event Queen Elizabeth II laid to rest: 1926-2022

[nathanspears]

2 hours ago, RyuHinode said:

It's not a secret at all that Edward 8th was a Nazi sympathizer. He was a complete traitor to the country and was banished by the family.

 

2 hours ago, John Slayne said:

on top of all that, now the government is saying that her death will cost Britain £6 billion pounds - in the middle of a cost of living crisis. people are struggling to pay their bills, of course they have some feelings about billions being carelessly spent on the nonce family 

The others I agree with BUT I really wish we would stop talking about money as being one of the negatives for the monarchy. The majority of the money the monarch gets goes towards staff wages and the upkeep of the buildings. Hundreds, possibly thousands of jobs around the country. The amount of money they get is extremely insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

 

I have no idea where this £6bn figure came from... that's A LOT of money and I'd love to see a source. I understand a big cost will be the bank holidays (which Labour was suggesting we have 4 more of them so the left can't really say much about that). Security is also a big cost but again, that'll be money that goes to people... wages... it'll go straight back into the economy eventually.

Edited September 10, 2022 by nathanspears

[Apocalipstick]

Why does nobody mention the large sums of money from the Crown Estates that goes to the government?

 

If we were ever to become a republic it would be a messy divorce that would leave the country out of pocket. The monarchy is deeply intertwined with all our institutions, would it be worth abolishing just to bring in a head of state who will most definitely be more polarising and not get the same level of respect on the world stage. In a diplomatic sense the monarchy does wonders for us; note all the Heads of State and Government across the world who’ve spoke about the Queen in such fondness who don’t necessarily say the same about our Head of Government.

[Daydream]

Whatever the funeral does cost, it’s not as if the money spent on it is being pulled from taxpayers right now. That funding will have been allocated for decades in preparation for this event. And considering the income that the Royal Family generates for the UK, I’d say it’s the least she deserves.

[nathanspears]

I can completely understand the anger toward the monarchy for the colonial history and I really hope Charles enacts a change toward reparations for the affected countries and gives back any stolen jewels that the monarchy owns. This aspect does need to change asap.

 

HOWEVER, anything else is purely ideological. The movement to abolish the monarchy gives me Brexit flashbacks when people want this huge change for no apparent benefit. They just want to feel better no matter the cost and disruption 

[Jan]

Looks like King Charles III will be a great king. He can read the public mood well, as evidenced by him allowing that woman to kiss him on the cheek, and he accepted the Crown with grace and humility.

 

I have no doubt that the new Prince and Princess of Wales will serve the monarchy well.

 

The Brits are lucky to have the Royal family. They really do a fantastic job being the representatives of the country.

[Jan]

28 minutes ago, Nip Tuck said:

Hopefully now the Queen is dead we can remove the monarch as the head of state here in Australia.

I do understand republican sentiments in former colonies of the UK though. Must feel weird to have your head of state reside in far away Europe.

 

Still, it’s good for the country’s budget, they get all the glamour, but don’t have to chip in for Buckingham Palace. It’s all on British taxpayers.

[Apocalipstick]

9 minutes ago, nathanspears said:

I can completely understand the anger toward the monarchy for the colonial history and I really hope Charles enacts a change toward reparations for the affected countries and gives back any stolen jewels that the monarchy owns. This aspect does need to change asap.

 

HOWEVER, anything else is purely ideological. The movement to abolish the monarchy gives me Brexit flashbacks when people want this huge change for no apparent benefit. They just want to feel better no matter the cost and disruption 

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[nathanspears]

I just KNOW they're going to play I Vow To Thee My Country at the funeral and that will be the moment I crack 

[Kiel D-01]

Good.  Now please get rid of the rest of the rats. 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Kiel D-01

[Raiden]

On 9/8/2022 at 3:59 PM, ShouldersSideways said:

I don't believe in monarchy, but is this really comparable?  One is a dictator that leads by fear and actually brainwashing while committing atrocious war crimes, the other is a figurehead that is effectively living in a gilded cage? Her ancestors have done monstrous things but she's lived a pretty solid life of service with very little controversy, let alone murdering her people.

Both are dictators dummy. QE2 was also unelected and hereditary — exactly like Kim Jong il

 

As to the war crimes, she (not her ancestors) began to commit it swiftly — just six months into her throne half a million were dead.

 

 

[Raiden]

Edited September 10, 2022 by Raiden

[Thickorita]

44 minutes ago, nathanspears said:

I can completely understand the anger toward the monarchy for the colonial history and I really hope Charles enacts a change toward reparations for the affected countries and gives back any stolen jewels that the monarchy owns. This aspect does need to change asap.

 

HOWEVER, anything else is purely ideological. The movement to abolish the monarchy gives me Brexit flashbacks when people want this huge change for no apparent benefit. They just want to feel better no matter the cost and disruption 

Because the parliament being suspended for weeks because of a rotting corpse whilst we face the biggest cost of living crisis of our generation isn't a disruption? 

[Daydream]

1 minute ago, Thickorita said:

Because the parliament being suspended for weeks because of a rotting corpse whilst we face the biggest cost of living crisis of our generation isn't a disruption? 

The government has already confirmed their plans though and will be pressing on to implement this from October 1st. The Queen’s death has not affected this in any way, so… 

[nathanspears]

2 minutes ago, Thickorita said:

Because the parliament being suspended for weeks because of a rotting corpse whilst we face the biggest cost of living crisis of our generation isn't a disruption? 

The government doesn't shut down. They can still work to help people (although we are talking about the Tories, what do you really expect to change in a week?) If you think this is bad, the disruption of abolishing the monarchy would be FAR worse 

 

And it's not weeks, it's going to be a single week if the funeral is going to happen on the 19th as expected.

[Daydream]

Although them confirming a Bank Holiday kind of hints at it being Monday 19th (since they won't have announced a Bank Holiday if it was Sat/Sun), they really do need to confirm it ASAP. A lot of people will need to know if schools and workplaces are closing so that they can plan things like childcare, or know if their medical appointments, surgeries, court dates etc. are going to be cancelled. It affects all of us in some way.

[Kamil24]

When will Canada announce the bank holiday?

[Vermillion]

 

[Protocol]

But we need the audience government to buy the album confirm the specific bank holiday date

[Protocol]

1 minute ago, Gwendolyn said:

Watching the whole accession made me realise how OUTDATED everything about the monarch is 

Welcome to the UK. Where cutting edge modernity sits side by side with outdated corny pompous BS removed from reality.

[katara]

Why the f**k did Brazil announce 3 days bank holiday. They weren't even part of the empire wtf 

[Stellar1103]

May hell welcome her with open arms.

[Apocalipstick]

The state funeral of Queen Elizabeth II will be held at Monday 19th September 2022, a day earlier declared as a bank holiday.

[BtDecember]

OMG, will Canada also get a bank holiday?

[Apocalipstick]

 

[GraceRandolph]