official chart HDD: Bad Bunny 9x #1 102k, Demi #7 33k, Madonna #8 30k, Panic! At The Disco #10 28k

[Topaz]

1 minute ago, Freakshowvato said:

TAOSO has a billion streams, it'll get gold eventually. this idk

I really hope so. She has a lot of gems on that album. I just wish she cut some of the tracks off and made it like a 10-12 track really good album.

[Freakshowvato]

1 hour ago, liquiddiamonds said:

You need good management, and she has Braun, one of the best and most expensive in the business, which is not paid from ether either and is gettin a cut as producer on this record. If the money is coming from Demi she needs that tour (which is also for free by lovatic logic??) to sell and this album to perform well.

yeah his management company gets a % of the revenue lmao. why does any of this matter. you're very hypocritical. you aren't being paid by Demi, how about not worry about the profitability lmao. Demi is still selling records and doing OK in the streaming, album sales, and touring space. remember this is only USA, there's also Brazil, UK, etc.

 

Idk why we are in this thread overanalyizing how much Demi is making profits for everyone lmao.

 

1B+ streams on spotify per year is pretty profitable.

 

 

[BuzzCharts]

23 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said:

yes.... that's the point

with no playlisting it wouldn't lol

 

 

They could have put every song on TTH and it wouldn’t have done 50k

[Freakshowvato]

Just now, BuzzCharts said:

They could have put every song on TTH and it wouldn’t have done 50k

excuse me how do you know that exactly?

 

When TAOSO did 40K in streaming..... this is doing 11K..... i think TTH would help push it to 50K (and would generate more pure sales, it's a cyclic process)

[Freakshowvato]

the entitlement and ego in this thread is so funny lmao.

 

 

[BrokenMachine]

2 hours ago, ronald said:

#1. Here We Go Again — 109K
#2. Don't Forget — 89K
#2. Confident — 98K
#3. Demi — 110K
#4. Unbroken — 96K
#3. Tell Me You Love Me — 75K
#3. Dancing With The Devil — 74K

Just by looking at the peaks being 14 years into her career, it seems like she has gotten a pretty stable career. She's never been some kind of top female artist and her numbers are only declining now, 14 years after she started. Expecting an artist like Demi to compete with people like Miley, Selena, Ariana, Taylor, etc, all of them who are bigger than her numbers wise is just being out of touch (and yeah, I know some Demi stans compare them, but there is not comparison aside from numbers of specific songs).

3 hours ago, liquiddiamonds said:

Halsey sold 98k with an album as alternative as Demi’s and also with no hits.

Halsey is al alternative artist, Demi is pop. Also Halsey's career started 7 years after Demi's, and she's gotten bigger hits. There is no comparison in here

[Protocol]

Her last two albums have been so mismanaged starting with wasting a Grammy performance on the awful, tuneless "Anyone". "Still Have Me" should've been the 'ballad' single from that album, and then it was never even on the album. Wasted "What Other People Say", a great adult contemporary ballad, and wasted "Met Him Last Night", a catchy pop hit that could've been a moment for her.

[Thiago]

dwtd have 6 covers, ariana's collab, 22 songs and expanded edition in first week with many singles, was the combination of all that that made hit 70k, otherwise she would have done less (it literally charted only 8 weeks). I don't think there's much to be done in this era, it's best to try to invest in 29 and hope it works out.

[fridayteenage]

maybe demi should focus on tv.

 

will that country man's fans ever get tired of his album

[Kamil24]

wow great numbers

[Fetish for MiMi]

Tragic flop

[Nashe]

8 hours ago, Freakshowvato said:

I'm also surprised Demi is doing better than Camila when Camila had a global smash Bam Bam dominating streaming

Girl on which planet was Bam Bam a "global smash"?   

 

OT: This really ain't that bad, it's in line with Charli & Avril which she feels totally in line with these days.

 

This is without any charting hit, no major playlisting, no radio support and after a complete change in sound and visual presentation.

[KKCuteCat]

9 hours ago, Mr.Link said:

Not people calling 33k “not bad”. The bar is in hell. 

I was about to say so  

[Lovett]

Beyoncé showing stability!  We love to see it.

[SweetTalker]

Megan and Madonner  I’m actually impressed 

[Lover]

 

[Pink Ranger]

12 hours ago, By the Water said:

Demi bombed hard and still outsold Famila 

Whaaaat how much did Famila do? 

[Pink Ranger]

I predicted 20-30k so 33k is above my expectations 

[Lovett]

16 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said:

Whaaaat how much did Famila do? 

[winebaldo]

12 hours ago, By the Water said:

Demi bombed hard and still outsold Famila 

WHAT????? 

[Pink Ranger]

5 minutes ago, MrLovett said:

But Famila had major playlisting, radio deal for the lead etc 

[Bloodflowers.]

Madonna

[liquiddiamonds]

8 hours ago, Freakshowvato said:

yeah his management company gets a % of the revenue lmao. why does any of this matter. you're very hypocritical. you aren't being paid by Demi, how about not worry about the profitability lmao. Demi is still selling records and doing OK in the streaming, album sales, and touring space. remember this is only USA, there's also Brazil, UK, etc.

 

Idk why we are in this thread overanalyizing how much Demi is making profits for everyone lmao.

 

1B+ streams on spotify per year is pretty profitable.

 

 

We’re in the charts forum. We’re discussing numbers and the state of the career of pop girls. Why are you here all up in your feelings as if this is the album thread that has been hijacked by “haters”? You have THAT space to talk about how you love a work of art. As you must have seen i’m not trolling any of you there nor taking away from your enjoyment in the space to discuss the music. I’m not worried about Demi at all, who still has a big celebrity, but that’s not a static thing and unlike other pop girls she only has her music career to count on. If she’s out of hits and having a worse performance record by record at one point she won’t be able to sustain the status she’s used to having as a pop star and that will obviously impact what she gives to the fans. By your logic it’s like she doesn’t need a certain level of success to sustain her career as it is. I don’t think y’all have realized that the previous generation of popgirls were only seeing numbers as bad as these when they were reaching 40. If Demi has lost as much steam and she jusr reached 30 I do wonder what the future has for Demi as a pop star (as much as y’all want to paint her as an alt chick now she can just turn the corner and drop adult contemporary two years from now)
 

I’ve made my comment about her flopping and you started by not quoting but replying to my comment and you’ve been doing this to a lot of users that are leaving their opinions about the chart performance. I really don’t understand how we are at fault and going back and forth over calling a spade a spade. Lorde fans had the same longevity talk with Solar Power and we’ve seen how that went. Longevity is earned not bragged in the first week after flopping.

[liquiddiamonds]

8 hours ago, BrokenMachine said:

Halsey is al alternative artist, Demi is pop. Also Halsey's career started 7 years after Demi's, and she's gotten bigger hits. There is no comparison in here

Halsey is a pop artist. She’s been a pop artist from day one. She had an “alternative” come up because she was attached to the Lorde/tumblr aesthetic that was seen as “alt” by mainstream standards, but that was the beginning of a new pop sound era. Since Hopeless Fountain Kingdom she’s been 100% a pop artist, and a mostly GP carried one too with her big hits, so yeah doing 98k with an alternative/industrial record was impressive and a fair comparison to the alternative rock move that Demi has made - and the later has an arguably larger fanbase online going for them. H. had the advantage of coming from a strong era. 

[truthteller]

Mitski outcharted