Teen Idle Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I'm not gonna criticise those who are mourning her death because they're unaware. Once you see through the illusion of monarchy, you realise the suffering that the institution and its members are responsible for. But those who grew up with Ms Liz, especially in the pre-internet days, were essentially brainwashed into believing the monarchy was a force of good and a necessary part of society. I'm not going to change my Grandma's worldview by telling her the atrocities the Queen and the Royal Family are responsible for at this time when she's mourning the only constant throughout her life, who she believed to be good based on what she was taught. The monarchy was the glue that kept British society together in lieu of religion towards the end of the 20th century. I also find it hard to not have sympathy for the family themselves as it's essentially a cult. The kids don't choose to be born into that family, and they're brainwashed and don't get to have normal socialisation with their peers. Good on Harry for getting out, but that took an outsider who could recognise the toxic dynamics at play within the family. Hopefully, as a nation, we can become less attached to the concept of monarchy and take a more critical approach to their place in society. I understand why people are angry at the royal family for their role in causing mass suffering, and also the lack of responsibility they've taken for it. But the jingoistic mentality of some of the comments in here is the exact same mentality of the royal family and their supporters. Edited September 9, 2022 by Teen Idle
Great808 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Someone in possession of a handheld object worth hundreds of millions of dollars while simultaneously owning countless worths of immense wealth and did NOTHING to help people in need that could have easily have made a lot of peoples lives better by giving up a tiny fraction of their possessions does not deserve respect. I would feel sick to my stomach having even a 7 digit bank account and not helping people struggling out there let alone a 10 digit bank account Pathetic and selfish are understatements to describe people like this. I just can not imagine...
MonsterJohn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 White people love to look other way when it comes to their own atrocity The white savior complex is strong with this one. Luckily newer generation knows what's up
Jan Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) I am not sure why some people are celebrating her death, considering she was a figurehead and a symbol of duty and devotion to her country. She didn’t colonise or decolonise anyone as it was not within her power to do so. It’s probably jealousy though. They see the privileged life, but not the limits and regulations coming with it. And most of them are probably Americans. Edited September 9, 2022 by Jan
ClashAndBurn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jan said: I am not sure why some people are celebrating her death, considering she was a figurehead and a symbol of duty and devotion to her country. She didn’t colonise or decolonise anyone as it was not within her power to do so. It’s probably jealousy though. They see the privileged life, but not the limits and regulations coming with it. And most of them are probably Americans. Not so much celebrating her death as much as I’m enjoying the misery of the insufferable people who are mourning her. Especially the ones tearfully crying out for civility bullshit for people being mean to a long-standing symbol of oppression. It’s not about the Queen or the Royal Family being evil, but the UK itself being an irredeemably evil country. And before you ask, yes, I do feel the same about America and that both countries’ dissolution would be an improvement for the world. Edited September 9, 2022 by ClashAndBurn
igninton Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jan said: I am not sure why some people are celebrating her death, considering she was a figurehead and a symbol of duty and devotion to her country. She didn’t colonise or decolonise anyone as it was not within her power to do so. It’s probably jealousy though. They see the privileged life, but not the limits and regulations coming with it. And most of them are probably Americans. *and other European Republicans. Edited September 9, 2022 by igninton
Gorgeous Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Cottonmouth said: Not this Woman's funeral most likely being on my Birthday. The fact we might not get a day off work since it falls on a Sunday too. It's not like she even tried to breathe a bit longer. Her death has been underwhelming so far. Not the cute event I thought it would be. the fact that she was evil since her last breath I'm sure she had a couple more days left but was like give me the drugs now so people don't get a day off. 2 hours ago, Sugar-Rush said: It's so stupid for people to blame her for various British atrocities when she was simply a figurehead and wouldn't have had any power to stop those atrocities even if she wanted to. And spare me the "but she benefitted from it!!!" bullshit btw; the same could be said about most British/White people yet y'all still come for some dead old lady. Its not like abdication doesn't exist, and she could also renounce her titles any moment of her loooong 96 years of life. She was actively and consciously benefiting from the wealth generated by colonialism, its not like she was a prisoner at the palace.
Jan Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Not so much celebrating her death as much as I’m enjoying the misery of the insufferable people who are mourning her. Especially the ones tearfully crying out for civility bullshit for people being mean to a long-standing symbol of oppression. It’s not about the Queen or the Royal Family being evil, but the UK itself being an irredeemably evil country. And before you ask, yes, I do feel the same about America and that both countries’ dissolution would be an improvement for the world. Location: Georgia, US. Yeah, checks out.
greeneyedsoul Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Why does the UK monarchy have bots on atrl out of all places?
allforyou Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 I read the news yesterday that she was ill but I didn't think much of it… she's one of those people who seemed immortal. RIP.
prézli Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, allforyou said: I read the news yesterday that she was ill Please... she was 96. Let's not overanalyze it.
cypriotpcdfan Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Are people really mourning this death? Yesterday, we lost a pedo enabler. We should be celebrating, because NEVER FORGET
greeneyedsoul Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Does someone have a playlist with good Irish/Celtic music?
Protocol Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 I don't feel particularly strongly about the RF, but it's a bit disingenuous for people to be saying "how dare she hoard that wealth, she was totally evil" while they have the avatar of an equally rich American showbiz plutocrat celebrity who also hoards their wealth, on a website that is largely dedicated to following the every move of mega rich celebrities. When Madonna or Beyonce dies no one is going to be saying "she was evil, she had a Picasso worth $200M, she could've sold it to help people, rot in hell!".
Protocol Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, greeneyedsoul said: Does someone have a playlist with good Irish/Celtic music? Now this is shady
Zaram Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 Charles will never be that iconic Queen of acting
ClashAndBurn Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Protocol said: I don't feel particularly strongly about the RF, but it's a bit disingenuous for people to be saying "how dare she hoard that wealth, she was totally evil" while they have the avatar of an equally rich American showbiz plutocrat celebrity who also hoards their wealth. Ariana Grande is obscenely wealthy, and that is a problem, sure. But our system allowing such people to be so obscenely rich is the problem more than the celebrities themselves. The monarchy’s hoard is largely stolen wealth pillaged from countries that her country invaded and colonized. Not even remotely the same thing.
Genius1111 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 From The Guardian (It seems like they are the only ones in the UK providing free-to-read live updates?) Royal Mail and rail workers cancel strikes after the Queen’s death Strikes by postal and rail workers have been cancelled after the death of Queen Elizabeth II. Royal Mail workers were due to stage the second day of a 48-hour strike on Friday in a dispute over pay and conditions. “Following the very sad news of the passing of the Queen, and out of respect for her service to the country and her family, the union has decided to call off tomorrow’s planned strike action,” said Dave Ward, the general secretary of the Communication Workers Union, which represents posties.
Nicholai Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 It is always surprising to me how unaware british people (and people from other imperialist nations like France and US) are of how their country are seen from the outside and especially in third world countries. AND particularly in countries who are/were victims of that imperialism. Hope this thread shows them the painful truth.
JoshSpears1805 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ClashAndBurn said: Not so much celebrating her death as much as I’m enjoying the misery of the insufferable people who are mourning her. Especially the ones tearfully crying out for civility bullshit for people being mean to a long-standing symbol of oppression. It’s not about the Queen or the Royal Family being evil, but the UK itself being an irredeemably evil country. And before you ask, yes, I do feel the same about America and that both countries’ dissolution would be an improvement for the world. wtf , we saved the world from Hitler, you dont know the meaning of the word evil
JoshSpears1805 Posted September 9, 2022 Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Nicholai said: It is always surprising to me how unaware british people (and people from other imperialist nations like France and US) are of how their country are seen from the outside and especially in third world countries. AND particularly in countries who are/were victims of that imperialism. Hope this thread shows them the painful truth. the queen is oved from all over Africa, my mothers family are from Nigeria where they are mourning her passing in Hong kong there is a movement to rejoin us away from china
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