1989 Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Madonna If Taylor chooses to actually visit more places on her next tour, she could potentially have more on this list.
808s Posted August 18, 2022 Posted August 18, 2022 Rihanna having more entries than touring forces Gaga and Swift?
Jjang Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 3:34 AM, Artur said: Madge is just 12 dates with over $10M Excited to see Gaga with more placements after the Chroma Ball numbers are out On 8/18/2022 at 4:20 AM, infrared said: Gaga Slayed with BTWB, coming back with Chromatica She makes a new entry at #41 with her new Chromatica ball Paris boxscore ($8,025,944)! The London dates failed to make an entry. I’ll update it when Im home.
Jjang Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BadMonster said: These numbers are fake... did you adjust for inflation again? cuz that's totally ridiculous, lmao How is it ridiculous? Literally every all time list (whether that be tour, or films) has adjusted for inflation numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_concert_tours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films_in_the_United_States_and_Canada#Adjusted_for_ticket-price_inflation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Highest-grossing_films_adjusted_for_inflation Unless you wanna argue that $100 has the same value in 2005 as it does in 2022. Edited August 19, 2022 by Jjang
Hurem Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Jjang said: How is it ridiculous? Literally every all time list (whether that be tour, or films) has adjusted for inflation numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_concert_tours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films_in_the_United_States_and_Canada#Adjusted_for_ticket-price_inflation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Highest-grossing_films_adjusted_for_inflation Unless you wanna argue that $100 has the same value in 2005 as it does in 2022. No one ever says Gone With The Wind is highest grossing movie because no one takes the “adjusted for inflation” chart as the relevant one There’s always an asterisk with data that is adjusted for inflation.
Jjang Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Hurem said: No one ever says Gone With The Wind is highest grossing movie because no one takes the “adjusted for inflation” chart as the relevant one There’s always an asterisk with data that is adjusted for inflation. It holds the Guinness world record for the highest grossing movie of all time. It's the correct way of reviewing these things. Inflation is not something to agree or disagree on - it's how the economy works. Quote Because of the long-term effects of inflation, notably the significant increase of movie theater ticket prices, the list unadjusted for inflation gives far more weight to later films. The unadjusted list, while commonly found in the press, is therefore largely meaningless for comparing films widely separated in time, as many films from earlier eras will never appear on a modern unadjusted list, despite achieving higher commercial success when adjusted for price increases. To compensate for the devaluation of the currency, some charts make adjustments for inflation, but not even this practice fully addresses the issue, since ticket prices and inflation do not necessarily parallel one another. For example, in 1970, tickets cost $1.55 or about $6.68 in inflation-adjusted 2004 dollars; by 1980, prices had risen to about $2.69, a drop to $5.50 in inflation-adjusted 2004 dollars. Ticket prices have also risen at different rates of inflation around the world, further complicating the process of adjusting worldwide grosses. The measuring system for gauging a film's success is based on unadjusted grosses, mainly because historically this is the way it has always been done because of the practices of the film industry: the box-office receipts are compiled by theaters and relayed to the distributor, which in turn releases them to the media. Hope that makes things clearer for you. Edited August 19, 2022 by Jjang
Hurem Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 43 minutes ago, Jjang said: It holds the Guinness world record for the highest grossing movie of all time. It's the correct way of reviewing these things. Inflation is not something to agree or disagree on - it's how the economy works. Hope that makes things clearer for you. I’m well of aware of how inflation works, you’re unfortunately not aware of how movie industry works. No one (except Guinness’ book of world records, I guess ) will say Gone With The Wind is the biggest movie of all time. Everyone knows it’s Avatar, but we all know why you prefer the adjusted numbers
Jjang Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, Hurem said: I’m well of aware of how inflation works, you’re unfortunately not aware of how movie industry works. No one (except Guinness’ book of world records, I guess ) will say Gone With The Wind is the biggest movie of all time. Everyone knows it’s Avatar, but we all know why you prefer the adjusted numbers "Except Guinness' book of world records, I guess" - as if it's some obscure site and not the most referenced and known records book ever with sales of hundred of millions of copies Those who care will know to adjust for inflation because it's the correct way, and those who don't won't. Obviously it matters enough to be mentioned in every list. Why are you so pressed a charts thread is accurately reviewing its numbers?
Madonno Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Hurem said: I’m well of aware of how inflation works, you’re unfortunately not aware of how movie industry works. No one (except Guinness’ book of world records, I guess ) will say Gone With The Wind is the biggest movie of all time. Everyone knows it’s Avatar, but we all know why you prefer the adjusted numbers Go back to school girl, inflation is taked into account in every aspect of our life. Poor little thing
Hurem Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jjang said: "Except Guinness' book of world records, I guess" - as if it's some obscure site and not the most referenced and known records book ever with sales of hundred of millions of copies Those who care will know to adjust for inflation because it's the correct way, and those who don't won't. Obviously it matters enough to be mentioned in every list. Why are you so pressed a charts thread is accurately reviewing its numbers? 12 minutes ago, Madonno said: Go back to school girl, inflation is taked into account in every aspect of our life. Poor little thing So why was Avengers vs. Avatar such big topic of discussion back in 2019? And why did no mention Gone With The Wind when talking about biggest movies? Oh right, because no one cares about adjusted numbers. OGHs being so transparent every damn time
Sahn Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 The way Madonna had/has/will have the girls by the neck for decades.
Jjang Posted August 19, 2022 Author Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hurem said: So why was Avengers vs. Avatar such big topic of discussion back in 2019? And why did no mention Gone With The Wind when talking about biggest movies? Oh right, because no one cares about adjusted numbers. OGHs being so transparent every damn time Not you making this about Gaga I should have known. She’s still far behind Madonna in non adjusted gross too if that clears some things up. Both adjusted and non adjusted figures are used. The non adjusted is what press releases use, the adjusted is what analysts use. deal Its a charts thread dedicated to reviewing the more accurate comparative numbers. Feel free to have the “what does the GP care for more” conversation with your friends. Edited August 19, 2022 by Jjang
Madonno Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Hurem said: So why was Avengers vs. Avatar such big topic of discussion back in 2019? And why did no mention Gone With The Wind when talking about biggest movies? Oh right, because no one cares about adjusted numbers. OGHs being so transparent every damn time OGH? What's that? Anyway, you can find both list. Highest grossing movies nominal and adjusted. Just keep suffering. Maybe eat a candy, don't know
John Slayne Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 not Madonna being half of this list just wait for the GH tour, she's about to dominate even harder
Madonno Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 15 hours ago, BadMonster said: it doesn't have the same value for a lot of things, but concert tickets in general haven't increased in price much. Only certain artists started asking a bit more cuz they've become bigger names over the past decade, but in general prices haven't changed much FALSE. And Madonna´s Stcky & Sweet tour gross is more remarcable because it was in years with deflation, the only years (since 1997) when prices went down a lot. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-10/concerts-are-more-expensive-than-ever-and-fans-keep-paying-up#:~:text=The average price of a,prices have far outpaced inflation. The average price of a ticket to the 100 most popular tours in North America has almost quadrupled over the past two decades, from $25.81 in 1996 to $91.86 through the first half of this year, according to researcher Pollstar. Along with pro sports and Broadway shows, concert prices have far outpaced inflation. And this is from 2019... prices are higher now So yes, prices have changed a lot. Almost QUADRUPLED....
Xtripped Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 Madonna I feel Beyonce's next tour will be MASSIVE.
Rotunda Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 7:41 AM, Hurem said: No one ever says Gone With The Wind is highest grossing movie because no one takes the “adjusted for inflation” chart as the relevant one There’s always an asterisk with data that is adjusted for inflation. I have actually heard people say that
Jjang Posted August 21, 2022 Author Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) On 8/20/2022 at 6:29 AM, Madonno said: FALSE. And Madonna´s Stcky & Sweet tour gross is more remarcable because it was in years with deflation, the only years (since 1997) when prices went down a lot. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-10/concerts-are-more-expensive-than-ever-and-fans-keep-paying-up#:~:text=The average price of a,prices have far outpaced inflation. The average price of a ticket to the 100 most popular tours in North America has almost quadrupled over the past two decades, from $25.81 in 1996 to $91.86 through the first half of this year, according to researcher Pollstar. Along with pro sports and Broadway shows, concert prices have far outpaced inflation. And this is from 2019... prices are higher now So yes, prices have changed a lot. Almost QUADRUPLED.... I'm pretty sure 2008-2009 were recession years, too. On 8/20/2022 at 7:15 AM, Rotunda said: I have actually heard people say that ikr Edited August 21, 2022 by Jjang
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