The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, P!NK2LOVE said: It’s wrong, period. But you’re right that’s between him and God. I'd be interested in learning why, precisely, you think he is doing something wrong.
Rainy Devil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 Jesus. The lack of self respect. When someone asks I'm just gonna say I'm asexual.
brazil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: But the men that he is sleeping with are also consenting to taking that same risk. Whether or not he can be officially classified as a sex addict is another discussion. He's not just putting those men at risk though. Although its more commonly transmitted through sexual enconters, monkepox doesn't require sex to be transmitted.
Vermillion Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 The jury's still out in official classification of sex addiction being a real diagnosis according to most international bodies. I've still not read a single solid argument here about reputational harm from one porn star on an entire community that's more than anecdotal. If you have the data, feel free to bring it. If the practices of this one person brings you shame, fine, I'm not discounting that at all. Again, those cultural and legal figures shaming gay men would be and have been making the same arguments regardless of the actions of one easy escapegoat of a sex worker and more importantly, regardless of the stats on the spread of monkeypox through sexual activity of MSM. Where is the data that shame on social media from within the community is going to accomplish anything? It's a way to make people doing it feel like they're accomplishing something. It's all performative and nothing's going to change. All of this self-righteous energy is performative and isn't going to actually do anything. You know who can do something that can be shamed with possible results where this energy could be redirected? The feds for allowing a monopoly in the production of a vaccine that means because of one broken-down plant in the States the FDA/CDC have to rely on one plant in Denmark from Jynneos where they didn't order a bigger stockpile months ago which is why hundreds of thousands of MSM have been trying to get vaccines and can't. Everything else is empty noise. The sex workers are going to continue having orgies during a pandemic. We learned that during the AIDS crisis, which was even more of an actual death sentence for many. Gay Twitter, a miniscule part of the gay community by the way despite their self-proclaimed influence, can gnash their teeth in defense or in loathing of this one easy scapegoat which doesn't actually fix. anything. The ONLY thing not just anecdotally but statistically from data during the AIDS crisis that will stop any gay sex worker from having an orgy during this monkeypox public health emergency designation is if MSM start dying from monkeypox. Period. Otherwise the behavior will not change. Again, everything else, including many of the posts here, is unproductive, naive, noise.
Theshigo Washidu Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 12 hours ago, IWantASoda35 said: Gay men are…nvm. Can’t have anymore wp
The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, brazil said: He's not just putting those men at risk though. Although its more commonly transmitted through sexual enconters, monkepox doesn't require sex to be transmitted. That then begs the question what it is that he is doing wrong that others aren't. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. Could have contracted it and spread it there too. Why are we then ridiculing him and calling him mentally ill?
Robyn. Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, ninasayers said: the self hate comes from all the users equating being gay with being "disgusting", hope that clears it up for you. You're mad at the people who don't want to be associated with this kind of activity, rather than the gay who claims that drinking urine is casual "gay sex"? You're focusing on the wrong battle but alright.
brazil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: That then begs the question what it is that he is doing wrong that others aren't. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. Could have contracted it and spread it there too. Why are we then ridiculing him and calling him mentally ill? I'm not attacking him or condoning attacks, but his behaviors are considered a bigger risk spreader therefore he should be more conscious. Even if only transmitted through sex, he still have a moral obligation to recognize he can expose others to the disease. Just because someone have unprotected sex doesn't mean they deserve to get a DST and if everyone was more conscious of that and of others rather than just putting whatever sexual desire they have first, this could've been contained.
brazil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Robyn. said: You're mad at the people who don't want to be associated with this kind of activity, rather than the gay who claims that drinking urine is casual "gay sex"? You're focusing on the wrong battle but alright. Nobody is equating that to casual gay sex, and straights also have urine kinks. That's not exclusive to gays, I just did a quick Google images search for "urine porn" and all the images are of straight sex.
Steve Jobs Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 I’m the first to say that having orgies at the peak of monkeypox is not a good idea AT ALL, but jesus christ the comments here are more vile than ever. Bunch of insecure prudes that clutch their pearls whenever sex is mentioned. Trust me that 90% of the replies here would be the exact same about this tweet even if monkeypox was NOT a thing.
The7thStranger Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, brazil said: I'm not attacking him or condoning attacks, but his behaviors are considered a bigger risk spreader therefore he should be more conscious. Even if only transmitted through sex, he still have a moral obligation to recognize he can expose others to the disease. Just because someone have unprotected sex doesn't mean they deserve to get a DST and if everyone was more conscious of that and of others rather than just putting whatever sexual desire they have first, this could've been contained. Or if people could get the vaccine if there are truly so worried about it. Why should anybody have to worry about the protection of others if they don't want to protect themselves? If I spread it after having sex with one person, does that also make me a bad person? I'm sorry, but these arguments simply don't hold water.
Robyn. Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, brazil said: Nobody is equating that to casual gay sex, and straights also have urine kinks. That's not exclusive to gays, I just did a quick Google images search for "urine porn" and all the images are of straight sex. Except the tweets in the OP are. Opening up about drinking piss in a orgy then proceeding to say "you can't stop us from having sex" is sending out the wrong message. People will assume it's a common practice when it's not. That's what I was referring to.
Vermillion Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Robyn. said: Except the tweets in the OP are. Opening up about drinking piss in a orgy then proceeding to say "you can't stop us from having sex" is sending out the wrong message. People will assume it's a common practice when it's not. That's what I was referring to. Where are the stats on this? Not just anecdotally. The people who assume one sex worker drinking piss from dozens represents all gay men aren't going to change their position because Gay Twitter is wringing their hands. Statistically, shaming them on social media isn't going to work in terms of their sexual practices either which we saw during the AIDS crisis, unless deaths actually start happening from monkeypox and only then.
MonsterTown Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 16 hours ago, americanlife said: Disgusting man. People like him are making everything worse and contributing to misinformation. Now people think monkeypox is a "gay disease" and an STD, just like HIV. actually this, they are saying that on the news in my country
Robyn. Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, InventedGays said: That is in no way equating what he is doing to casual/normal gay sex. That is how you are choosing to interpret it because you have a narrative you want it to fit. That's exactly how people will see it, and you know it damn well lmao There's already enough prejudice against gays, and acting like those type of tweets are doing us any good is called denial. But you guys want to play devil's advocate so argue with the wall, truly.
Аshanti Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: Or if people could get the vaccine if there are truly so worried about it. Why should anybody have to worry about the protection of others if they don't want to protect themselves? If I spread it after having sex with one person, does that also make me a bad person? I'm sorry, but these arguments simply don't hold water. a) the vaccine ain't available yet in a lot of big metro areas (where these piss parties take place), but that's what I read here b) if you can't go for a couple of weeks without piss orgies, then there's definitely something wrong with you Stop defending THAT, like...
Vermillion Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, DockDock said: actually this, they are saying that on the news in my country Are they citing the sex worker in question or just insinuating monkeypox is a "gay disease". These are two different arguments.
Chemist Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, Steve Jobs said: I’m the first to say that having orgies at the peak of monkeypox is not a good idea AT ALL, but jesus christ the comments here are more vile than ever. Bunch of insecure prudes that clutch their pearls whenever sex is mentioned. Trust me that 90% of the replies here would be the exact same about this tweet even if monkeypox was NOT a thing. Drinking the urine of 50 strangers is more shocking than getting the pox
brazil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: Or if people could get the vaccine if there are truly so worried about it. Why should anybody have to worry about the protection of others if they don't want to protect themselves? If I spread it after having sex with one person, does that also make me a bad person? I'm sorry, but these arguments simply don't hold water. I'm sorry but your arguments are equivalent to the people in April 2020 trying to equate going to get groceries to going to illegal rave parties. Of course the risk in one is greater than the other and trying to equate both is nonsensical. I'm not even saying this as someone who haven't had sex since the monkeypox outbreak started or that some months in the pandemic wasn't tired of covid rules, but I recognize these as my own shortcomings and the risk you pur yourself and others in when engaging in whatever activity can be very distinctive.
MonsterTown Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Espresso said: Are they citing the sex worker in question or just insinuating monkeypox is a "gay disease". These are two different arguments. gay sex, anyway i have to rewatch that cuz i just saw on tv i am waiting for catch on social media or whatever.
Steve Jobs Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 Just now, Chemist said: Drinking the urine of 50 strangers is more shocking than getting the pox I’m not into piss play either but some people are and they’re not hurting anyone. Nobody is trying to piss into anyones mouth without their consent
Robyn. Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, InventedGays said: No one is playing devils advocate. Congrats on admitting you align your views with right wing people that are going to assume the worst about gays whether they are having orgies or not blaming a gay persons tweets for how all gay people are viewed is sad and placing the anger on the wrong party. Saying you can be gay but only if you are a "clean" gay that follows rules set by straight people to have "normal" sex & relationships is very basic homophobic tactics. Especially when straight people do this **** too You're reaching for the stars with this one, aren't you? I'm not blaming a gay person's tweet specifically, I'm blaming how he PHRASED his thoughts which can definitely come off as misleading. I don't care about someone's kinks, you're free to do whatever you want. But don't open up about your sexual practices and then speak in the name of an entire community talking about "you're not stopping US from having sex" after admitting drinking piss from a dozen guys. There's no us sis, you're on your own. Plus, I find it so funny how you assume that a gay man having "normal" sex relationship is playing by the rules. Have you ever considered that these gays actually like having traditional sexual relationships and are not pretending? You think hypersexuality is so normal to the point having conventional relationships equates to "trying to be accepted by the straights" according to you.
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