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[Thinking Of You]

The paragraphs in here. Halle Bailey will still be on the big screen next year in this movie. Nothing is going to change that. Like…

[PopMusicJunkie]

I really need this live-action remake to perform like Aladdin at the box-office.  There was so much hate about that movie leading up only to prove doubters wrong once released.  

[V$.]

9 hours ago, slik said:

I just want the scoop on MM as Ursula 

 

 

Me too 

[QueenBLadyG]

10 hours ago, flower moon said:

 

Disney's The Little Mermaid is based on a fairy tale written by a Danish author. There's even a statue of The Little Mermaid in Denmark that's like 100 years old

Why should a Dane not represent the main character of a Danish Story? Does representation not matter?

She's never described as being Danish at all.

 

9 hours ago, AxelFox said:

The race of the character is obiously irrelevant to the plot/setting and anyone could play Ariel in an adaptation of the story.

 

I think the issue here is that Ariel has been portrait, by Disney themselves, to look completely different for DECADES. Movies, spin offs, theme parks, toys, merchandise and much more. Them casting a black girl for a live action of it out of nowhere feels very forced and a lame attempt at woke points. What they gonna do moving forward, plaster a black face on the millions of Ariel merchandise being sold every year?

 

Had a different studio made their own adaptation of the classic story in which they casted a black girl it would've been a different story. But from Disney it feels ingenuine and exploitative. Not to mention, a company with so much money and resources should focus on creating new, interesting stories instead of riding the coattails of old established IPs.

 

Regardless, I'm excited to see Halle do the role and I'm sure she will nail the soundtrack, she has the perfect sublime tone for it

Actually it doesn't. The characters are surrounded by a colorful climate with reggae and calypso music. There's nothing white about that, it's obviously tropical - Danish author or not. And, that's why Disney cast a Black girl for the live action portrayal. 

 

And how dare you say "plaster a Black face on millions of merchandising" as if that's somehow an unlawful crime or disrespectful to the original. Not sure if you're aware how disgusting that reads. Get grip and get used the idea of a Black face being plastered all over media, toys, and merchandise, boo. It's already starting. Ariel is portrayed by a Black girl on the new luxury Disney Wish cruise line, beginning the transition and familiarity of a Black Ariel in parks and merchandise. 

Edited July 16, 2022 by QueenBLadyG

[Aethereal]

On 7/13/2022 at 5:17 PM, MrLovett said:

Atlantica is a fantasy kingdom in the ocean. You seriously need to get a grip.

Most Disney remakes sucked either way. Why is Ariel's race such a big deal? We have bigger issues to worry about. 

 

Edited July 16, 2022 by Aristotle

[AxelFox]

7 minutes ago, QueenBLadyG said:

She's never described as being Danish at all.

 

Actually it doesn't. The characters are surrounded by a colorful climate with reggae and calypso music. There's nothing white about that, it's obviously tropical - Danish author or not. And, that's why Disney cast a Black girl for the live action portrayal. 

 

And how dare you say "plaster a Black face on millions of merchandising" as if that's somehow an unlawful crime or disrespectful to the original. Not sure if you're aware how disgusting that reads. Get grip and get used the idea of a Black face being plastered all over media, toys, and merchandise, boo. It's already starting. Ariel is portrayed by a Black girl on the new luxury Disney Wish cruise line, beginning the transition and familiarity of a Black Ariel in parks and merchandise. 

I don't need to get used to it because I have no problem with Halle or any other girl of color playing the role of little mermaid, don't get me wrong. I was just questioning the reasoning behind Disney's approach to this specifically. 
 

Which brought me to my other point; Disney presented their version of Ariel as this for decades now: 

It has become an iconic design recognizable to a majority of the public and they probably have a ton of merchandise in production with it at this very moment - they're not gonna change it. I wasn't trying to say that them plastering a black face over it is offensive or I would be bothered by it, but that it's a scenario that is never gonna happen. I'm sorry if it came across in a different way. 
 

So it just doesn't make sense to me that they would present the same character in two different ways simultaneously, which is why I think they did it for woke points more than anything else. 
 

If they really care for representation why not do the Princess and The frog live action instead (which was a better movie and would translate better into a live action medium imo), or even better work on new captivating stories with poc leads? Idk I feel like this just brings unnecessary & unwarranted negativity not only towards the project but the actors as well. 

[Pink Ranger]

Regardless of peoples opinions I’m excited for it, I know MM is going to deliver as Ursula and Halle will hopefully do a great job as Ariel 

 

[QueenBLadyG]

3 hours ago, AxelFox said:

I don't need to get used to it because I have no problem with Halle or any other girl of color playing the role of little mermaid, don't get me wrong. I was just questioning the reasoning behind Disney's approach to this specifically. 
 

Which brought me to my other point; Disney presented their version of Ariel as this for decades now: 

It has become an iconic design recognizable to a majority of the public and they probably have a ton of merchandise in production with it at this very moment - they're not gonna change it. I wasn't trying to say that them plastering a black face over it is offensive or I would be bothered by it, but that it's a scenario that is never gonna happen. I'm sorry if it came across in a different way. 
 

So it just doesn't make sense to me that they would present the same character in two different ways simultaneously, which is why I think they did it for woke points more than anything else. 
 

If they really care for representation why not do the Princess and The frog live action instead (which was a better movie and would translate better into a live action medium imo), or even better work on new captivating stories with poc leads? Idk I feel like this just brings unnecessary & unwarranted negativity not only towards the project but the actors as well. 

They will be merchandising Ariel from the live action film in all parks and stores, and they didn't do it because they're being "woke". They did because they're using common sense and realizing that they should've never made her white to begin with, considering the locations and music represented in the film. We all know why most characters are portrayed white in media and its disgusting and narcissistic. That's changing and its not going to stop. I'd advise you not get your panties in a twist labeling every time a minority is front and center in a role originally portrayed by a white person as, "woke", because history put a white face front and forward every time unfairly.

 

And, they are producing a live action Princess and the Frog. So, you have something to look forward to.

Edited July 16, 2022 by QueenBLadyG

[Da Vinci]

3 hours ago, AxelFox said:

I don't need to get used to it because I have no problem with Halle or any other girl of color playing the role of little mermaid, don't get me wrong. I was just questioning the reasoning behind Disney's approach to this specifically. 
 

Which brought me to my other point; Disney presented their version of Ariel as this for decades now: 

It has become an iconic design recognizable to a majority of the public and they probably have a ton of merchandise in production with it at this very moment - they're not gonna change it. I wasn't trying to say that them plastering a black face over it is offensive or I would be bothered by it, but that it's a scenario that is never gonna happen. I'm sorry if it came across in a different way. 
 

So it just doesn't make sense to me that they would present the same character in two different ways simultaneously, which is why I think they did it for woke points more than anything else. 
 

If they really care for representation why not do the Princess and The frog live action instead (which was a better movie and would translate better into a live action medium imo), or even better work on new captivating stories with poc leads? Idk I feel like this just brings unnecessary & unwarranted negativity not only towards the project but the actors as well. 

 

There's been racebent iconic Marvel characters like Nick Fury who's been white in many cartoons, video games, toys, etc. for decades.

A black Ariel can coexist with the white Ariel, she just needs to have red hair and a green tail.

[Da Vinci]

Regarding the Denmark accuracy or whatever first of all, it's not even set in Denmark anymore lol

And even if it was, Ariel could just be regarded as a foreigner

 

In the Aladdin live action, Genie's human form was a black man and there was even a white prince character and they could freely roam around a Middle Eastern country in ancient times and no one bats an eyelash, they're seen as just some foreigners (which is probably what happened in real life back in those days)

 

And why is there no anger at Prince Eric's actor not being Danish or Ursula's actress not being Danish

Which shouldn't even matter cause it's a fantasy/fairytale movie not a historical biopic  

[qurl]

imagine revealing ur deep seeded frustrations with the advancement of diversity over the little mermaid  this person in the 90s would have been screeching that Brandy shouldn’t be allowed to play Cinderella because it’s an English fairy tale or whatever. also what, are there no black people at all in Denmark ??? literally what is the issue ?????

 

we’re talking about a MERMAID. A FANTASY CREATURE THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN REAL LIFE.

[orange22]

Some of y’all are not smart. Tell me who out there in the world sits down to watch The Little Mermaid and goes “I love this beautiful Danish story set in Denmark”??? Sebastian is Jamaican anyway so how do you explain that one? The Jamaican crab from Denmark?

[V$.]

9 hours ago, orange22 said:

Some of y’all are not smart. Tell me who out there in the world sits down to watch The Little Mermaid and goes “I love this beautiful Danish story set in Denmark”??? Sebastian is Jamaican anyway so how do you explain that one? The Jamaican crab from Denmark?

Tea. 

[Emir]

On 7/16/2022 at 7:19 PM, QueenBLadyG said:

They will be merchandising Ariel from the live action film in all parks and stores, and they didn't do it because they're being "woke". They did because they're using common sense and realizing that they should've never made her white to begin with, considering the locations and music represented in the film. We all know why most characters are portrayed white in media and its disgusting and narcissistic. That's changing and its not going to stop. I'd advise you not get your panties in a twist labeling every time a minority is front and center in a role originally portrayed by a white person as, "woke", because history put a white face front and forward every time unfairly.

 

And, they are producing a live action Princess and the Frog. So, you have something to look forward to.

I get your general argument, for which I agree, but to cite the music from the film as the reason for Ariel’s change of race doesn’t really land.
The calypso elements are representative of Sebastian the crab, not Ariel.  None of HER songs are calypso or have those associated elements, so I’m not sure how your reasoning justifies in this regard.

 

This isn’t a knock, I’m just having trouble following the logic there 

[QueenBLadyG]

1 hour ago, Emir said:

I get your general argument, for which I agree, but to cite the music from the film as the reason for Ariel’s change of race doesn’t really land.
The calypso elements are representative of Sebastian the crab, not Ariel.  None of HER songs are calypso or have those associated elements, so I’m not sure how your reasoning justifies in this regard.

 

This isn’t a knock, I’m just having trouble following the logic there 

Her songs specifically don't have to - the rest of the music does. I'm not surprised you would find it difficult to understand that. I literally repeated the creators reasons for picking Halle and making Ariel Black. No one cares whether you or anyone else agrees with that reasoning or not. They changed her race and cited the colorful tropical surroundings and calypso/reggae music as reasons for doing it. Get over it. Nothing about those is ethnically European or points to a white mermaid using common sense. Not to mention the Jamaican accented crab. 

Edited July 18, 2022 by QueenBLadyG

[Emir]

3 hours ago, QueenBLadyG said:

Her songs specifically don't have to - the rest of the music does. I'm not surprised you would find it difficult to understand that. I literally repeated the creators reasons for picking Halle and making Ariel Black. No one cares whether you or anyone else agrees with that reasoning or not. They changed her race and cited the colorful tropical surroundings and calypso/reggae music as reasons for doing it. Get over it. Nothing about those is ethnically European or points to a white mermaid using common sense. Not to mention the Jamaican accented crab. 

Precisely… the CRAB.  Anyway, I’m not sure why you’re losing your entire mind.  I already said I agreed with you, just that your logic behind ~racially driven musical origins was shoddy at best.

 

No need to mash your fingers against the phone in response, you’re obviously not equipped to have a reasoned discussion.

[QueenBLadyG]

2 hours ago, Emir said:

Precisely… the CRAB.  Anyway, I’m not sure why you’re losing your entire mind.  I already said I agreed with you, just that your logic behind ~racially driven musical origins was shoddy at best.

 

No need to mash your fingers against the phone in response, you’re obviously not equipped to have a reasoned discussion.

Yea, I'm "losing my entire mind" when you're the one who can't wrap your head around why they made a mermaid in a tropical climate and surrounded by calypso music, Black.

Edited July 18, 2022 by QueenBLadyG

[Emir]

11 hours ago, QueenBLadyG said:

Yea, I'm "losing my entire mind" when you're the one who can't wrap your head around why they made a mermaid in a tropical climate and surrounded by calypso music, Black.

are you…. Illiterate? Nowhere did I challenge the idea of Ariel being black.  
 

You’re so intent on creating a racial schism here when all I did was question your argument that the music (composed by 2 white men, I might add) necessitates a black mermaid.  Ariel can (and perhaps should) totally change races in the live adaptation, I have absolutely zero qualms about that, but I do however question your reasoning that her race should be black due to the so-called calypso elements from 2-3 of the 20 tracks on the soundtrack…. for which Ariel didn’t even provide vocals.

 

But alas here we are stuck in this pointless argumentative circle.  You can keep gaslighting to try and make this a race issue instead of the logical fallacy in your argument, I’m over this exchange.  Enjoy your misery ✌? 

[Horizon Flame]

These live-action Disney films are always a mess. 

[QueenBLadyG]

2 hours ago, Emir said:

are you…. Illiterate? Nowhere did I challenge the idea of Ariel being black.  
 

You’re so intent on creating a racial schism here when all I did was question your argument that the music (composed by 2 white men, I might add) necessitates a black mermaid.  Ariel can (and perhaps should) totally change races in the live adaptation, I have absolutely zero qualms about that, but I do however question your reasoning that her race should be black due to the so-called calypso elements from 2-3 of the 20 tracks on the soundtrack…. for which Ariel didn’t even provide vocals.

 

But alas here we are stuck in this pointless argumentative circle.  You can keep gaslighting to try and make this a race issue instead of the logical fallacy in your argument, I’m over this exchange.  Enjoy your misery ✌? 

You're the only one who seems miserable.

 

 

[Colbygg]

On 7/13/2022 at 8:24 PM, chosensparkles said:

I do hope the CGI looks great and doesn't look like a Once Upon a Time episode

HELP not the OUAT slander. All their budget went to Regina's wardrobe. 

[shinyshimmery]

I really want to see what they did with the underwater scenes... also there was a shark chase in the first movie.... which im 99.99% sure they're not keeping for the live action one. Halle is a very lovely girl, and while I was shook at her casting announcement (for obvious reasons)... she has proven to be a more than worthy Ariel. It's necessary for Disney to push these boundaries... now more than ever we need to learn to coexist. 

[Bubble Tea]

God this film has been stewing for so damn long. A COVID casualty I guess. Excited for its release! It really doesn't matter what colour she is - just hope the iconic red hair hasn't been scrapped.

[Johnny Jacobs]

6 hours ago, shinyshimmery said:

I really want to see what they did with the underwater scenes... also there was a shark chase in the first movie.... which im 99.99% sure they're not keeping for the live action one. Halle is a very lovely girl, and while I was shook at her casting announcement (for obvious reasons)... she has proven to be a more than worthy Ariel. It's necessary for Disney to push these boundaries... now more than ever we need to learn to coexist. 

There is literally no excuse to make poor CGI water scenes/not do every scene when Aquaman visuals were excellent.

 

I just need the red hair to be red. I don't care 

[Valentine]

Halle is PERFECT for Ariel.
 

It pains me that some people can’t see it; they’re either unfamiliar with Halle’s talents or they’re racist.