simmnfierzig Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Lavender Haze at #98 on US Apple Music. Got a boost from the video for like 2 days and since then its way lower than it was before
Gork Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 it would be nice if she gets the SOTY with ATW10 and uses the speech to announce SN(TV) following the narrative of the lyrics composition and that is the only writer credited on that album
Bosque Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said: Yeah seems like the algorithm pushes some new songs with every new tracking week It seems like maybe they're experimenting which songs are performing more or less well after an algorithmic push
LiamVillain Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said: Lavender Haze at #98 on US Apple Music. Got a boost from the video for like 2 days and since then its way lower than it was before oh the era is definitely over
Bosque Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I am so curious what the Vault tracks on Speak Now will sound like. On Red TV she gave us country throwback (IBYTAM), songs that would fit on Red itself (Forever Winter, Run, Nothing New), Fearless pop throwback (TVFN) and proto-1989 (MIAB). Is she gonna serve more country ballads, or some other stuff like BTR that's out of left field for her?
Gladiator Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) I'm ready for Speak Now TV. I'm so over Midnights. :( Edited February 4, 2023 by Gladiator
vale9001 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Speak now Tv is the re recording i'm waiting more. I think the album could have been with a more rough sound but the label just want from the producer this more clean sound cause that was the kind of teen pop rock they prefer and they sell easier. So I'm really curious about that, you can say the same thing about State of Grace, the original version sounded like an avril Lavigne song, the TV version has more the kind of pop rock arena sound (coldplay, kings of leone) it deserves. Talking about the vault tracks.. i don't have any particular hype. Honestly the deluxe songs of the album were already weak and the album is already long...I don't think she wrote like so many songs for that or she cut off so many gems or something very different thematically or for the sound, so what we need is already on the album...then of course you're a fan and a new song to listen to is always something pleasant but after fearless (forgettable or already heard on the album vault songs) i don't have any hype, i think it's the same for SN. It changes from album to album. For example for Reputation i don't have any hype about listening those songs made again..i mean they are all max martin, the producer can make all of them only weakiest, the album is recent, i really don't care...but i have hype for the vault tracks cause i think at the time she could have discarded some more explicit and interesting songs than some of the ones in the final cut. Edited February 4, 2023 by vale9001
Bosque Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, vale9001 said: Speak now Tv is the re recording i'm waiting more. I think the album could have been with a more rough sound but the label just want from the producer this more clean sound cause that was the kind of teen pop rock they prefer and they sell easier. So I'm really curious about that, you can say the same thing about State of Grace, the original version sounded like an avril Lavigne song, the TV version has more the kind of pop rock arena sound (coldplay, kings of leone) it deserves. Talking about the vault tracks.. i don't have any particular hype. Honestly the deluxe songs of the album were already weak and the album is already long...I don't think she wrote like so many songs for that or she cut off so many gems or something very different thematically or for the sound, so what we need is already on the album...then of course you're a fan and a new song to listen to is always something pleasant but after fearless (forgettable or already heard on the album vault songs) i don't have any hype, i think it's the same for SN. It changes from album to album. For example for Reputation i don't have any hype about listening those songs made again..i mean they are all max martin, the producer can make all of them only weakiest, the album is recent, i really don't care...but i have hype for the deluxe editions cause i think at the time she could have discarded some more explicit and interesting songs than some of the ones in the final cut. I'm excited for Speak Now Vault because I think there might be 1-2 experiments on there that, even if they aren't good, they're at least interesting. It's clear that she was already exploring new sounds at the time, so maybe there's something she didn't dare put on the album. I'm not very excited for vault tracks from 1989 or reputation because those albums have a very well planned-out sound, so I think any vault track would just be a weaker version of ideas she already explored on the album anyway.
vale9001 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Dephira said: I'm excited for Speak Now Vault because I think there might be 1-2 experiments on there that, even if they aren't good, they're at least interesting. It's clear that she was already exploring new sounds at the time, so maybe there's something she didn't dare put on the album. I'm not very excited for vault tracks from 1989 or reputation because those albums have a very well planned-out sound, so I think any vault track would just be a weaker version of ideas she already explored on the album anyway. for 1989 songs are so infectious there i'm curious to heard some new of them, even if i'm not expecting something new. For rep in my opinion she wrote a lot of things during that time and didn't end on the album. The album is really too much planned to a specific narrative (they want to me bad, i decide to became bad for them bad until love saved me ), I think there is some more burning material she didn't want to put there (as for nothing new in red). There is for example a rumour about a song made with drake really offensive about Kanye and his ex wife but at the end she wasn't brave enough to put in the album and she put those bland lyrics like LWYMMD instead. Edited February 4, 2023 by vale9001
ksmith Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 5:07 AM, Taylor fanboy said: Hillary Duff on Taylor Swift (Taylor’s Version) would be amazing. @Beyonnaise @ksmith Let’s manifest it
Michael196 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Spotify: January: 2020: 332M 2021: 715M (+115%) 2022: 913M (+27%) 2023: 1.53B (+67%) December 2020: 966M January 2021: 715M (-26%) December 2021: 1.023B January 2022: 913M (-10.7%) December 2022: 1.57B January 2023: 1.53B (-2.5%)
simmnfierzig Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, FancyStars said: I've been thinking... Do u guys think she changed the lyrics of better than revenge? Dont think so
youreyesgocold Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, FancyStars said: I've been thinking... Do u guys think she changed the lyrics of better than revenge? No, but I am 100% certain when she announces SNTV that the caption will vaguely address it with something like “These songs perfectly captured my feelings as a young girl becoming a woman - I was young, naive, and threw blame at the wrong targets because I was still learning about the complexities of life. I wrote them all on my own, and now we can revisit them again together, along with 10 more songs from the vault that I didn’t release back then”
Gork Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, FancyStars said: I've been thinking... Do u guys think she changed the lyrics of better than revenge? I've been wondering the same thing since the Bejeweled easter eggs. I really don't know and I don't care, tbh. If she doesn't change it, she'll give some explanation (I guess) and if she does change it, she'll find a good solution
vale9001 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Why She should?. Please stop with this algorithmic **** to feed the social Networks. It's cringe. Artists needs to be honest or we get rubbish like The man . This Is how she felt almost 15 years ago and as young woman. Now She won't write It cause you grow up...no Need to change the past.
Bosque Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 She should keep the lyrics unchanged and make the caption for that song "I said what I said, *****".
youreyesgocold Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dephira said: She should keep the lyrics unchanged and make the caption for that song "I said what I said, *****".
fridayteenage Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 she's not a saint she's not what you think she's an actress but she's better known for the things that she does as a detractress, whoa-oh but she's better known for the things that she does that are tactless, whoa-oh but she's better known for being prickly like a cactus, whoa-oh but she's better known for stealing things, she's had much practice, whoa-oh
State of Grace. Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Artists needs to be honest or we get rubbish like The man kqkdksksk Loser keeps catching strays
Holiest Dreams Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Her changing BTR lyrics is a nightmare scenario. She was a young woman (barely 20) and that’s how she felt then. Right or wrong, you can’t change the past, and let’s not pretend like having misdirected anger isn’t something everyone (especially people at that age) feel at some point. Yes, I know some people will use it as fuel to try and come for her, but no one will care in the real world… as always. She’s said her piece even before now about how she doesn’t identify with the sentiment anymore and condemns it. So she has no reason to rewrite the past when she gave a raw and unfiltered perspective (again, regardless of it being right or wrong). I’m glad most people here are on the same page
Michael196 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 All I know is that EnchantedTV will have to settle for #2 even if it gets pushed since it’s going to get blocked by the future smash BTR TV which will go viral instantly for all the right and wrong reasons
pinkbowvintage Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 We really deserved a rock version of The Great War:
Lemon Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Dephira said: She should keep the lyrics unchanged and make the caption for that song "I said what I said, *****". This right here. Others have explained it well too. It’s not like she is forbidden to conceal her true emotions felt at certain age and time just because those feelings and thoughts are not postitive. I mean, for example, let’s erase Getaway Car as well since we are there considering cheating is no better than something nasty she said in Better than Revenge. People are not perfect and we all said similar kind of things in act of being angry or similiar.
Cleanromantic Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 Better than revenge should stay the way it is. The oth already say that she's a petty villainess who hates women (just look at the SZA debacle a few weeks back) so she might as well do what ever the **** she wants, they'll find a reason to paint her as a horrible person whether she keeps it or not .
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