Liafen Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) On 2/20/2023 at 4:26 PM, Braz said: and I oop- she could add one in Sydney easily without logitstical nightmares. start the tour early Bethany Melbourne im afraid doesn't fit. she's not doing 3 shows in 3 days and 26th would be too late to pack all it up and do Adelaide next day Edited February 22, 2023 by Liafen
pinktennisfreak Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 She may come to AUS in 2025. Wouldn't be surprised.
Liafen Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Summer Carnival USA+CAN (chronologically backwars) Yeah LA is doing so much better, many seats still but not as horrid as a couple weeks before. Las Vegas is close to selling out. They have a couple sections in Phoenix untouched (have they just opened these?), and the floor has a couple hundred tickets but its looking amazing apart from those. San Diego has a few left, will sell out easily. Arlington is taking shape woohoo! Lots of resale though but these are gone so don't care about them. Lord, Houston is still a mess. They need to do something about this one. San Antonio still looking awful as well. Thousands of tickets in each section... Nahville, however, has only a couple left! It will sell out soon. This date was never a problem, really. Philly night 2, welp, maybe they were wrong announcing this? Thousands still left to be sold. Not as bad as the texan dates though, she only has the floor level seats left but they're almost entirely untouched + a couple thousand in the 100s. Philly night 1 has a couple here and there. Omaha is looking good, only the floor needs to be sold out. 30% unsold there perhaps. Fargo is such a small venue. Its practically gone. Detroit has a couple hundred left, mainly congregated in the worst seating sections that won't see the stage fully. (weird that they're selling those whereas in Philly, there are unopened sections that wouldn't have that big of a problem with the obstructed view.) Milwaukee has a few thousand left on the floor. Won't be a problem though. Chicago is technically gone. Couple tix going for 400-800 usd Minneapolis has a couple hundred on the floor. DC is looking great, has maybe a couple thousand overall, spread out in 2 sections + the floor. Pittsburgh has the same couple hundred on the floor problem. New York - same. Couple hundred on the floor. Boston doesn't let you to view the seating in particular detail, but clicking through each section I'm only seeing resale tickets listed in the high hundreds or even thousands. And a couple platinum ones for the same price. Bot nights. Cincinnati only has a few left on the floor and a couple here and there in the upper sections. Toronto is gone, has a couple plat tix. What I'm seeing in the US is that people want to go to her shows but they most likely found the floor ones horribly overpriced. Lots of dates have a couple houndred or even thousand tickets in the floor section. These are I would say normally the first to go since they're the prime spots. But the GP seems to lack the enthusiasm to shell out this much amount of money for a Pink show yet. Lower-priced ones are usually gone. The critical dates are Houston, Arlington, San Antonio. They really need to do something. Summer Carnival EU (in chronological order) Bolton Night 1 only has a couple platinum left, all going for more than 250-300GBP Same for Bolton Night 2, little bit of resale and 1 platinum ticket. Sunderland Night 1 is gone, only resale tixs for 377 GBP lmao. And platinum for 300, plus a few 135gbp nosebleeds (less than 20 tix overall) Sunderland Night 2 has gold standing, GA resale standing. And a couple houndred nosebleeds. Birmingham has less than 30 tickets, all platinum above 350GBP London Hyde Park - no seat map obvs, first night has limited, second has low availability. For example, Birmingham has low availability as well so it could mean there are less than <1% of tickets left. Paris Night 1 and 2 were sold out immediately. I keep checking these because I want to go to Paris and the tickets were cheaper but no luck at all. She should add 2 more dates here at least. She could do one on the 22th if the venue is available and that would allow her to rest as well as her team to get the setup elsewhere. Berlin is a mess woo lordt. Not as bad as the texan dates in the US but she really does have to do some heavy ticket-lifting here. Vienna has a couple thousand seating and Golden/Diamond Circle as well. Its weird since she sold out the latter so they must've added more. Vienna Night 2 is the same, maybe a couple thousand more seating. München Night one has one large bloc of tix to shift. And regular GA. Won't be a problem though. Maybe a couple thousand left from the 60-70k München Night 2 has maybe 3x the tickets available in the seating area as the first night plus GA. Still looking amazing, I assume its about 85% gone Köln night 1 literally has ONE seat left for 334 EUR. At this point she should just buy it and invite a hobo. Köln night 2 has maybe twenty of the same type. Hobo party it is! Hannover night 1 has probably the most tickets available after perhaps Berlin? Not as tragic, won't be a problem but all types of GA are still available as well. Hannover night 2, nvm this is the most tickets left after Berlin. Doesn't look horrible but she still needs a lot of tickets to sell here. Warsaw, while still has lots of tickets + GA, is not critical at all. Especially since during BT tour this one was the most concerning apart from Berlin and Gelsenkirchen. She really improved her reputation with her last tour here I guess. What my takeaway from the EU is that her team perhaps was a bit overly ambitious adding follow-up nights for some of the dates. Especially Hannover, and maybe München. She will sell these out I think but her efforts should've gone elsewhere (maybe doing Stade de France twice instead of La Défénse Arena in Paris; and maybe booking Wembley twice instead of Hyde Park; plus adding some more dates in the UK and Scandinavia). They're most likely going this route to save on overhead costs and it'll probably pay off for them in the long run though, and she'll most likely do a few arena shows in 2024 in the areas she skipped + a few ones there's enough demand. Summer Carnival AUS/NZ Sydney site won't let me in. Sold out most likely x2. Newcastle only has platinum Golden Circle left. Brisbane again won't let me in. Perhaps because of an EU IP ban. Sold out most likely x2. Gold Coast is gone. Melbourne sold out x2. Perth night one (they added a second one??) has a couple hundred scattered across the seat map. Perth night two has a couple thousand but looks awesome. Plus standing areas. Dunedin has a couple thousand, mostly in restricted view/nosebleeds plus regular GA. Auckland night one has a couple thousand mostly in nosebleeds plus regular GA. Auckland night two has a couple hundred in a few sections. All of them are going for well above 400 dollars. Takeaway: they probably underplanned this, but not by much. Most likely she'd sell out another date, each in Sydney and Melbourne almost immediately. Former doable, latter most likely not due to scheduling/logistics. These dates are literally a year away so she most probably wouldn't have a problem selling out another one in each city, with Sydney-Melbourne four dates overall. --- Whew, that was a lot of seatmap clicking. I'll do a rundown on Trustfall Tour once it goes into general sale.
Liafen Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 Shouldve done a smaller stadium probably instead of duplicating those dates.
Pinksus Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Las Vegas is close to selling out. This one will be huge! Expecting her biggest single date gross ever 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Arlington is taking shape woohoo I didn't understood what happened here but hope it will happen to Houston and San Antonio as well 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Nahville, however, has only a couple left! It will sell out soon. This date was never a problem, really. This date sold out so easily! I didn't expect this love from Nashville. The country collabs paid off I guess? 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Philly night 2, welp, maybe they were wrong announcing this? I don't think so. Her most passionate fans already buyed the first night so this one depends on the casual admirers and they have months to buy it. I'm expecting the biggest boxscore from North America leg from Philly 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Detroit has a couple hundred left, Another huge boxscore to expect! Now that they released the limited vision sections I can Dream about a 50,000+ boxscore 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Boston doesn't let you to view the seating in particular detail, There's only isolated tickets available, another huge one Coming 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Toronto is gone, has a couple plat tix. Still mad that she didn't booked a extra date
Pinksus Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Vienna has a couple thousand seating and Golden/Diamond Circle as well. Its weird since she sold out the latter so they must've added more Are you sure? To me only the 07/02 date is available. I can't even open the 07/01 due to the sold out status 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Warsaw I think they just hided a lot of seats Praying for the some rollout of the Beautiful Trauma date
Pinksus Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 I'm so pissed off by the logistic of this tour Who the hell thought would be a good Idea book more dates in ***** Texas than Toronto, Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney?
Braz Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Shouldve done a smaller stadium probably instead of duplicating those dates. The demand is here.
Liafen Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Pinksus said: This one will be huge! Expecting her biggest single date gross ever I didn't understood what happened here but hope it will happen to Houston and San Antonio as well This date sold out so easily! I didn't expect this love from Nashville. The country collabs paid off I guess? I don't think so. Her most passionate fans already buyed the first night so this one depends on the casual admirers and they have months to buy it. I'm expecting the biggest boxscore from North America leg from Philly Another huge boxscore to expect! Now that they released the limited vision sections I can Dream about a 50,000+ boxscore There's only isolated tickets available, another huge one Coming Still mad that she didn't booked a extra date 2 hours ago, Pinksus said: Are you sure? To me only the 07/02 date is available. I can't even open the 07/01 due to the sold out status I think they just hided a lot of seats Praying for the some rollout of the Beautiful Trauma date Nashville: Definitely lots of goodwill from years of country collabs, CMA appearances and such. It's no surprise really they love her there. I'm guessing that was the reason they expected the Texan dates to go so easily aswell; but three of them was a biT much and her political comments didn't help either I guess. Vienna: Yeah honestly don't know what happened lol. Checked it twice and both dates were available to me. Now it won't let me in either. Philly: Yeah, won't be a problem I think, it will sell out eventually. This and Boston will be the biggest double night boxscores, and I think Allegiant will be the biggest single date. Warsaw: No, I don't think so. They were probably all open & doesn't really make sense to have them closed down row by row. The sections that are not available at all were gone I think in the first rounds. They're usually the same price category of the ones further from stage but offer a significantly better experience, so those are usually the first to go. 2 hours ago, Braz said: The demand is here. Yes! Our girlie becoming a massive touring force in the States as well. Her overall boxscore for the year will only be second to Taylor's. She's doing 52 stadiums in total, Pink is doing 22 (usually smaller) stadiums and 21 arena dates. --- They're doing a prize draw for the german dates. All you have to do is enter your mail, answer a question and win tickets + travel to Berlin, or a signed Trustfall CD, or AIKSF CD, or a bandana, or a lanyard. From what I gathered they're only giving out two tickets to Berlin so this won't save the tragic state of the date, but at least it's some form of promotion I guess - and maybe those who miss out will buy tix eventually. The only other promotion I've seen so far is in Austria they've had a 10% price reduction before Christmas. --- I've yet to purchase mine. I'll probably try out for press tickets in Vienna, Paris, London and Warsaw. But at this point Bethané should just hand me a honorary ticket. Alecia, if you're reading this, I swear I won't drag you anymore.
Underdogs Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Liafen said: I'm guessing that was the reason they expected the Texan dates to go so easily aswell; but three of them was a biT much and her political comments didn't help either I guess. The “don’t ever listen to my music” and Pfizer endorsement has done more damage than we realize. She’s been genuinely boycotted by a lot of people
pokerfaceboy Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Underdogs said: The “don’t ever listen to my music” and Pfizer endorsement has done more damage than we realize. She’s been genuinely boycotted by a lot of people and they can stay away and go see Jason Aldean. She doesn't care about alienating "fans" and that's great tbh.
Liafen Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Underdogs said: The “don’t ever listen to my music” and Pfizer endorsement has done more damage than we realize. She’s been genuinely boycotted by a lot of people Yeah, probably. But I'd rather her speak her mind than have a better gross in the Bible Belt. It's just silly trying to milk this region considering this circumstance + the fact that it is her first stadium run in the US. (I know you share the same opinions)
Braz Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 It hurt her but I'm glad she dragged them and even put Irrelevant out. She wouldn't be a Pop force with this audience regardless.
Arknex Posted February 23, 2023 Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Braz said: It's so weird seeing her being this sensitive about it. At the end of the day she's just a human and I appreciate that she's showing her vulnerable side. But where did her ambitions go... Where's P!nk who don't give a f about what people think about her.. Out of all artists SHE is the one who shouldn't be afraid of getting a bad reaction to a performance. Her just standing there and singing live already would be a SHOW! I hope someone in her team will convince her to do it and one day she'll reconsider. She should dare herself to do a show of her life there
Liafen Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Trustfall Tour just went on general sale! A quick rundown on the dates: Sacramento: More than 90% sold out already, there are maybe a couple hundred left. San Francisco: Only restricted view seats are left San Francisco Night 2: about 10 percent sold or maybe even less Tacoma: Lots of floor seats but i'd say its about 80% gone or more Tacoma Night 2: Not as bad as SF2, but lots of seats. About 40% gone Vancouver: almost all gone, restricted view available Vancouver Night 2: Wow! The floor is mostly available and restricted view but other than that this is doing really well, more than 80% gone Denver: restricted view, besides that almost all gone Kansas: doing good, there are a few thousand left still Kansas Night 2: a few more thousand, maybe past 50% Montreal: Couple hundred left, mostly restricted Montreal Night 2: This has a few thousand left, mostly sold out NYC: almost all gone NYC Night 2: a few thousand available but way past 60% Indianapolis: a couple hundred left Cleveland: doesn't let you to view the seatmap, I've only found resale though Louisville: Yeah this is pretty empty still, about 20% gone Charlotte: almost all gone Miami: mostly restricted view available, plus a couple houndred here and there but apart from those mostly gone Orlando: almost all gone Orlando night 2: Yeah they need to do some heavy lifting here, but not as bad as SF NIght 2, maybe 40-50%ish So all in all, an arena leg was a smart move. The entire Trustfall Tour is more than 80% gone I'd say. The tricky ones will be Louisville and some second nights, especially San Francisco. Other than that, it's really strange to see so many resale tickets - they for sure seem sketchy at some dates. Scalpers/Ticketmaster can ROT.
Liafen Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Oh and they probably should've done a few more dates in Canada. The demand there is insane. Even the second nights in both Vancouver and Montreal look amazing.
Pinksus Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, Liafen said: Oh and they probably should've done a few more dates in Canada. The demand there is insane. Even the second nights in both Vancouver and Montreal look amazing. Not Second date in Toronto No stadiums for Vancouver and Winnipeg Oh Beth...
Liafen Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pinksus said: Not Second date in Toronto No stadiums for Vancouver and Winnipeg Oh Beth... Yeah, she should've probably done Montréal as a SC stadium date. And another Toronto one. She has incredible touring demand this time. Her end of year total grosses for SC+Trustfall will be INSANE. 17 EU stadium shows will be reported, at this point $5M seems to be a conservative guess - $85M 23 USA stadium shows will be reported, counting on a $4M average (lots of smaller venues than in EU) - $92M 21 USA arena shows will be reported, $2M plus average is safe to bet on - $42M That's $219M and the AUS/NZ dates are still upcoming. That's another $5M per show across 14 shows, +70M so $289 mil with a conservative guess. Upper bound is around 340M. $6M avg for EU+AUS/NZ; 4.5M+2.5M for USA Stadiums/Arenas. If only she did Wembley twice instead of Hyde Park (+18M instead of 0M reported), Stade de France twice (double the est. gross of 9M of La Défénse), Sweden/Oslo/Denmark and such. Could've grossed another 50M.
Pinksus Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Yeah, she should've probably done Montréal as a SC stadium date. And another Toronto one I get really upset because clearly her team treats Canada as a extention of US and not as a independent country with its own peculiarities. She's so big there and yet receive this subpar treatment Thank God Australia isn't from North America or they would book one stadium date in Melbourne + 2 arenas in Sydney and call It a day
Braz Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Canada even streams her and Beth disrespects them like that.
Underdogs Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 The TRUSTFALL Tour will for sure sell out with minimum fuss.
DR0GO Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 What’s the difference between the two tours? Smaller venues? Trying to figure out which one to buy tickets for.
Mellark Posted February 26, 2023 Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/22/2023 at 5:43 AM, Liafen said: Yeah LA is doing so much better, many seats still but not as horrid as a couple weeks before I was watching TV (I think it was one of the main four - ABC I think), and I saw an ad for the SoFi show, so I guess the marketing is working. People would still see her and get a ticket last minute because she still has that nostalgia factor, especially the LA show will be star-studded with her friends in the industry. I want to go to this, I never seen her live but I'm going to wait a bit. Quote Köln night 1 literally has ONE seat left for 334 EUR. At this point she should just buy it and invite a hobo. I noticed she is popular more outside of the U.S. for some reason. I think she will sell out/almost sell out the major cities, but some cities need major pick-ups or she might just cancel.
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