abrahamjmr Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: Lol what? Examples? Beyonce was anything but alternative/political until very recently, when it became cool to do so. Very recently as in 2011? Because that's one of the many times she's been political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet Mars Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: Lol what? Examples? Beyonce was anything but alternative/political until very recently, when it became cool to do so. You're absolutely right! Back during the B'day era in 2006 Beyoncé wasn't flanked by two gay dancers in makeup for her Freakum Dress video. And in 2008 Beyoncé didn't have two effeminate gay dancers accompany her to dance to Single Ladies on the Tyra Banks show... But yes, Beyoncé started giving the gays props JUST recently. But go off. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrudenceHCharmed Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Safe&Sound said: HDD totally sets her up how many times did they overestimate debut number? there is no way Beyonce challenged Taylor and Adele in album sales I love the album but I know it's not for everyone To be honest, the vinyl isn't widely available and it didn't come with visual this time. She also refused to promote so...the number is still good tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTimberwolf Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Planet Mars said: You're absolutely right! Back during the B'day era in 2006 Beyoncé wasn't flanked by two gay dancers in makeup for her Freakum Dress video. And in 2008 Beyoncé didn't have two effeminate gay dancers accompany her to dance to Single Ladies on the Tyra Banks show... But yes, Beyoncé started giving the gays props JUST recently. But go off. Please. Is this the best you could do? A blink and you miss it music video moment, and a one off performance? Not sure why you mentioned Gaga at all, when this is nothing compared to Born This Way (an actual risk that harmed her career). Beyonce was never some gay rights advocate and that's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopNStuff Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 She still has one of the best debuts this year, and another one in the bag. Queen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planet Mars Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: Is this the best you could do? A blink and you miss it music video moment, and a one off performance? Not sure why you mentioned Gaga at all, when this is nothing compared to Born This Way (an actual risk that harmed her career). Beyonce was never some gay rights advocate and that's okay. You quoted me about queer references in her MUSIC and VIDEOS, I provided several examples, simple as that. Nobody asked you to move the goal post. Beyoncé is still one of the biggest gay icons to emerge out of the last 30 years. There's a reason she's consistently referenced by the Queens on Drag Race as an idol and influence. There's a reason her music is played non stop in gay clubs the world over and there is a reason gay men have always had an affinity to her, one EVERYBODY has noticed. And you're well aware of this, as we all are. At this point you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Edited August 8, 2022 by Planet Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzy13 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 HDD always try’s to appeal to stans even when they don’t have to lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyonce-Minaj Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Then there's this quote by her: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopMusicJunkie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Beyoncé has absolutely nothing to prove, especially sales-wise, but continues to exceed with her artistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemoR Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, BlueTimberwolf said: Lol what? Examples? Beyonce was anything but alternative/political until very recently, when it became cool to do so. Exactly lol, she's just following the trend. The gays were following her, and she was ignoring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyonce-Minaj Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) She was pro-LGBTQ+ during the B'Day era, in 2006, when it was taboo to embrace anyone who is classified under non-heterosexuality. It could've damaged her career, but she still opted to take the risk. In Freakum Dress, one of the backup dancers was effeminate. That aside, my understanding was that HDD FALSELY believed that the vinyl and CD sales would be included in the 1st week, but for some odd logistical reason those were NOT registered and computed for the album debut week? Consequently: it can be argued that she does, in fact, technically have 500k or above in 1st week sales. I wonder if there's anyway we can truly figure out if that's actually the case. If the numbers for the 2nd week are suspiciously enormous, then we can logically deduce that PART of said number should have been computed the week prior. The only issue is, how do we mathematically guestimate the said amount that should've been applied for the 1st week? Can anyone confirm or debunk this whole fiasco? Edited August 8, 2022 by Beyonce-Minaj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe&Sound Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: To be honest, the vinyl isn't widely available and it didn't come with visual this time. She also refused to promote so...the number is still good tho. Yes. The number is good indeed Imagine 20+ years in her career and still on par with Kendrick, Abel, Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, TeemoR said: Exactly lol, she's just following the trend. The gays were following her, and she was ignoring them. It's hard to ignore them when you're featuring them in your music videos and live performances. But you know that, you just wanted a bit of attention. So here you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BnPac Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 hours ago, BlueTimberwolf said: Lol what? Examples? Beyonce was anything but alternative/political until very recently, when it became cool to do so. LOL! You had examples provided and you still moved the goal post. B'Day was the gayest albums. She was also called a Satan that is trying to turn black men gay by people in the black community but that's another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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