ClashAndBurn Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 12 hours ago, LustSpell said: The way her homophobic and transphobic history never stood right with me Did you ever apply this standard to Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/14/2022 at 9:51 AM, Communion said: Sis, it's literally one person. Why are you afraid to @ them? @rihannabiggestfan Now, I respect the good sis to have any views they want and we agree on several topics. But I have a feeling they'll disagree with your decision to label them a "leftist" and place that label on them given that they have made it explicitly clear that they're personally both "anti-communist" and "anti-socialism". In fact, that would make them largely no different to your kind of liberalism, no? Now I don't claim to know why liberals in their various shades support or don't support Tulsi. All I do remember is that it was "Bernie or Bust" for a reason. I like many leftists voted in 2020 for the only candidate who supported M4A and thankfully it was neither Biden or Tulsi or Warren or Trump or whoever have you. If they/them is referring to me, then that's definitely not true hopefully you mean Tulsi On 8/14/2022 at 10:40 PM, ClashAndBurn said: Did you ever apply this standard to Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama? No, because they're the neoliberal establishment and their propaganda (including on mainstream media) has clearly been effective on some I find it funny that neolibs stan absolute trash like Liz Cheney, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Hillary, Biden, Obama, Pelosi, etc yet come for Tulsi It would be valid for Bernie supporters to come after her, but neolib/neocon stans? I know you know this, but to others: those establishment warmongers are not our friends and ultimately both parties are bad as a whole. I'd rather someone SOMETIMES serve anti-establishment/populist viewpoints than someone never do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 19, 2022 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2022 Literally one person on this forum likes her and y’all keep pretending otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckinglovato Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Wait so you're telling me that the Bernie ally who "sank" Kamala's campaign ended up out of congress & on Fox News, with Bernie losing presidential primaries TWICE While Kamala is... Vice President? Aw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, heckinglovato said: Wait so you're telling me that the Bernie ally who "sank" Kamala's campaign ended up out of congress & on Fox News, with Bernie losing presidential primaries TWICE While Kamala is... Vice President? Aw I mean... Biden actively choosing the least electable Democrat in the country to be his running-mate and successor doesn't change the fact that her presidential primary run was an absolute failure even though she was hyped as the next Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton-level superstar. And part of that failure was due to Tulsi publicly exposing her abhorrent record as a prosecutor locking up black parents for smoking weed while she was laughing about smoking weed in college during her interview on Breakfast Club with Charlemagne Tha God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckinglovato Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, ClashAndBurn said: I mean... Biden actively choosing the least electable Democrat in the country to be his running-mate and successor doesn't change the fact that her presidential primary run was an absolute failure even though she was hyped as the next Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton-level superstar. And part of that failure was due to Tulsi publicly exposing her abhorrent record as a prosecutor locking up black parents for smoking weed while she was laughing about smoking weed in college during her interview on Breakfast Club with Charlemagne Tha God. You mean the highly debunked claims that tulsi gabbard (ex-congresswoman) made about the current Vice President of the United States Kamala Harris? The claims that cited a number of prosecuted individuals from a shady conservative source, and falsely claimed that Kamala prosecuted marijuana cases as AG (those cases would not have been handled by the AG but lower level prosecutors) during a time where it was literally illegal in California to smoke and sell marijuana (aka it was the AG's job to uphold the law)? Among other misleading, out-of-context and debunked claims? I guess homophobic & islamophobic presidential candidates who lie on national television end up being nowhere near the White House (or congress, for that matter) but on Fox News, their allies (bernie) also end up nowhere near the White House, yet the ones smeared (Kamala) end up as VP, one heartbeat away from the presidency, and elevated to become one of the most recognized figures in American and global politics. But what do I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, heckinglovato said: You mean the highly debunked claims that tulsi gabbard (ex-congresswoman) made about the current Vice President of the United States Kamala Harris? The claims that cited a number of prosecuted individuals from a shady conservative source, and falsely claimed that Kamala prosecuted marijuana cases as AG (those cases would not have been handled by the AG but lower level prosecutors) during a time where it was literally illegal in California to smoke and sell marijuana (aka it was the AG's job to uphold the law)? Among other misleading, out-of-context and debunked claims? I guess homophobic & islamophobic presidential candidates who lie on national television end up being nowhere near the White House (or congress, for that matter) but on Fox News, their allies (bernie) also end up nowhere near the White House, yet the ones smeared (Kamala) end up as VP, one heartbeat away from the presidency, and elevated to become one of the most recognized figures in American and global politics. But what do I know! This has such weird energy since why would Tulsi choosing not to run for re-election have any impact on progressives? As well, "it was her job to uphold the law" is nonsense given that conservative Dems are running recall campaigns against progressive AGs who also are doing their jobs but using their knowledge to interpret the law in a progressive way. Why is it fine for Kamala to interpret the law in a regressive way and we should respect how someone does their job by nature of it being someone doing their job - yet the sake isn't extended to progressives also doing their jobs how they see fit? I honestly can't imagine the kind of pathway in life that would lead someone to be a reactionary who protects the interests of the affluent classes. You're hyped up to argue with....people online who want healthcare? What? The constant emotional investments in elites and institutions that thinking Kamala being VP meant her harming black women was a good thing. Does black female pain bring you joy? Edited August 19, 2022 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) On 8/18/2022 at 8:41 PM, Bloo said: Literally one person on this forum likes her and y’all keep pretending otherwise. "Not an obsessed hater" doesn't mean "like" tho . Just because I hate establishment neolibs/neocons more doesn't mean I like her (she's out of my sig for a reason) and doesn't mean I can't agree with her sometimes, especially on anti-establishment points like Free Assange (even Bernie doesn't speak up about that, if I'm not mistaken) It's serving Bernie haters saying "Bernie stans Fidel Castro" when he said that he agreed with Castro on something. In Bernie's words, "the truth is the truth" https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/sanders-defends-castro-cuba-comments-cnntv/index.html Edited August 20, 2022 by rihannabiggestfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Literally only @rihannabiggestfan stans Tulsi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannabiggestfan Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Aren said: Literally only @rihannabiggestfan stans Tulsi I don't stan anymore, actually but if she says something that's correct, I will acknowledge it as correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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