discussion Swedish elections: Far-right neo-nazi party now 2nd biggest in parliament

[Headlock]

7 minutes ago, Nano said:

God. I can only imagine the mental gymnastics it must take to infer "Aryan racial purity" from what @Corso said.

Ah yes, the mental gymnastics to infer Neo-Nazis in Sweden wanting white racial purity from… *checks notes* stopping immigration of non-white people to a majority white country? The leap!

 

 

2 minutes ago, Nano said:

I knew you were gonna say that But the Romani are not even close to being similar to the current Muslim immigrants. The Romani were already European for centuries.

Not you playing semantics over persecuted brown people

 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Nano said:

Literally not even. Jews were not recent immigrants in Europe, they were regular citizens. And the vast majority were secular.

This is so brazenly historically inaccurate that it comes off as illiterate at best and disinformation at worst. The entire propaganda of Nazism was to frame Judaism as both a cultural and racial parasitic force at odds with Western culture. Judeo-Bolshevism literally argued that Jews were at odds with Wesrern society and sought to infiltrate it and dismantle it from within. The article in the OP literally details how members of the SD party were attending rallies within the past year about stopping Jewish Global elites from controlling the world banks. The idea that Muslims are being funneled into your pretty little homogenized ethno-states to destroy "the Western way of life" is so riddled in nazism that it literally takes one skip and a hop to find these very same people claiming Muslim refugees from war torn countries are actually being shipped out and paid for by Jewish elites to "replace European people as a people".

[Communion]

2 hours ago, liver said:

this  gotta love the American libs 

I feel like I've been transported back into 2016 ATRL and I'm seeing reactionary fascists make the same.tired argument of "I don't have to hate other races to think Sweden is for Swedish people and those people's countries are for them".

 

You can't be offended by comparisons to nazis but histprically run on slogans like "Keep Sweden Swedish" or have historical policies like about denying the right to vote from people who aren't ethnic Swedes, while still in 2022 arguing for reducing the number of non-Swedes in the country to a minimum to return to the days of a pure ethno-state. Yes, the idea of some religious OTHER seeking to infiltrate and dismantle your way of life through their barbarism and anti-Enlightment ideals is no different whether pointed towards Jews or Muslims. 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Communion

[Nano]

5 minutes ago, Communion said:

This is so brazenly historically inaccurate that it comes off as illiterate at best and disinformation at worst.

Literally nothing in that post was inaccurate. The Jews were not recent immigrants nor were they religious.

 

6 minutes ago, Communion said:

The article in the OP literally details how members of the SD party were attending rallies within the past year about stopping Jewish Global elites from controlling the world banks.

I know the SDs are steeped deep in antisemitism. I wasn't trying to support them with any of my posts.

 

But the way the other parties are trying to pretend there isn't a problem is just irresponsible.

 

10 minutes ago, Communion said:

The entire propaganda of Nazism was to frame Judaism as both a cultural and racial parasitic force at odds with Western culture. Judeo-Bolshevism literally argued that Jews were at odds with Wesrern society and sought to infiltrate it and dismantle it from within.

No need to recap, honey. I paid attention in history class.

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

Some ATRLers in here see a political party has "democrats" name on it and think it's far fetched to call them alt right  

 

Quick google search of Sweden Democrats will tell you that "far right" title is accurate to it's political ideology

[MrDog]

1 hour ago, Chemist said:

They ARE far-right though according to most political position measurements. 

Far-right =/= neo-nazi

 

Like, kids are throwing these words left and right without even knowing the definition 

[arceus]

as long as they are not against gay people 

[Chemist]

2 minutes ago, MrDog said:

Far-right =/= neo-nazi

 

Like, kids are throwing these words left and right without even knowing the definition 

Neo-nazism has a very broad definition. Sweden democrats are ultranationalists. Anti-multiculturalists and islamophobes. Pretty much neo-nazis

[LeMésTragique]

I guess "tolerance" has its limits

[Robert]

People defending this mess

[MrDog]

2 hours ago, Chemist said:

Neo-nazism has a very broad definition. Sweden democrats are ultranationalists. Anti-multiculturalists and islamophobes. Pretty much neo-nazis

No it literally doesn't.

 

[Katy V.!]

Tankies thinking that "everyone I don't like is a nazi" still works  

 

Serving Republicans calling Dems commies

[Communion]

1 hour ago, MrDog said:

No it literally doesn't.

 

 

1 hour ago, Katy V.! said:

Tankies thinking that "everyone I don't like is a nazi" still works 

What do you call someone who wants to ensure their country is made up of people of only one ethnicity?

 

The horrific irony of the very same Eurosupremacists screaming about the treatment of Muslims in parts of Asia now saying there's nothing wrong with calling Muslims barbaric uneducated thugs who simply do not belong within European society by defending the SD party of NAZI'S in their goal of purging Muslims from Sweden  

 

Genuinely never letting some of you ever live down these posts ever again. You might as well never post in Civics again after this brazen defense of white supremacy. Your post histories from 2016 may be gone but we will never forget. 

Edited September 12, 2022 by Communion

[Jennifer]

Lol not surprising 

[MonsterJohn]

they have big problem with immigrants refusing to integrate, and the left did nothing effective to improve the situation, oh well

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Katy V.! said:

Tankies thinking that "everyone I don't like is a nazi" still works  

 

Serving Republicans calling Dems commies

Genuine question: what to you constitutes a “real” Nazi?

[CaptainMusic]

I’m not surprised that voters in European countries are turning to the right and against immigration when you have some immigrants who completely refuse to integrate into their new society and bring their racism, homophobia and sexism with them. 

[Scars]

3 hours ago, Headlock said:

Genuine question: what to you constitutes a “real” Nazi?

It's so transparent when people are actually more focused on create a fake distinction between white supremacist rethoric and "real" nazis rather than condone the rising popularity of those ideologies on the political spectrum of western societies. You can always tell those very same people are just upset they can't support neo-nazi talking points without looking morally corrupt. 

[KillingYourCareer]

Far right neo nazi? They're a right wing party with some loons  demanding for sacrosanct tighter immigration laws doesn't make you a nazi. Especially in Sweden where a lot of people are dissatisfied with the consequences of years of almost uncontrolled immigration. 

[katara]

I mean their immigration policies were... a choice so no suprise here. I thought the swedes would have voted right way sooner though.

 

And this is coming from someone who is very pro immigration as long as the goal is to integrate the immigrants to the host's society. Seems like Sweden took too many immigrants at once and completely failed to integrate them. They should follow Switzerland's example on efficient immigration policies. 

[katara]

14 hours ago, CaptainMusic said:

I’m not surprised that voters in European countries are turning to the right and against immigration when you have some immigrants who completely refuse to integrate into their new society and bring their racism, homophobia and sexism with them. 

The right wing wave in Europe is over (for now). Only the outliners Poland and Hungary remain but they have been weird for a very long time now.

 

You are right though Sweden's immigration policy was a distater just like their early Covid strategy. They need to filter out immigration candidates by education level and need to implement strong integration policies. 

[Kamil24]

They are not nazis. Congrats to the party  

[Headlock]

2 hours ago, Kamil24 said:

They are not nazis. Congrats to the party  

Of course the Freedom Convoy stan is defending white supremacists 

[Kamil24]

23 minutes ago, Headlock said:

Of course the Freedom Convoy stan is defending white supremacists 

Nazis have killed my ancestors and destroyed by parents' country. Why would I side with them?  

[Headlock]

20 minutes ago, Kamil24 said:

Nazis have killed my ancestors and destroyed by parents' country. Why would I side with them?  

Dunno, you tell me, seems like there’s some heavy cognitive dissonance going on