Peroxide Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Monsieurgedeon said: I don't know. I think Spiderverse just showed that race might not be the issue here. Spiderman opened great in China and in the world in general and the lead is afrolatino.Ā Ā Also TLM has legs in Japan and Philippines so this rhetoric of Asians countries are racist seems really simplistic. Ā The animated movie might not have resonated so much in the rest of the world vs the US as everybody expected (the BO for the first run in the rest of the world were really low). Maybe it's not such a great movie?Ā Race absolutely has played a part hereā¦ Ā Ariel being played by a black actress sent shockwaves across the internetā¦ and itās also partly to do with the fact itās a Princess movieā¦ audiences are going to be harsher with things like appearance and beauty standards (particularly European territories). Ā I suspect weāll see less race-swapping post TLM (which I, like many others have mixed feelings about).Ā Ā But best believe - itās a good movie and those that have seen it have been extremely positive. 8 1
Xtina23 Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) On 6/13/2023 at 5:11 PM, UnfairTop said: Can we call this a flop yet? Flipping your fins didn't get this film to far, indeed. Oh yes, we most definitely can!!! Ā 4 hours ago, Peroxide said: Race absolutely has played a part hereā¦ Ā Ariel being played by a black actress sent shockwaves across the internetā¦ and itās also partly to do with the fact itās a Princess movieā¦ audiences are going to be harsher with things like appearance and beauty standards (particularly European territories). Ā I suspect weāll see less race-swapping post TLM (which I, like many others have mixed feelings about).Ā Ā But best believe - itās a good movie and those that have seen it have been extremely positive. Actually darling, that is incorrect. Ā A poll conducted in July 2019, fromĀ Hollywood Reporter/Morning ConsultĀ ....Ā found a majority in support of remakes that are "as close to their original as possible, including sticking to the race and ethnicity of each character."Ā Ā (from Wiki^) Ā Marketing research matters. It's what drives every major decision in any service, product or film (such as this one). Edited June 15, 2023 by Xtina23 1 2
Reverse Warholian Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 This was cute. Halle and Melissa were the standouts. One of the stronger live action Disney remakes but still missing that cartoon magic. Also about 20 mins too long.Ā Ā 7/10Ā
BNF91 Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 Moving quite well in first week in Japan. Around $7.3M in 6 days, even with exchange rate faltering.Ā
Peroxide Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Xtina23 said: Oh yes, we most definitely can!!! Ā Actually darling, that is incorrect. Ā A poll conducted in July 2019, fromĀ Hollywood Reporter/Morning ConsultĀ ....Ā found a majority in support of remakes that are "as close to their original as possible, including sticking to the race and ethnicity of each character."Ā Ā (from Wiki^) Ā Marketing research matters. It's what drives every major decision in any service, product or film (such as this one). How was I incorrect? I said, I expect us to see LESS race-swapping post TLM...
chosensparkles Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 3 hours ago, BNF91 said: Moving quite well in first week in Japan. Around $7.3M in 6 days, even with exchange rate faltering.Ā Nice for miss Japan how well do we think it will do?
V$. Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, BNF91 said: Moving quite well in first week in Japan. Around $7.3M in 6 days, even with exchange rate faltering.Ā
Aethereal Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, chosensparkles said: Nice for miss Japan how well do we think it will do? My prediction for sub $20M is even stronger than before. Ā The Jungle Book opening - $5,993,795 Ā Before the second weekend total gross -Ā Ā $11,589,614 https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3474491137/weekend/ Overall total gross - $23M Ā The Lion King opened with $6.9M and was at $26MĀ before or with the second Friday Ā Ā TLM is imitating the run of The Jungle Book. This is still OK compared to China. Dumbo, in Japan, in comparison, only did $9M.Ā Ā
BNF91 Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, chosensparkles said: Nice for miss Japan how well do we think it will do? Waiting for 2nd weekend hold to see. Jungle Book plummeted 65% on its 2nd weekend during the Rio Summer Olympics as it was a late August release and played into the fall. This is the middle of summer with no Olympics to disrupt the box office.Ā Edited June 15, 2023 by BNF91
Monsieurgedeon Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 I will follow your suggestion and watch it when it's available in digital.Ā Ā I also agree with you regarding your mixed feelings. Complicated situation but Disney will definitely earns money anyway with the merch, cinema release, digital and streaming.Ā Ā Ā
BNF91 Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 Early Wed domestic: $3M, a soft -30% from last week Wed. Beautiful stability, Aladdin was -37% on the same day. Maybe that $18M projection could happen this weekend.Ā 2
V$. Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 #TheLittleMermaid keeps enchanting audiences with her singing at US #BoxOffice, grossing 3M on 3rd WED! SHE GOT LEGS, just -29.5% drop from last WEDĀ (vs #Aladdin 3.2M, -36.9%) for a 239.4M US cume. Will beat #Maleficentās 241.4M US run TONIGHT! Eyeing a 310M-350M US run! Ā Ā https://twitter.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1669440144959520768?t=UMGCTRDCzr77zsMHWhY8xA&s=19 Ā Ā 1
Cryptique Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 5:04 AM, Monsieurgedeon said: I don't know. I think Spiderverse just showed that race might not be the issue here. Spiderman opened great in China and in the world in general and the lead is afrolatino.Ā Ā Also TLM has legs in Japan and Philippines so this rhetoric of Asians countries are racist seems really simplistic. Ā The animated movie might not have resonated so much in the rest of the world vs the US as everybody expected (the BO for the first run in the rest of the world were really low). Maybe it's not such a great movie?Ā of course, MILES MORALES is biracial in the comic. they basically just followed the beloved comic character's race or somthn Ā ARIEL on the other hand, chile.. they couldve just tell another story of a black mermaid instead of race-swapping a beloved character 2 7
Monsieurgedeon Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 How could the GP relate to Miles Morales tho if they are as racist as we say?Ā Ā Regarding the Little mermaid; I don't agree with you as she is just a mermaid and her skin color has nothing to do with the story so she could basically be played by anyone. Ā I understand that in implies a limitation in terms of business reach and it is unfortunately a reality, and it is for obviously race motivated. I suppose white audience doesn't like to be extorted of one of their white character.Ā Ā Anyways; it is what it is but it doesn't mean it's good or that we should try to swipe the topic with "just create more original stories". At the end it is just a story about a mermaid, and not a great one to start with.Ā
thatsmydemi Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 When you have like 5 different versions of Spiderman, it's easier to accept another one.Ā Ā The comparison makes no sense to me. There is one Ariel and the one we've known since forever is the white mermaid with red hair. It's obvious people feel more apprehensive about Halle's Ariel.Ā Ā Still, this whole outrage and controversy is so childish.Ā
Aethereal Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 There was a very popular anime character that was whitewashed in a Hollywood movie. It bombed really hardcore in Japan and Korea. They are very strict on the originality of the classics, especially their own.Ā
blaggot Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 it's so funny to me that people areĀ stillĀ whining about halle's casting when y'all have had 4 years to come to terms with it Ā Ā the modern day little mermaid is black. get over it. 9
Aethereal Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 I miss Disney's 2D animated movies so much. Will they ever come back?Ā
chosensparkles Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 In 3rd place, #TheLittleMermaid felt the arrival of strong Hollywood competition and the loss of premium screenings in #Japanās #BoxOffice grossing 490k on 2nd FRI, a -60.8% drop from last FRI Opening day, for a 8.3M cume. Eyeing a 1.7M-2.5M 2nd 3-day weekend locally. Ā $2.5M on Thursday for TLM (-17%)
BNF91 Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 The Flash's opening day was barely higher than TLM's 2nd Friday in Japan. I'm hoping TLM can follow the same trajectory as last weekend and hit the high end of that projection, $2.5M.Ā Ā Spiderverse and The Flash both debuted this weekend, lots of screens/theatres to give up to those openers.Ā Ā Domestically, both Elemental and The Flash are debuting in over 4000 locations. All movies lost a lot of screens to those debuts on Thursday. Let's see how things shake out by the end of the weekend.Ā
Desire Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 Picking up poster frames today to hang the posters they gave me during my early screening Ā Gotta figure out when I can go watch this another time before it leaves theaters, especially with all these summer movies being released every single week and limiting showtimesĀ
EnigmaticAndroid Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 Saw it with my family yesterday and we all thought it was a lot of fun. Everyone was stanning HalleĀ 1
BNF91 Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, V$. said: Ā Ā Wow that's a huge Saturday jump, and it actually was even better (actual is $1.32M). After Sunday it can be at $11M. I'd love if it increased again on Sunday like last weekend, could make $3M weekend possible. Still, given the competition taking so many screens, this is solid. It should have quite a bit of life left in it in Japan.Ā Edited June 17, 2023 by BNF91
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