ClashAndBurn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 The only comparison made to Hitler was a royalist defending the UK and America from being called “irredeemably evil” because they saved the world from Hitler, as though Stalin’s USSR didn’t also play a role in that and it didn’t absolve him from being rightly described as an evil authoritarian. The pearl-clutching because Vin WRONGLY said anyone was comparing Elizabeth to Hitler just goes to show…
ClashAndBurn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, i spit on haters said: Coming back to this thread and apparently there was a Hitler reference ? I couldn't care less about this woman's passing and her history (past and present) shows she objectively was not a good person. But, Hitler ? guys. See my post just below yours and you’ll understand that the royalists are spreading hyperbole and misinformation to make any criticism of Liz look bad.
i spit on haters Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The only comparison made to Hitler was a royalist defending the UK and America from being called “irredeemably evil” because they saved the world from Hitler, as though Stalin’s USSR didn’t also play a role in that and it didn’t absolve him from being rightly described as an evil authoritarian. The pearl-clutching because Vin WRONGLY said anyone was comparing Elizabeth to Hitler just goes to show… Oh, okay. This puts it into perspective. Cause I was like
fountain Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Mikeymoonshine said: Most of you aren't even British, haven't had to put up with the endless royalist propaganda we do and still chose to buy into the whole thing anyway. Truly embarrassing. This is the most laughable thing for me. A lot of these people don’t know what they are talking about or who they are crying over. It’s just a pathetic means of attention.
Alak96 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Not the Kelly Clarkson stans and the biggest OGH... coming out as royalists Edited September 9, 2022 by Alak96
ClashAndBurn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, greeneyedsoul said: The kii was when they compared her wealth (that she and her ancestor stole) to Madonna selling cds and concert tickets. Why is Madonna a "good" millionaire but Lizzie was a "bad" one? They were trying to make the exact same point about Ariana too because of @Communion having her in his avatar. They really thought it was a valid gotcha 14 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: Oh, okay. This puts it into perspective. Cause I was like Always trust that bad faith posters will jump to spread misinfo about the left wherever possible, and the sheep will latch onto it and parrot it without question
Kamil24 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 So ATRL expected the Queen to return all that was stolen and pay reparations? But when Poland asks Germany for reparations for WW2, ATRL says they don't deserve it. Why the double standard? That request doesn't even include all that Poland lost when it was partitioned in 1772 by Germany, Austria and Russia. Or all the riches that were stolen by other invaders like Sweden or Mongolia... and then the rest taken by the Soviet Union post-WW2... all which was never seen again.
cypriotpcdfan Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Seeing average British people literally CRYING over her death We really are doomed as humanity. We are literally KNEELING in front of that 1% WILLINGLY. Literal slave mentality. I should keep posting this picture in every single page, to remind/inform everyone on WHO this lady was.
i spit on haters Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, cypriotpcdfan said: Seeing average British people literally CRYING over her death We really are doomed as humanity. We are literally KNEELING in front of that 1% WILLINGLY. Literal slave mentality. I should keep posting this picture in every single page, to remind/inform everyone on WHO this lady was. Never seen this photo before. Clearly taken at different time periods but still damning. I know her son, Andrew, had very close ties to Epstein but I didn't know Elizabeth herself met with Jeffery and spent time with him. Assuming that's the case because this photo isn't giving much context. It's clearly the same lodge, though.
LoveInStereo Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 My great grandmother was 1 of the civilians working covertly to help IRA to fight the English. I'll never be a bootlicker. The Queen had a better life than anybody deserves & that's the only thing worth being sad about here.
ToMmY Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: Coming back to this thread and apparently there was a Hitler reference ? I couldn't care less about this woman's passing and her history (past and present) shows she objectively was not a good person. But, Hitler ? guys. Plot twist: an undercover royalist compared her to Hitler so she doesn't look as bad as she actually is. 8 hours ago, Cottonmouth said: Her death has been underwhelming so far. Not the cute event I thought it would be. She ain't no Diana, I fear. 6 hours ago, Cloröx said: Can someone tell why the hell Britney fans here defending the colonisers? Don't generalize. I'm sure the few of them that are doing it are brainwashed brits.
Genius1111 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cloröx said: Some people suffered Stockholm syndrome and I just cannot "We should thank the Queen because she granted us the freedom and independence" Wtf was that You won't beg for independence if there's no colonisation at first place Your statements reminded me of the remarks made by some Taiwanese politicians. The previous president of Taiwan said that Taiwan should remember the good things that Japan (which colonized Taiwan for 90 years) had done. Despite the bad things that Japan had done during that period, judging from the Taiwanese shows that I watch, the Taiwanese continue to be rather fascinated by Japan and don't seem to bear any ill will. Japan-Taiwan relations seem to be rock solid and Taiwan probably donated the most to Japan in the aftermath of the Tohoku earthquake/tsunami in 2011. The mayor of Taipei in 2015 remarked that if a Chinese-majority place had been colonized longer, it ended up becoming more developed. (He's still the mayor and has a job approval rating of 57%, down from 80% during his first 100 days.) https://thediplomat.com/2015/02/was-colonialism-good-for-asia/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-taiwan-china-idUSKCN0SJ03Y20151025 Adding on since I am already off-topic A good proportion of Hong Kongers are anti-mainland and those who wanted to get their BNO passports have already gotten them. They are unlikely to be tearing down colonial relics, like what we have seen in the West in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. For Singapore, there was a documentary series that was aired recently about how the different ethnic groups/nationalities came to thrive in during the colonial era before WW2. Different nationalities/ethnicities had their own dedicated streets/enclaves as planned by the British. I assume that the British did that to prevent too much fighting between the different groups, and subtly show which groups were favored / not favored. In any case, the show was shown in a very light-heared way, and gives the impression that British were very good at urban planning and skillful at creating cosmopolitan cities. The Chinese government is the one that makes sure that no one domestically forgets the horrid things done by the Eight-Nation Alliance. Having said that, I did remember my teacher from China making a casual remark that Qing Dynasty China probably needed to be colonized in order to improve. Final point: It also helps if that plot of land doesn't really have resources (diamonds, crude oil) to be plundered by the colonizers. TLDR: Colonial hangover is real. Edited September 9, 2022 by Genius1111
HeavyMetalAura Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 I do think it’s very interesting seeing the amount of public disdain for this woman and the general lack of respect/anger toward the monarchy (to be clear, I agree with the disdain and anger). I just didn’t realize until the Queen’s death that it was more widespread than I thought. I’m not in the UK, so I wouldn’t know, but I guess I thought it was more of an unpopular opinion than it was. Of course, we’re all living in our own filter bubbles, so my algorithms are more inclined to show me opinions that are similar to my own. Even still, no one can deny that - filter bubbles and outside-of-UK perspective aside - there’s an unprecedented amount of vitriol toward the system showing itself. I don’t think the monarchy will crumble anytime soon, and I think that the overwhelming majority of Brits still support it, but clearly cracks in the foundation are showing. Especially as inflation rises and everyone struggles, people will rightfully continue to ask why one family gets SO much money for seemingly no real reason. It’s exciting to think we may finally see the end of this cruel system maybe not anytime soon, but potentially in our lifetimes. And maybe one day we’ll look back on yesterday and think of it as the day things began to change.
Cloröx Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 The royalists in here make me howling, the fact that they are resorting on Hitler just to make Lizzy less evil
cypriotpcdfan Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, i spit on haters said: Never seen this photo before. Clearly taken at different time periods but still damning. I know her son, Andrew, had very close ties to Epstein but I didn't know Elizabeth herself met with Jeffery and spent time with him. Assuming that's the case because this photo isn't giving much context. It's clearly the same lodge, though. That's one of the Queen's cabins, where Epstein and Ghislaine used to stay at/visited. If you take into consideration the fact that Prince Andrew was highly involed with them and how the Royal Family is covering for him... the facts are all there. Actually, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me that they assasinated Diana, not due to her boyfriend - which is what the rumors/theories suggest - but maybe due to the fact that Diana found out about the Royal Family's involvement in child sex trafficking and was going to speak out..
ShouldersSideways Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 the twists and turns an atrl thread makes never fails to amaze me she's the legacy of imperialism that wrought destruction on most of the world and that is a conversation to be had. but to pretend she's a lizard woman trafficking children is reaching. it's a lot more nuanced than that she never had a hand in anything like that and never met epstein, but her turning a blind eye to andrew and defending him is the real issue. not everyone is a goblin king like in a fantasy book... people are complicated and the reality isn't as simple as everyone wants it to be.
Doogle Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Oh I feel bad for my post on page one I thought she’d be ok RIP lovely, you’ll be missed x No point now with a King. End of an era for real, think it dies with her
Zaram Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Kamil24 said: So ATRL expected the Queen to return all that was stolen and pay reparations? But when Poland asks Germany for reparations for WW2, ATRL says they don't deserve it. Why the double standard? That request doesn't even include all that Poland lost when it was partitioned in 1772 by Germany, Austria and Russia. Or all the riches that were stolen by other invaders like Sweden or Mongolia... and then the rest taken by the Soviet Union post-WW2... all which was never seen again. And americans should leave the land and give it back to the natives and every first world country should pay reparation to the other countries, because they used them to expand their success.
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