MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 All these essays defending her for playing Asia dirty
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, cat1867 said: What part of shipping being more expensive and complicated than driving do you not understand. Taylor requires 90 trucks for her concert. Coldplay as a band just needs their instruments and pyrotechnics. They require significantly less amount of material to transport which makes their logistics easier and cheaper. Taylor is doing a ridiculous amount of dates. She isn't snubbing countries that stan her for no reason. Like I said she can do 2-3 dates in those countries, more than enough to cover the cost + she's touring in Singapore the middle of SEA why not extend to neighbouring countries? Travelling to Singapore and Japan are highly expensive for fans from other countries + people need to compete with local too
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said: All these essays defending her for playing Asia dirty What do you expect from privilege people
Kyle-x Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Can she even play You Need to Calm Down in some of these countries you say she needs to go to and cutting that would be unacceptable to her and her PR so
Holiest Dreams Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Coldplay have six dates in Singapore yet they are still touring Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines. Logistics isn't really an issue considering those countries are closed to each others. This has been explained to you like five times and you still refuse to budge... come on I get it, the situation sucks for the people in those countries, but it's bigger than just her alone. Sure, she cares about money, but promoters are involved and if there is money to be lost for them it will not work. I mean, she's going to some European countries that are less profitable when she could've just done more dates in less countries and made more money, but why is that? It's because the logistics for transportation are supportive enough for them not to lose money. She would do the same for Asia but things are simply complicated. If it makes you feel better to chalk it up to her being apparently racist or whatever, then you do you. But that's not the reason and the explanation is actually quite simple, again, as much as it sucks for those countries. Btw her production is incomparable to any other examples you are using to say "but they went so she could too" - well no, production/transportation/etc etc etc costs are not even in the same ballpark. Edited June 21, 2023 by Holiest Dreams
Toxicity. Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kyle-x said: Can she even play You Need to Calm Down in some of these countries you say she needs to go to and cutting that would be unacceptable to her and her PR so Malaysia and Indonesia would ban her
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said: This has been explained to you like five times and you still refuse to budge... come on I get it, the situation sucks for the people in those countries, but it's bigger than just her alone. Sure, she cares about money, but promoters are involved and if there is money to be lost for them it will not work. I mean, she's going to some European countries that are less profitable when she could've just done more dates in less countries and made more money, but why is that? It's because the logistics for transportation are supportive enough for them not to lose money. She would do the same for Asia but things are simply complicated. If it makes you feel better to chalk it up to her being apparently racist or whatever, then you do you. Things are not that complicated, she's just refuses to tour here. If she can go to Singapore, she's definitely can extend her tour to other countries. However, it's common knowledge that she always paying SEA dust. She's definitely not gonna lose money and so do the promoters due to insane demand. So what legit excuses are left right now?
Katy V.! Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Bonicap said: She should've done 30 dates there, 30 dates in LATAM (2M people in presale) and 300 dates in the US (14M people in presale). A bare minimum of 500 dates for the tour. Honestly I completely agree. Lowkey hoping for a 2nd US leg.
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Things are not that complicated, she's just refuses to tour here. If she can go to Singapore, she's definitely can extend her tour to other countries. However, it's common knowledge that she always paying SEA dust. She's definitely not gonna lose money and so do the promoters due to insane demand. So what legit excuses are left right now? Not these talks about losing money, as if UOB isn't paying her MILLIONS on MILLIONS to make the tour Singaporean exclusive (as seen in the leaked screenshot that turned out to be true). I got it we got paid dust during reputation given she's barely done 55 dates, but even now??? Come on, some of us cannot even go to Japan without a visa, and we don't even have cheap direct flights there.
Clauss Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cloröx said: Things are not that complicated, she's just refuses to tour here. If she can go to Singapore, she's definitely can extend her tour to other countries. However, it's common knowledge that she always paying SEA dust. She's definitely not gonna lose money and so do the promoters due to insane demand. So what legit excuses are left right now? Nobody here is a Taylor Swift representative. What do you gain arguing these things. Go speak about it on twitter, make noise on newspaper, music promotors etc. Also if she were to tour there, then you would be complaining about the high cost of the tickets.
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, MardinBeksloy said: Not these talks about losing money, as if UOB isn't paying her MILLIONS on MILLIONS to make the tour Singaporean exclusive (as seen in the leaked screenshot that turned out to be true). I got it we got paid dust during reputation given she's barely done 55 dates, but even now??? Come on, some of us cannot even go to Japan without a visa, and we don't even have cheap direct flights there. I don't buy any bullshi!t saying she or promoter will lose money. In another thread they are celebrating for her potential 1B gross tour with unprecedented demand but suddenly in this thread they sing different tune
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Clauss said: Nobody here is a Taylor Swift representative. What do you gain arguing these things. Go speak about it on twitter, make noise on newspaper, music promotors etc. Also if she were to tour there, then you would be complaining about the high cost of the tickets. Still cheaper than travelling to Singapore/Japan so
Taylor fanboy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Headlock said: What does that have to do with shipping a tour stage The cars thing to Belgium. She’ll obviously fly the team instead of renting multiple buses.
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Clauss said: Nobody here is a Taylor Swift representative. What do you gain arguing these things. Go speak about it on twitter, make noise on newspaper, music promotors etc. Also if she were to tour there, then you would be complaining about the high cost of the tickets. No, we do not? Blackpink tickets are more expensive than Taylor's and they sold out like hotcakes.
Taylor fanboy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 @enchanted0 did I read it correctly that Japanese credit card holders are only eligible for the lottery of the presale code?
Taylor fanboy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clauss said: Nobody here is a Taylor Swift representative. What do you gain arguing these things. Go speak about it on twitter, make noise on newspaper, music promotors etc. Also if she were to tour there, then you would be complaining about the high cost of the tickets. Damn us Asian music stans on a music forum if we vent out. OK!
Clauss Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, MardinBeksloy said: No, we do not? Blackpink tickets are more expensive than Taylor's and they sold out like hotcakes. So rich people got them, and in this case they would still be able to flight to JPN/SGP?
Cloröx Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Taylor fanboy said: Damn us Asian music stans on a music forum if we vent out. OK! ATRL is known for discrediting Asian our opinion, I thought they have changed but nope 1
Clauss Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 My country did not get dates. Even poorer neighborhoods cities got many dates (AR, BR). There is nothing I can do, and it just comes down to; as many have said before, logistics costs, venues sizes, high cost of production, high cost of tickets. It must be one of the most expensive tours of all time to bring to a city.
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cloröx said: ATRL is known for discrediting Asian our opinion, I thought they have changed but nope This. Imagine it's the reverse and it's the Europeans complaining
FolkLover1989 Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said: This. Imagine it's the reverse and it's the Europeans complaining Pls many EU still are Only one having right to complain are SEA ,Middle East(although she was never going there but still) and LatAm Edited June 21, 2023 by FolkLover1989
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, FolkLover1989 said: Pls many EU still are Only one having right to complain are SEA ,Middle East(although she was never going there but still) and LatAm honestly i wouldn't be so mad if it's like rep where she's barely tour many cities, but here we are, with 2 stadiums in France, 1 in a random West German city, and none in Indonesia/the Philippines, her biggest stans/streamers/hypers of her projects, it's maddening. It's not like we don't generate profits, BP earns millions in ticket sale in these countries and more from tour partners/sponsors.
Clauss Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, MardinBeksloy said: honestly i wouldn't be so mad if it's like rep where she's barely tour many cities, but here we are, with 2 stadiums in France, 1 in a random West German city, and none in Indonesia/the Philippines, her biggest stans/streamers/hypers of her projects, it's maddening. It's not like we don't generate profits, BP earns millions in ticket sale in these countries and more from tour partners/sponsors. That random German city that you mention, is in a German region of 18 million people and has a gdp per capita of more than 40k dolars though.
MardinBeksloy Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Clauss said: That random German city that you mention, is in a German region of 18 million people and has a gdp per capita of more than 40k dolars though. Yeah and Jakarta has a population of 10 millions with PPP GDP per cap of 62K, and they actually stream her music and new projects. 1
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