Jagger Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Communion said: This is serving QAnon. Misinformation is not *information that was medically accurate at the time it was said but changed as the virus unexpectedly mutated into more evasive variants*. Literally none of the quoted statements are false. It's hilarious to me how adamantly you preach against right wing conspiracies yet spend your entire terminally online existence pushing left wing conspiracies and propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) People not understanding that a novel virus and a novel vaccine both being moving targets concerning how they work and how we were literally gathering info while simultaneously trying to concoct a solution ASAP so that even more people don't die... ....seem to want to live in a reality where none of that happened and everyone had all the data and that there was a government that actively tried to stop the spread of the virus as opposed to, I don't know, a government trying to hide infection data, silencing scientists for sharing data, trying to start bidding wars for PPE, spreading misinformation, not ordering enough vaccines, not providing proper funding for PPE (because they were selling it to donors who then sold it through their own for-profit companies), refusing to assist in the transition of power by handing off, I don't know, information about what your covid strategy during a pandemic, provoking an insurrection. I mean, that's not even all of it. I don't get it, honestly. Had they not said anything, they'd be accused of doing nothing. The whole point of being transparent is you're providing info that's as accurate as it was at the time it was being said pending new data. Can someone explain to me what they should have said or not said and explain how your idea is better than what actually happened? The pretzel logic anti-vaxxers and anti-science folks in general is just mind numbingly draining. Yet, they can't wait to share a "scientific" article that supports their stance should they find one, even if it's just one out of 10,000 articles. Edited October 14, 2022 by Ibrahim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Jagger said: pushing left wing conspiracies Is this what yall in the anti-vaxx community are now calling science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 12 hours ago, PoisonPill said: So, that's not literally the exact same. In fact, it's not comparable at all. "I believe in getting vaccinated" is a completely separate thought than "I believe there was irresponsible misinformation about the vaccine." Some starting is a sentence with "I'm not homophobic, but", and then saying something homophobic, is directly comparable to you starting a sentence with "I'm pro-vaccine, but", and then using anti-vaxx talking points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Communion said: Is this what yall in the anti-vaxx community are now calling science? I mean, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theshigo Washidu Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 20 hours ago, flower moon said: Except I didn't type that and you're not nearly dense enough to misconstrue what I posted. And you're a bloody racist on a forum. Your post came off as micro-aggressive towards a Sri Lankan woman sharing her opinion, however controversial it may be. GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettsleazy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Ibrahim said: People not understanding that a novel virus and a novel vaccine both being moving targets concerning how they work and how we were literally gathering info while simultaneously trying to concoct a solution ASAP so that even more people don't die... ....seem to want to live in a reality where none of that happened and everyone had all the data and that there was a government that actively tried to stop the spread of the virus as opposed to, I don't know, a government trying to hide infection data, silencing scientists for sharing data, trying to start bidding wars for PPE, spreading misinformation, not ordering enough vaccines, not providing proper funding for PPE (because they were selling it to donors who then sold it through their own for-profit companies), refusing to assist in the transition of power by handing off, I don't know, information about what your covid strategy during a pandemic, provoking an insurrection. I mean, that's not even all of it. I don't get it, honestly. Had they not said anything, they'd be accused of doing nothing. The whole point of being transparent is you're providing info that's as accurate as it was at the time it was being said pending new data. Can someone explain to me what they should have said or not said and explain how your idea is better than what actually happened? The pretzel logic anti-vaxxers and anti-science folks in general is just mind numbingly draining. Yet, they can't wait to share a "scientific" article that supports their stance should they find one, even if it's just one out of 10,000 articles. The way this is the most rational response to this issue and it will be completely overlooked because people lack nuance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountain Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 It’s a good thing her new music is literal garbage. Her brain fried, sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, St. Francis said: And you're a bloody racist on a forum. Your post came off as micro-aggressive towards a Sri Lankan woman sharing her opinion, however controversial it may be. GTFO. oh please. all I implied was that she needed to to take a break off the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockStarShit101 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Communion said: Is this what yall in the anti-vaxx community are now calling science? they are acting like only the left in the USA follow the science. do they know there are other people who live outside their country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theshigo Washidu Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 22 hours ago, flower moon said: oh please. all I implied was that she needed to to take a break off the internet Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilheiress Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 1:35 AM, Communion said: It's funny cause I've always been hesitant about her politics becoming reactionary since her view of the world always felt childish even when right (the way she rhymed Obama, Osama and Monsanto farmer and thought she ate ) but felt that mainstream politics vilified her for things she was on the right side of (ex: Wikileaks and Julian Assange). And this tweet brought up those sympathetic feelings: And my eyes were going the list like, "yup, yup, yup, yup, mhmm". ...until I got to "take world from klaus" and my eyes rolled so far back into head. Of course she's found her ass in the midst of "GREAT RESET!!!" nonsense about COVID. It really does ring true - anyone who fashions themselves progressive but who doesn't root their understanding of their world in socialism and dialectics is always going to fall for this conspiracy bullshit. It's not global elites or cabals of satan worshippers. It's capitalism, stupid! I'm a bit late reacting to this tweet but THIS, PERIOD. Anyways, as I said earlier, she has always been an edgelord marketing herself towards certain demographics, specifically one that shall remain nameless, just look at how she's always been hyper focused on a certain conflict while there are so many others out there going unoticed (I mean has she ever addressed the Armenian plight?) zzzzzz and yall can call this whataboutism all the f u want Edited October 15, 2022 by oilheiress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I agree with her 100%. Speaking as someone who’s fully vaccinated (2 doses of Pfizer), I can confidently say I REGRET EVER TAKING THE VACCINE, IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. IF I HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN A SINGLE DOSE. Edited October 15, 2022 by Zoomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamil24 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zoomer said: I agree with her 100%. Speaking as someone who’s fully vaccinated (2 doses of Pfizer), I can confidently say I REGRET EVER TAKING THE VACCINE, IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. IF I HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN A SINGLE DOSE. same except my 2 were Moderna Edited October 16, 2022 by Kamil24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamil24 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) double post Edited October 16, 2022 by Kamil24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RCH1M3D35 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I fear the next global bug is going to wipe us all out. Human beings are getting stupider by the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Zoomer said: I agree with her 100%. Speaking as someone who’s fully vaccinated (2 doses of Pfizer), I can confidently say I REGRET EVER TAKING THE VACCINE, IT WAS NOT WORTH IT. IF I HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN A SINGLE DOSE. 28 minutes ago, Kamil24 said: same except my 2 were Moderna Pray tell, what exactly about it do you regret? In what way has it impacted your life that is regrettable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Domination said: Pray tell, what exactly about it do you regret? In what way has it impacted your life that is regrettable? 1) It didn’t provide any immunity to get the disease nor did it prevent spread. 2) I had a fever the same evening I had my second dose. 3) I regret injecting something in my body that didn’t go through a proper clinical trial, I worry about the long-term effects of a rushed vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zoomer said: 1) It didn’t provide any immunity to get the disease nor did it prevent spread. 2) I had a fever the same evening I had my second dose. 3) I regret injecting something in my body that didn’t go through a proper clinical trial, I worry about the long-term effects of a rushed vaccine. 1) It did. Factually. 2) Okay? That’s typically what happens when you get a vaccine. You were better the next day so who gives a ****. 3. It was not “rushed”. The vaccine had a ridiculous amount of funding which is why it rolled out so quickly but the fundamental technology behind it has existed since the AIDS crisis so…what? It’s not in your system anymore baby girl so what’s with the lament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Zoomer said: 1) It didn’t provide any immunity to get the disease nor did it prevent spread. 2) I had a fever the same evening I had my second dose. 3) I regret injecting something in my body that didn’t go through a proper clinical trial, I worry about the long-term effects of a rushed vaccine. 1. Can you prove that? 2. A fever? Almost like your immune system was triggered into doing its job or something 3. You're clueless on this matter (as Domination points out) and should be more concerned about the long term effects of being infected by disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qurl Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 just let people be stupid and allow nature to take care of the rest …… can’t wait till a lot of y’all die off (from stupidity) tbh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoomer Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Domination said: 1) It did. Factually. 2) Okay? That’s typically what happens when you get a vaccine. You were better the next day so who gives a ****. 3. It was not “rushed”. The vaccine had a ridiculous amount of funding which is why it rolled out so quickly but the fundamental technology behind it has existed since the AIDS crisis so…what? It’s not in your system anymore baby girl so what’s with the lament. 1) It factually didn’t. It just mitigated the severity of the virus. It was still contagious and it didn’t provide immunity. 2) I give a **** because getting the virus would’ve been as severe, and at least my immune-system would’ve gotten legit immunity, instead of redosing on a rushed vaccine. 3) It’s unprecedented, vaccines usually take 10-15 years to make, you wanna tell me that because of “funding” they managed to get it out in 9 months? Lol, I doubt even you believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower moon Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Zoomer said: 1) It factually didn’t. It just mitigated the severity of the virus. It was still contagious and it didn’t provide immunity. 2) I give a **** because getting the virus would’ve been as severe, and at least my immune-system would’ve gotten legit immunity, instead of redosing on a rushed vaccine. 3) It’s unprecedented, vaccines usually take 10-15 years to make, you wanna tell me that because of “funding” they managed to get it out in 9 months? Lol, I doubt even you believe that. Vaccines aren't cures. They teach your body how to deal with the disease. It was unprecedented. True. Just like the scale of the pandemic. SARS is not new to science, and so wouldn't need 10 to 15 years anyway. Global funding allowed for firms to run multiple trials in parallel which obviously sped things up enormously. And literally 10's of thousands participated in the trails before they were distributed tot he public. But I guess uneducated anti-vaxxers have made your mind up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letemtalk Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Is she trying to get a collab with Kanye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankle Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Letemtalk said: Is she trying to get a collab with Kanye? They've always kinda been two sides of the same coin tbh Albeit MIA is usually way less off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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