A Bomb Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 Dave Rubin’s career ruined. We truly got a hint of this new wave of homophobia when “kink at pride” was an issue that was being pushed. The way gays fell for that propaganda to end up here. Tragic.
nadiamendell Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) Yep. And this was Trump last night in Tampa: Quote Former President Donald Trump said that the conservative movement must “liberate America’s children” from the “sick” educational system during a speech at Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit. Trump called on “young conservative activists to help finally and completely smash the radical left corrupt education establishment.” The former President also noted that the current education regime would rather teach students that men could be pregnant than biblical lessons. Trump said: The current educational system is so sick. That school prayers is banned and drag shows are allowed and all sorts of things are happening. We have some great politicians in this country that are finding it very hard and we love them. You can’t teach the Bible but you can teach children that America is evil and that men can get pregnant. A man can get pregnant. Can’t even talk about the Bible. Trump also said, “You would not trust these people to babysit your children for 20 minutes.” Trump predicted that America would be “in a very sad state” if its education system is not reformed: And why should we then let them educate millions of American students six hours a day, year after year after year. Whatever it takes, the conservative movement must liberate America’s children from the captivity of these boxes, teachers, unions, what they’re doing to our children and to our country is incredible. “This is a matter of national survival if we don’t fix this country is going to be in a very sad state,” he continued. He also called for a “strict prohibition” on racial and sexual teaching in the classrooms. Trump said: Our country has never been in a position like this before – happened all in a short period of time across the United States. We need to implement strict prohibitions on teaching inappropriate racial, sexual and political material to America’s children in any form. He also pledged to “keep men out of women’s sports,” alluding to the nationwide debate about transgender athletes competing in women’s sports. Source The right is really pushing this anti-queer rhetoric and Trump is going to lead the charge this next election season. Adding monkeypox to this is basically creating a perfect storm for them and I'm honestly really scared where this is going to lead. Edited July 24, 2022 by nadiamendell
americanlife Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 The media, WHO and CDC did this. They said that it was a gay disease, so that's what people are going to think.
Elusive Chanteuse Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, americanlife said: The media, WHO and CDC did this. They said that it was a gay disease, so that's what people are going to think. !!!!
ThehushSound Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 The way society is repeating the 20th century over the course of 2 1/2 years.
James_Dean Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 So when conservatives start contracting and displaying this "gay disease" -then what?
ninasayers Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) It was so incredibly obvious that this is the way it would turn out... Edited July 25, 2022 by ninasayers
Vermillion Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, Ascareus Kratos said: What is the R0 for this monkeypox? Great question. It's not clear, because the most recent epidemiological modeling studies I'm seeing Google links to are from 2020, even when referenced in published pieces in scientific journals from just two weeks ago. The most recent from 2020 had it between 1.10 and 2.40 in countries where exposure is considered "negligible": LINK However, Andrea McCollum, the poxvirus epidemiology team lead in the CDC's division of high consequence pathogens and pathology, told medical news outlet Stat last week: "We don't really have any estimates of R-naught for the West African clade. Most of our estimates come from Congo Basin. And most of those estimates are less than 1": LINK
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, americanlife said: The media, WHO and CDC did this. They said that it was a gay disease, so that's what people are going to think. Yeah, they shouldn't have done that. (It's like ... why would you do that? Hillary's pied piper strategy to try to get Trump to be the 2016 Republican nominee teas)
CandleGuy Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 96% of current cases are in men who have sex with other men. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/18/monkeypox-gay-men-deserve-unvarnished-truth/ It's not technically an STI but is most often spread through sexual contact. I imagine in the case of young children it could also spread from contact with parents. It's not a "gay disease" in the same way AIDS isn't technically a gay disease but we in the gay community need to get our **** together in taking it seriously and doing more to stop the spread.
Archetype Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, rihannabiggestfan said: Hillary's pied piper strategy to try to get Trump to be the 2016 Republican nominee teas You have an unhealthy obsession with her… @OP They spun the wheel of “Marginalized Communities to Blame” and it landed on the gays this time
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Archetype said: You have an unhealthy obsession with her… @OP They spun the wheel of “Marginalized Communities to Blame” and it landed on the gays this time It's a comparison. The point stands. AIDS is another comparison, albeit a less creative one 2 hours ago, ninasayers said: It was so incredibly obvious that this is the way it would turn out... Literally this, the media's messaging was abysmal
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: 96% of current cases are in men who have sex with other men. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/18/monkeypox-gay-men-deserve-unvarnished-truth/ It's not technically an STI but is most often spread through sexual contact. I imagine in the case of young children it could also spread from contact with parents. It's not a "gay disease" in the same way AIDS isn't technically a gay disease but we in the gay community need to get our **** together in taking it seriously and doing more to stop the spread. No one is even checking for it but gay men
Into The Void Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, CandleGuy said: 96% of current cases are in men who have sex with other men. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/18/monkeypox-gay-men-deserve-unvarnished-truth/ It's not technically an STI but is most often spread through sexual contact. I imagine in the case of young children it could also spread from contact with parents. It's not a "gay disease" in the same way AIDS isn't technically a gay disease but we in the gay community need to get our **** together in taking it seriously and doing more to stop the spread. My sex life has been dead since the pandemic so I aint spreading it
BGKC Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) This was expected. Be prepared for these bigots to come full force, demonizing the community in ways that take us back to the 80s. What really doesn’t help is the way I already seeing gay men turn this into a joke. I saw one TikTok where the guy in the vaccination line joked about it being full of gay men who were at the same sex party the night before. Im sure most of the men on that line were not, and he recorded all of these men who were just trying to be responsible and safe. It’s just so distasteful and embarrassing for the rest of the community who don’t participate in these type of parties/acts. No one takes anything serious anymore. Or the trite “I should be safe I’m on prep” jokes. Like stfu. Idc how pro-sex/promiscuity you are, but the addiction to risky sex even during an epi/pandmic is a disease in itself and to go as far as publicly joking about it when you can just keep it to yourself is whole other level of no shame or self respect. Edited July 25, 2022 by BGKC
Ascareus Kratos Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Espresso said: Great question. It's not clear, because the most recent epidemiological modeling studies I'm seeing Google links to are from 2020, even when referenced in published pieces in scientific journals from just two weeks ago. The most recent from 2020 had it between 1.10 and 2.40 in countries where exposure is considered "negligible": LINK However, Andrea McCollum, the poxvirus epidemiology team lead in the CDC's division of high consequence pathogens and pathology, told medical news outlet Stat last week: "We don't really have any estimates of R-naught for the West African clade. Most of our estimates come from Congo Basin. And most of those estimates are less than 1": LINK If the R0 is that significant lower than covid 19 Hopefully it is easier to manage.
RunUpDoneUp Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 I blame the left. We had decades to saturate our friends and families with facts; straight people are the number one sexual abuser on the planet in every country! Straight cisgender men are the number one abuser of cisgender women in every country! Straight men are the number one child molester in every country! But does the average person know that? NO. Does the average liberal point that out in contentious discourse or in debates with rigtwingers in their daily lives? NO. We have to do better, this having to react everytime conservatives do what they always do like we're new to this upsets ms to no end. They've been doing the same song and dance since before half of us were born and we're acting like some born yesterday children. When will we create something to use against them? Probably never. Conservatives deserve every victory with actual dumbass leftwingers that get defeated by actual dumb people that have no barring in reality like the American conservative. This sht is disgusting.
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