littlebodybigheart Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 taylor has been writing silly songs her whole career. if you don’t like her putting campy songs in her albums maybe you just don’t like her as an artist but that’s clearly her vision for her albums. there are plenty of other artists to stan that don’t write campy lyrics but idk why you’d expect that from taylor swift. bejeweled and karma are also great pop songs.
Starchild Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, littlebodybigheart said: taylor has been writing silly songs her whole career. if you don’t like her putting campy songs in her albums maybe you just don’t like her as an artist but that’s clearly her vision for her albums. there are plenty of other artists to stan that don’t write campy lyrics but idk why you’d expect that from taylor swift. bejeweled and karma are also great pop songs. The funny thing is, they act like taylor makes campy songs when it's other girls that make their whole career out of awful camp she has 1-2 campy songs an album (I don't listen to lover) and even then she's getting way better at it. Karma and bejeweled are actually really good pop songs I agree with the music videos tho, the sketches need to at least be put at the end of the video or sumn
Ms. Togekiss Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Cleanromantic said: I think not only do Bejeweled and Karma have more personality, but they are also witty and cleverly written. Future Nostalgia could be sang by literally anyone, and while it's great sonically, I think Midnights sounds equally as expensive, especially those two songs. Only Vigilante **** is a dud but I act like it doesn't exist so... I guess “sound/feel expensive” isn’t the right way to put it, what I’m saying is I’m just tired of having to put up with silly lines or straight up silly songs, especially at her age and stage in her career. I don’t think vigilante **** or bejeweled or even karma are the worst offenders, I think duds like question (and Paris) should have never made it. 2 hours ago, G.U.Y_Del_Rey said: 1989 is almost basically this imo, only Bad Blood taints it (SIO is camp done well). Exactly, she’s done it before with folkmore and 1989. I will say her silly moment in 1989 is not even Bad Blood, it’s How You Get The Girl. That song literally serves no purpose (at least BB addresses some drama) 1 hour ago, LostInStereo100 said: I haven’t been super close following Taylor this era. Why is LH not smashing harder? It should be!! What is the current single or is it still AH? Well LH hasn’t been properly pushed, but I doubt it’s gonna become the smash people expect even if she pushes it hard 15 minutes ago, littlebodybigheart said: taylor has been writing silly songs her whole career. if you don’t like her putting campy songs in her albums maybe you just don’t like her as an artist but that’s clearly her vision for her albums. there are plenty of other artists to stan that don’t write campy lyrics but idk why you’d expect that from taylor swift. bejeweled and karma are also great pop songs. Girl there’s a difference between cleverly crafted camp songs like say Karma (which I mostly hate just that cat line) and straight up cringe **** like half of lover and reputation. Even smash hero has that odd sexy baby line. And I don’t even want to include songs from Red and before because she was younger so she gets a pass (Stay stay stay being the first one that comes to mind). She can release fully fleshed out albums without silly songs (folkmore), or if there is one then make it at least tolerable (BB and HYGTG on 1989). im just tired of random songs that should have been CUT from the album ruining that album’s run. Puta and lover would be much better pop albums if they were like 5 tracks shorter, Midnights wouldn’t drag in the middle had she not included question, bejeweled, and vigilante ****). She’s in her mid 30s and 10 albums in, time to drop the silly, badly done campy songs imo
Michael196 Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 discussing "classy pop albums" and mentioning a playlist that aged like milk as an example, when it got/is still getting carried by the endless singles which got shoved down the gp's throat for two years straight
Lemon Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, littlebodybigheart said: taylor has been writing silly songs her whole career. if you don’t like her putting campy songs in her albums maybe you just don’t like her as an artist but that’s clearly her vision for her albums. there are plenty of other artists to stan that don’t write campy lyrics but idk why you’d expect that from taylor swift. bejeweled and karma are also great pop songs. 1 hour ago, Starchild said: The funny thing is, they act like taylor makes campy songs when it's other girls that make their whole career out of awful camp she has 1-2 campy songs an album (I don't listen to lover) and even then she's getting way better at it. Karma and bejeweled are actually really good pop songs I agree with the music videos tho, the sketches need to at least be put at the end of the video or sumn Both these posts. People acting like Taylor’s goofy songs are American Pie level when they are Knives Out level of silliness actually. No offence. But she is actually that great because she doesn’t conceal both her positive nor negative sides and being dorky is authetnic to her. I mostly enjoy both her deeply self-relfection indulged songs ( This Is Me Trying ) and goofy ones ( Karma ) equally. Her camp is actually mature and done right for the most part. And real. Not being pretentious saying that, but it literally is her case.
JawBreaker Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 5 hours ago, idkwiam said: I saw Mr Togekiss spilled very hard today. Midnights isn't having a great stability on Spotify tbh. Multiple tracks are already doing lees than 200k daily which is already below MANY reputation / Lover / folkmore album tracks. How is 16m daily after 3 months not great stability? Folklore, Lover, Evermore, Red tv were all doing around 4-5m or less 3 months in. If Midnights is doing bad then that means those albums were BOMBING real hard As for those tracks doing 200k daily its expected from them considering they're bonus tracks for a reason...
State of Grace. Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 I think Karma and BejEWeled are camp-pop done RIGHT which is VERY rare for her glitter gel'd songs. Her personality on those songs is up there with 22, WANEGBT, etc. Vigilante Turd is the real enemy. A horrid addition in her discography. I personally don't really like this style of songs from her at all, with the exception of a few carefree bops and classics. I usually use the highs on each album and turn a blind eye on the rest nn. Maybe it's more obvious this time because of the way she marketed the album with the visuals and moody introspective descriptions.
TaylorNation Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Teneo said: are you ready to die, swifties? Speak Now TV announcement??
mael Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 Enchanted (13 minute version)(Taylor's Version)(From The Vault)
JawBreaker Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 I think it should be clear by now that Taylor will always have those childish campy songs. That's basically her brand at this point. If u cant accept that. Maybe Taylor just isnt for u I personally dont mind them I actually like most of them. I dont think I wouldve decided to stan her if I didnt like them. Cuz she has a lot of them lol.
Holiest Dreams Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) “Midnights isn’t having great streaming stability” yet it’s literally been parked at 15.5-16M since Christmas ended I need some of you to BE serious. Edited January 22, 2023 by Holiest Dreams
By the Water Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 If Midnights isn't stable in streams I guess her other albums are all bombs
TaylenaStan Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Teneo said: are you ready to die, swifties? Is she moving on from mid? I relistened to SN (stolen version) and i need SN (TV) asap
lasthauntedkiss Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael196 said: discussing "classy pop albums" and mentioning a playlist that aged like milk as an example, when it got/is still getting carried by the endless singles which got shoved down the gp's throat for two years straight 😭
Starchild Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Michael196 said: discussing "classy pop albums" and mentioning a playlist that aged like milk as an example, when it got/is still getting carried by the endless singles which got shoved down the gp's throat for two years straight Right? The audacity
P!NK2LOVE Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Steve Johnson said: So fake. No, they’re genuinely like this all the time. I’ve watched all their videos, this is them and I personally love it! They’re making BANK too, so
BloodLuster Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 17 hours ago, P!NK2LOVE said: You guys been watching these? The outro being her living with how dark (red) the Red/TV eras are to her how she just accepts how it scarred her Maroon being dark RED omfg Maroon is THAT BITCHHH I think they're nice and cute girls, reminds me of old school Ajayii. and the fact that they're turning into Lana stans makes me like them even more
youreyesgocold Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 The takes in here are always so shocking to me like Taylor’s comedy and camp is fine and she uses it sparingly. Just because folklore is her best album (imo) doesn’t mean she needs to be so serious all the time Sure, some are duds (Stay Stay Stay, Vigilante Sh*t, ME!). But I personally love songs like HYGTG, YNTCD, KOMH, Karma, Bejeweled, etc. and even the duds are still good enough that I will often let them play when they come on shuffle and sing along. I’m not saying you have to love everything she does, but if you don’t get her sense of comedy that’s honestly tough luck for you because being dorky / silly / catty has literally been a big part of her persona since Debut - it’s not going away
Chartman Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Isn‘t it amazing whenever Taylor does something, she is quickly compared to the biggest things going on at the moment, or the biggest things accomplished in music history? Taylor releases a lead single. Stays 8 weeks at #1 and breaks the first day Spotify record. Over the weeks we saw comparisons with AIW and EOM, the biggest hits of the new decade. Taylor released an album and it broke the all time Spotify daily and weekly record. From this point onwards people compared it for weeks to USVT and Sour, the biggest albums there are in the streaming world. Than there is the opening week on the Billboard 200 and people check if she can do once more a 1 Million opening. Since 2015 Taylor has been compared to Adeles opening weeks, the artist who holds record for the biggest opening week in history. Taylor announces she goes on tour. And people debate if she can break Ed Sheerans record, the ALL TIME RECORD. Or how big the tour is inflation adjusted. Taylor gets an AOTY nomination and people will debate if she can win it once again. Despite she already won 3 times and reached a historic mark. Others wish they had a single one. All this success and some people still think she could have even more success right now or doing bad desicions in her career. 17 years in the business.
P!NK2LOVE Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Chartman said: Isn‘t it amazing whenever Taylor does something, she is quickly compared to the biggest things going on at the moment, or the biggest things accomplished in music history? Taylor releases a lead single. Stays 8 weeks at #1 and breaks the first day Spotify record. Over the weeks we saw comparisons with AIW and EOM, the biggest hits of the new decade. Taylor released an album and it broke the all time Spotify daily and weekly record. From this point onwards people compared it for weeks to USVT and Sour, the biggest albums there are in the streaming world. Than there is the opening week on the Billboard 200 and people check if she can do once more a 1 Million opening. Since 2015 Taylor has been compared to Adeles opening weeks, the artist who holds record for the biggest opening week in history. Taylor announces she goes on tour. And people debate if she can break Ed Sheerans record, the ALL TIME RECORD. Or how big the tour is inflation adjusted. Taylor gets an AOTY nomination and people will debate if she can win it once again. Despite she already won 3 times and reached a historic mark. Others wish they had a single one. All this success and some people still think she could have even more success right now or doing bad desicions in her career. 17 years in the business. I want to pay them all a visit personally and set their houses on fire, they have literal worms for brains. Imagine if all the energy they put into hating the music industry was placed towards finding a job, a house, a friend, a gym (fatties, I can tell), a personality, etc. Its infuriating. But karma is the thunder, rattling their ground. Hehe.
littlebodybigheart Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: Girl there’s a difference between cleverly crafted camp songs like say Karma (which I mostly hate just that cat line) and straight up cringe **** like half of lover and reputation. Even smash hero has that odd sexy baby line. And I don’t even want to include songs from Red and before because she was younger so she gets a pass (Stay stay stay being the first one that comes to mind). She can release fully fleshed out albums without silly songs (folkmore), or if there is one then make it at least tolerable (BB and HYGTG on 1989). im just tired of random songs that should have been CUT from the album ruining that album’s run. Puta and lover would be much better pop albums if they were like 5 tracks shorter, Midnights wouldn’t drag in the middle had she not included question, bejeweled, and vigilante ****). She’s in her mid 30s and 10 albums in, time to drop the silly, badly done campy songs imo what i’m trying to tell you is that i don’t see billie eilish fans asking her for an album with high, soaring vocals and belting, etc…that’s just not what she serves as an artist and that’s fine. taylor has had this type of song on her albums since the start of her career and we’re all at least used to it so why ask her to change now? lol. that’s just not who she is. like you said before, dua lipa does what you think works perfectly so why not just listen to her and let taylor be the artist she wants to be?
MardinBeksloy Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 This thread is alive back from the dead woahhh. The era revival is upon us
Holiest Dreams Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Chartman said: Isn‘t it amazing whenever Taylor does something, she is quickly compared to the biggest things going on at the moment, or the biggest things accomplished in music history? Taylor releases a lead single. Stays 8 weeks at #1 and breaks the first day Spotify record. Over the weeks we saw comparisons with AIW and EOM, the biggest hits of the new decade. Taylor released an album and it broke the all time Spotify daily and weekly record. From this point onwards people compared it for weeks to USVT and Sour, the biggest albums there are in the streaming world. Than there is the opening week on the Billboard 200 and people check if she can do once more a 1 Million opening. Since 2015 Taylor has been compared to Adeles opening weeks, the artist who holds record for the biggest opening week in history. Taylor announces she goes on tour. And people debate if she can break Ed Sheerans record, the ALL TIME RECORD. Or how big the tour is inflation adjusted. Taylor gets an AOTY nomination and people will debate if she can win it once again. Despite she already won 3 times and reached a historic mark. Others wish they had a single one. All this success and some people still think she could have even more success right now or doing bad desicions in her career. 17 years in the business. Amazing post Should be in even BIGGER font because everyone who’s whinging about Midnights “only” doing 16M daily streams after three months or whatever needs to see this
Ms. Togekiss Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Lemon said: Both these posts. People acting like Taylor’s goofy songs are American Pie level when they are Knives Out level of silliness actually. No offence. But she is actually that great because she doesn’t conceal both her positive nor negative sides and being dorky is authetnic to her. I mostly enjoy both her deeply self-relfection indulged songs ( This Is Me Trying ) and goofy ones ( Karma ) equally. Her camp is actually mature and done right for the most part. And real. Not being pretentious saying that, but it literally is her case. You can’t look me in the eye and tell me songs like Gorgeous and ME (among others) are “mature” camp 36 minutes ago, littlebodybigheart said: what i’m trying to tell you is that i don’t see billie eilish fans asking her for an album with high, soaring vocals and belting, etc…that’s just not what she serves as an artist and that’s fine. taylor has had this type of song on her albums since the start of her career and we’re all at least used to it so why ask her to change now? lol. that’s just not who she is. like you said before, dua lipa does what you think works perfectly so why not just listen to her and let taylor be the artist she wants to be? Because she literally can’t? Vocal range being a physical limitation is actually quite different from conscientious decisions Taylor takes about her music that she shouldn’t do she can delete songs like gorgeous, me, etc from the final track list but chooses not to
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