discussion Is anyone sick of everything being political?

[Trent W]

42 minutes ago, Aristide said:

What is the difference?

The left is more focused in economics, such as wealth inequality, taxes and other forms of oppressions focused on economics.

 

The Liberal term is more focused on social issues such as race, lgbtq+, xenophobia and religious discrimination.

 

A lot of times the same crowd follow all of the above.

 

Sometimes people are liberal socially but more right wing on economics.

 

So is really ignorant to call “the left” on everything liberal, cause it’s not the same thing.

[Buffy]

23 hours ago, Tropez said:

For example, a TV show or movie casts a woman in a role. Somehow its woke liberal politics, people just seem to be looking for something to be angry about. You cant even read a book, play a game, or simply watch a video without someone making it political. Almost everything is political when it actually isn’t or shouldn’t be. Americans have essentially poisoned everything with their politics. 
 

 

Yes. This is why the 90s and early 2000 shows from the WB will always remain the best. 

[Pop Life]

I gave up on engaging in political discourse ages ago once I realized that all the discussions have been taken over by opportunists who are more interested in virtue signaling and pulling focus than in actually confronting the systems that threaten those they claim to care about.

It's the reason so many people on social media stay quiet when it comes to real predators and oppression but will jump at the chance to punch down at someone who maybe didn't use the right words in a tweet from 5 years ago. They don't care how bad their takes are as long as they get to feel like the protagonist in a struggle that doesn't affect them. They've turned what could have been a meaningful push towards equality into a joke.

And what gets me the most is that the backlash we're starting to see now will skip right over them and hit those who were already the most vulnerable. Just thinking about it makes me tired

Edited September 3, 2022 by Pop Life

[terrorblade]

yes tbh I just play video games nowadays

On 9/2/2022 at 10:13 AM, Aristide said:

I mean the Left controls the media and the entertainment industry, so it's pretty obvious who's to blame. They don't care about actual issues affecting society because they don't want to help, so instead they show us BS in the media so people are distracted from real issues.

On 9/2/2022 at 7:30 PM, Vertigo Stick said:

The truth is everything is already politicalized. Mass media cannot be separated from politics. Media choosing not to focus on politics = a political move. 

 

The current political era of television is so bad. No one knows how to write entertainment anymore. This era of television focuses so much on inclusivity that pop cultural tv feels more unrealistic than ever before. Characters don't seem inspired by real people, but by social media topics. A huge difference. A topic doesn't translate into a personality. 
 

*upbeat perky music*
 

Elaine: *comes to work 15 minutes late*

Boss: You're late. 
Elaine: Yes. I'm late. I've been carrying the weight of living in a patriarchal society. Did you know that women make an average of, oh and women of color make -

Boss: Elaine...

Elaine: What?

Secretary: That's why I make sure to vote every November ;) 

 

Like this is a sure fire way to get my blood boiling because wtf

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[808s]

On 9/2/2022 at 5:39 AM, BtDecember said:

Yes, and I am saying this as an immigrant Asian minority from Canada.

 

Growing up in a developing country with a wack economy and even wackier politicians, I find some of the issues in western world ridiculous.

Like, seriously, people are literally dying in another part of the world and here you are being offended for someone not using a paper straw or something.

Westerners should really get outside and travel outside first world countries (you know, not just Japan or South Korea).

Even homeless people here are more well-off than half of the world's population because, while slow and sometimes ineffective, they still get support from the government.

 

However, I am also glad with many of the issues being brought up here and taken seriously, like mental illness, gender inequalities, and racism.

These issues are not taken seriously back home, mainly due to ignorance and by simply not caring at all.

This is not a good comparison, since that's a global problem. A better comparison would be the pronouns folks etc

 

On 9/2/2022 at 5:13 AM, Aristide said:

I mean the Left controls the media and the entertainment industry, so it's pretty obvious who's to blame. They don't care about actual issues affecting society because they don't want to help, so instead they show us BS in the media so people are distracted from real issues.

 

[RockStarShit101]

Every single aspect of our life is political, though. It's not just a new thing that young people started to grasp. 

 

 

 

[BtDecember]

2 hours ago, 808s said:

This is not a good comparison, since that's a global problem. A better comparison would be the pronouns folks etc

 

 

Yup, that too! Funny that I actually thought of that a few moments after I posted this. For me, instead of making more pronouns for more specific classification, why not just create one that is genderless and general? Filipinos and their Tagalog language have gender neutral pronouns so why not English? You come out with bunch of new internet slangs every day so it should be easy.

 

Anyway I also think paper straw should be used but people should not be shamed for not using one as if they killed someone.

[Buddy]

20 hours ago, Aristide said:

What is the difference?

Liberals = unconditionally Democratic party, middle class and coastal elite, socially liberal but against populism, capitalist, more authoritarian, economically conservative and globalist, vapid identity politic virtue signaling with little progress

 

Leftists = economically progressive, populist working class, socially democratic (capitalism with strong social safety net) or socialist, not for Democratic party unconditionally, cape for social programs heavily, often involve themselves in vapid identity politic virtue signaling with little progress as well which is what confuses most people

[Mr.Link]

I’m more sick of the liberal woke agenda being everywhere like with that flop Ghostbusters “remake” and The Little Mermaid

[Saddy]

Yes

[Communion]

18 minutes ago, Mr.Link said:

I’m more sick of the liberal woke agenda being everywhere like with that flop Ghostbusters “remake” and The Little Mermaid

A black mermaid makes The Little Mermaid inherently "woke"?

[KillingYourCareer]

Yeah especially because most people don't even know what they're talking about and just parrot repeat whatever they heard in their echo chamber

[blueberries]

Yeah, and treating celebs who (MIGHT have in most cases) voted republican like they are some kind of monsters is corny even for this forum, just say you don't like them

[Alldeezy]

yes, I always change the channel, or turn off if someone talks about it around me! my brain legit has blocked it 

[Ice Cream Skies]

On 9/1/2022 at 8:13 PM, Aristide said:

I mean the Left controls the media and the entertainment industry

This is 100% true, though (left of center).

Someone will report me for this, but an example of the current state of things is how there's a black person in almost every commercial on TV nowadays. There's a large marketing component, because black people watch the most TV according to demographics research, but then the media gets diversity/inclusion points by default as well. And there are a lot of conservatives/rednecks who are pissed about black people being in every commercial, because they think it's pandering.  But it's not even necessarily a political move, it's just interpreted that way, because it also can fit from that perspective.

 

Anyway. This is different from that non-binary melting pot they turned Queer as Folk into.  But yeah. It's all a bit of a mess.

Edited September 4, 2022 by Ice Cream Skies

[kandicha]

I definitely know some people who don't know how to talk about anything other than politics, and that really annoys me. Of course I have my political opinions as well but there's a time and a place to discuss. We don't need to talk about it 24/7, sometimes I don't want to think about things that will just make me depressed to think of, sometimes we can distract ourselves from the reality of the world, we can talk about silly or fun things instead.

[Robert]

I don’t mind shows/movies being political, most shows will have some leaning, the issue is it’s super overt a lot of the time (for example, Che from Just Like That has no personality other than the social issue the writers thought relevant). I guess it depends on the show/movie but I think a subtle message is more effective than characters just randomly talking about social issues with little build up. 

 

Please stop saying a POC being on screen is a political statement, this is just offensive and untrue. 

[Theshigo Washidu]

On 9/2/2022 at 8:12 PM, Jotham said:

It's funny because conservatives constantly complain about liberals being too "sensitive" but they are the ones who make everything they see on television a political issue.

 

I saw this. It was Drew Barrymore though, not Reese Witherspoon. The person got so much backlash from other Black creators after she uploaded that response.

Oop, I stand corrected 

 

 

[Bussea]

ya

[fountain]

It’s not like it’s done out of fun, it’s basically a requirement these days. Everything wouldn’t have to be political if everybody knew how to behave right, but a vast amount of people don’t. If you want to be mad at anybody, be mad at them.

[Damien M]

Everything IS political, sorry 

 

White people are just uncomfortable with minorities asserting themselves and taking up space. I mean, look at this thread. 

[DoctorIce]

On 9/2/2022 at 4:12 AM, Trent W said:

is also pathetic to include politics in your art in 2022.

What a crock. Art is a medium that has always been culturally (and therefore politically) significant. To suggest that political expression in 2022 is bad and art should purely be a shiny thing for mere entertainment is wildly stupid. 

 

On 9/4/2022 at 12:03 AM, Mr.Link said:

I’m more sick of the liberal woke agenda being everywhere like with that flop Ghostbusters “remake” and The Little Mermaid

The brain rot necessary to believe that a black actress being cast in a lead role = liberal woke agenda!!1!1

 

This is an especially dumb take when the animated version was clearly set off the shores of the Caribbean given its characters and use of Calypso music, which is easily the most iconic thing from the original.  But don't let the facts get in the way of your prejudice. 

[Mr.Link]

1 minute ago, DoctorIce said:

The brain rot necessary to believe that a black actress being cast in a lead role = liberal woke agenda!!1!1

You know damn well this is not what I mean but whatever fits your performative activism…

[DoctorIce]

1 minute ago, Mr.Link said:

You know damn well this is not what I mean but whatever fits your performative activism…

That's precisely what your Daily Mail'd post implies given that you didn't bother elaborating. If you post a dumb take, you're going to get called out. That's how free speech works. That's not 'activism', it's the literal nature of a discussion thread.  Clearly there's no discussion to be had here though as you're unable/unwilling to substantiate your assertion. 

[Peroxide]

On 9/2/2022 at 4:13 AM, Aristide said:

I mean the Left controls the media and the entertainment industry, so it's pretty obvious who's to blame. They don't care about actual issues affecting society because they don't want to help, so instead they show us BS in the media so people are distracted from real issues.

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