discussion Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan clash at border; 24 dead

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BISHKEK, Sept 16 (Reuters) - Kyrgyzstan reported "intense battles" with Central Asian neighbour Tajikistan on Friday and said 24 people had been killed in the latest outbreak of violence to hit the former Soviet Union.

Both of the small impoverished landlocked nations have accused each other of restarting fighting in a disputed area, despite a ceasefire deal.

In a statement, the Kyrgyz border service said its forces were continuing to repel Tajik attacks...

Kamchybek Tashiev, the head of the Kyrgyz state committee on national security, was quoted by Russia's RIA news agency as saying military casualties had been high...

The Kyrgyz ministry of emergency situations said more than 136,000 civilians had been evacuated from the conflict zone, Interfax said...

Central Asian border issues largely stem from the Soviet era when Moscow tried to divide the region between groups whose settlements were often located amidst those of other ethnicities.

Both countries host Russian military bases. Earlier on Friday, Moscow urged a cessation of hostilities.

 

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Central Asia has tagged in. After the mollywhopping Russia received at the hands of Ukrainian forces this week, it seems Russia's low budget equivalent to NATO has fallen apart. What's next for the former superpower turned decaying gas station of the world?

Edited September 17, 2022 by ZIVERT

[Bloodflowers.]

First Azerbaijan with Armenia the other day and now this, can they not? People don't want wars and terrors!

[flower moon]

that part of the world is a mess right now

[AlanRickman1946]

Since the very beginning, there has been much suspicion and speculation about foreign forces getting involved, or even manipulating behind the scenes. The presence and influence of Western countries and foreign nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) in Kazakhstan might give some clues. 

For a long time, the looming shadow of the US has been cast in every corner of Kazakhstan. It is by no means a coincidence that the US seemed to have predicted the situation unfolding and escalating. Half a month before the riots broke out, the US Embassy in Kazakhstan warned that demonstrations in Nur-Sultan and Almaty could escalate into violence. A batch of NGOs sponsored by the US, smelling a storm, swiftly retreated from the country.

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There was some unrest in Kazakhstan earlier this year. China accused The West of meddling and they soon stopped the protestors. I think China and Russia have treated Central Asia really badly but you can't deny that China has a tight grip on Central Asia

As Dita Dolla says She's winning again... somehow she always stays here. I can't stand it"

 

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5 hours ago, AlanRickman1946 said:

Since the very beginning, there has been much suspicion and speculation about foreign forces getting involved, or even manipulating behind the scenes. The presence and influence of Western countries and foreign nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) in Kazakhstan might give some clues. 

For a long time, the looming shadow of the US has been cast in every corner of Kazakhstan. It is by no means a coincidence that the US seemed to have predicted the situation unfolding and escalating. Half a month before the riots broke out, the US Embassy in Kazakhstan warned that demonstrations in Nur-Sultan and Almaty could escalate into violence. A batch of NGOs sponsored by the US, smelling a storm, swiftly retreated from the country.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202201/1245830.shtml
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There was some unrest in Kazakhstan earlier this year. China accused The West of meddling and they soon stopped the protestors. I think China and Russia have treated Central Asia really badly but you can't deny that China has a tight grip on Central Asia

As Dita Dolla says She's winning again... somehow she always stays here. I can't stand it"

 

The protests kicked off in Kazakhstan because the new(er) president dismissed the government, which was filled to the brim with Nazarbayev loyalists, not because of Western intervention  people in Kazakhstan were genuinely upset about rising fuel prices and the Nazarbayev faction took advantage of that.

 

I’m sure China will try their hand at dominating Central Asia, but Kazakhs are very proudly NOT Chinese (like many Central Asian nations), and are proud of their Turkic roots. Also, after the invasion of Ukraine, Kazakhstan is positioning itself to have closer ties with the West for the first time since the collapse of the USSR.

[Eóghan]

On 9/17/2022 at 4:42 AM, flower moon said:

that part of the world is a mess right now

Yeah but not really, there's one country that nobody talks about which is thriving economically at the moment and is also the most populous after Russia and Ukraine. That country being Uzbekistan. 

It's also the only country in ex-soviet union with a fast growing population and is doing better democratically than the others, it's goin in the right direction let's just say.