Underdogs Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Pinksus said: The pre-sale is selling pretty slow It was expected tho Slow is an understatement
pinktennisfreak Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 She'll be fine. She wins long-term and that's just who she is. I feel we're seeing Taylor or Beyonce and immediately think that's gonna be the case for her. And it's been less than 24 hours. Relax. 1
Underdogs Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Beth, girlie… we need a hit! or a Super Bowl Girlie is on a $600 million grossing tour but can't pay for a TTH placement... 1
Liafen Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Underdogs said: Girlie is on a $600 million grossing tour but can't pay for a TTH placement... Willow’s theatre program must be really expensive! 3
Hiphopper Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Liafen said: Willow’s theatre program must be really expensive! It must be, she can't even afford a haircut for Jamo.
Pinksus Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 The pollstar year end was our best shot for a hit portrayal of her year cause they put all the data together regardless of the tour moniker. We could see she hit the 300m mark with Summer + Trustfall And what her team did? Hided Europe's stadiums and just send 11 Trustfall shows Expectations: $300m+ Reality: $231m from 44 concerts with They managed to make her tour looks WORSE than if they just reported Summer Carnival itself 1
Pinksus Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 https://news.pollstar.com/2023/12/08/taylor-swift-sets-all-time-touring-record-with-billion-dollar-gross/
Liafen Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 Horrible: St Louis Chicago (not that bad as the others, but still 85%) San Diego Las Vegas Los Angeles NYC Indianapolis Orlando Miami Philly (maybe the best of the lot, but still not good) Halfway through: Boston Hershey Tulsa (Trustfall date, between horrible and halway through tho) Great: Toronto Arlington (nearing sellout, rescheduled SC date) Edmonton (almost sold out) Syracuse (almost sold out) Tacoma Night 1 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Tacoma Night 2 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Vancouver Night 1 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Vancouver Night 2 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Missoula won't load for me. There's literally no point in a pre-sale. People not having access to the code but wanting to purchase tickets will be my copium for now!
Liafen Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pinksus said: The pollstar year end was our best shot for a hit portrayal of her year cause they put all the data together regardless of the tour moniker. We could see she hit the 300m mark with Summer + Trustfall And what her team did? Hided Europe's stadiums and just send 11 Trustfall shows Expectations: $300m+ Reality: $231m from 44 concerts with They managed to make her tour looks WORSE than if they just reported Summer Carnival itself I swear they MUST be doing it on purpose to gaslight her ass or something. Nobody can be that dumb. NOBODY. At this point I am convinced even I could do a better job than them. Edited December 8, 2023 by Liafen 1
Pinksus Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Liafen said: I swear they MUST be doing it on purpose to gaslight her ass or something. Nobody can be that dumb. NOBODY. At this point I am convinced even I could do a better job than them. Well, RCA already does this with her discography and singles I guess Live Nation is joining too 1
Liafen Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, pinktennisfreak said: She'll be fine. She wins long-term and that's just who she is. I feel we're seeing Taylor or Beyonce and immediately think that's gonna be the case for her. And it's been less than 24 hours. Relax. Well, the next two weeks will be critical. Concert tickets in general and her shows as well are frontloaded. As per Touringdata, she sold 80% of tickets in a couple days for this years' leg. 87.75% by Jan 1st, 88.16% by Feb 16th, 93% by Apr 10th. 95.7% by Jun 1st.
Gabriel Guedes Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Liafen said: Horrible: St Louis Chicago (not that bad as the others, but still 85%) San Diego Las Vegas Los Angeles NYC Indianapolis Orlando Miami Philly (maybe the best of the lot, but still not good) Halfway through: Boston Hershey Tulsa (Trustfall date, between horrible and halway through tho) Great: Toronto Arlington (nearing sellout, rescheduled SC date) Edmonton (almost sold out) Syracuse (almost sold out) Tacoma Night 1 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Tacoma Night 2 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Vancouver Night 1 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Vancouver Night 2 (Trustfall date, almost sold out) Missoula won't load for me. There's literally no point in a pre-sale. People not having access to the code but wanting to purchase tickets will be my copium for now! This is from presale or has the regular sale started yet?
Liafen Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, Gabriel Guedes said: This is from presale or has the regular sale started yet? Presale.
BrokenMachine Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Pinksus said: The pollstar year end was our best shot for a hit portrayal of her year cause they put all the data together regardless of the tour moniker. We could see she hit the 300m mark with Summer + Trustfall And what her team did? Hided Europe's stadiums and just send 11 Trustfall shows Expectations: $300m+ Reality: $231m from 44 concerts with They managed to make her tour looks WORSE than if they just reported Summer Carnival itself I don't get what's going on. I thought they didn't report the Trustfall dates and that's why it only appears 44 reported and not the 61 she did... but you're telling me they just messed it up and didn't report 15 dates for BOTH tours ?? Edited December 9, 2023 by BrokenMachine
livelikemusic Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Liafen said: Halfway through: Boston NOOOOOO
Pinksus Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 9 hours ago, BrokenMachine said: I don't get what's going on. I thought they didn't report the Trustfall dates and that's why it only appears 44 reported and not the 61 she did... but you're telling me they just messed it up and didn't report 15 dates for BOTH tours ?? Yep They released the Year End from North America as well. It was reported 33 concerts for her (she did 22 for Summer Carnival and 18 for Trustfall). So if she has 33 North America concerts from 44 total dates, only 11 dates from Europe were counted by pollstar It's already stated by Billboard she grossed $236,7m from the 39 SC dates (257,6M if we count BST) So basically All of her data from 2023: around 305m (59 shows) All her data without London: 285m (57 shows) Summer Carnival alone without London: 236m (39 shows) This crap they send to pollstar: 231m (44 shows) 2
Braz Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Soon she wont even be able to tour anymore cause her buzz is negative and there isn't a single person on her team that knows what they're doing...
Underdogs Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, livelikemusic said: NOOOOOO Don't worry, you'll be able to get any type of tickets you want easily
Underdogs Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Pinksus said: Yep They released the Year End from North America as well. It was reported 33 concerts for her (she did 22 for Summer Carnival and 18 for Trustfall). So if she has 33 North America concerts from 44 total dates, only 11 dates from Europe were counted by pollstar It's already stated by Billboard she grossed $236,7m from the 39 SC dates (257,6M if we count BST) So basically All of her data from 2023: around 305m (59 shows) All her data without London: 285m (57 shows) Summer Carnival alone without London: 236m (39 shows) This crap they send to pollstar: 231m (44 shows) The European dates from the first leg will never get reported, i fear. At best, we'll get a final total gross of the tour when it ends.
Underdogs Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 Also, I'm kinda surprised that there's no date in Nashville unless i missed it. Geodis Park was one of the fastest selling shows in the first leg
Gabriel Guedes Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Underdogs said: The European dates from the first leg will never get reported, i fear. At best, we'll get a final total gross of the tour when it ends. My hope is that this mess they're doing now won't reflect on the final number when it's all set and done, because with Taylor not reporting her numbers, Summer Carnival will be the biggest female tour ever.
Underdogs Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gabriel Guedes said: My hope is that this mess they're doing now won't reflect on the final number when it's all set and done, because with Taylor not reporting her numbers, Summer Carnival will be the biggest female tour ever. It will be close between Summer Carnival and Renaissance Tour. If P!nk hadn't toured arenas under a different moniker then she would've gotten it safely
Liafen Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 The way she, we could’ve had that stoopid record for an uniterrupted 4 years and again possibly for more (if Tay doesn’t report) if it weren’t for her incompetent team
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