EmailMySwift Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Finally saw it. Better than I expected! I would give it a solid B. The original gets an A. Spoiler Halle is good as Ariel. She has the lungs and the heart. The Eric actor is ok. Javier is bad as Triton - he seems bored and doesnt capture the conflict of a father who wants to protect his daughter while feeling guilty about how strict he has to be. Melissa is meh as Ursula - she doesn't have the vamp, the camp, and can't shed her sweet funny best friend persona. The sidekicks are lifeless and creepy - it's like the seafood section in your grocery store started singing - and their dead eyes never change. Lin Manuel Miranda is a hack and all his new songs are bad. Big mistake: not having Sebastian present for Part of Your World. It's so important that he sees her longing and passion so that you understand why he gets on her side and helps her. Also why is Ariel singing along and having a ball during Under the Sea? In the original she understandably leaves halfway through. It's like they didn't think things through. The new scenes didn't add much, they just padded the runtime, but I did like the addition of the little mermaid statue and the way Eric learns Ariel's name. Still, I had a good time. Overall not bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, family.guy123 said: It’s crazy. For music, it’s the opposite. Americans are more racist (see Morgan Wallen only smashing in America. But for film, America seems to be the only saving grace for TLM I don’t think all Morgan Wallen’s listeners are racists or know about his past racist behavior tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V$. Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 https://twitter.com/HalleBailey/status/1662968783613599744 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V$. Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, EmailMySwift said: Finally saw it. Better than I expected! I would give it a solid B. The original gets an A. Reveal hidden contents Halle is good as Ariel. She has the lungs and the heart. The Eric actor is ok. Javier is bad as Triton - he seems bored and doesnt capture the conflict of a father who wants to protect his daughter while feeling guilty about how strict he has to be. Melissa is meh as Ursula - she doesn't have the vamp, the camp, and can't shed her sweet funny best friend persona. The sidekicks are lifeless and creepy - it's like the seafood section in your grocery store started singing - and their dead eyes never change. Lin Manuel Miranda is a hack and all his new songs are bad. Big mistake: not having Sebastian present for Part of Your World. It's so important that he sees her longing and passion so that you understand why he gets on her side and helps her. Also why is Ariel singing along and having a ball during Under the Sea? In the original she understandably leaves halfway through. It's like they didn't think things through. The new scenes didn't add much, they just padded the runtime, but I did like the addition of the little mermaid statue and the way Eric learns Ariel's name. Still, I had a good time. Overall not bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Just enjoy the movie, don't worry about numbers. Many great movies flopped even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I can't stop listening to Halle's Part Of Your World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Alexander Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: I don’t think all Morgan Wallen’s listeners are racists or know about his past racist behavior tbh You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. The day the video was released, they all stood with him and promised to boost his sales and streaming. You can still see the lasting aftermath today… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dr. Alexander said: You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. The day the video was released, they all stood with him and promised to boost his sales and streaming. You can still see the lasting aftermath today… Like yeah I’m sure some of his listeners are racist, but absolutely not the majority of them. He’s the most popular male artist in the US, he just has full GP support. Morgan Wallen got caught saying the n-word. Alright, so did Camila Cabello, Justin Bieber, Madonna, Eminem and many other celebs. And none of them remained cancelled, people just moved on and forgot about it. No one from the GP cares at this point about this 2-year-old scandal and I’m pretty sure most have forgotten about it. Only this forum and the echo chamber that it’s stan twitter still cares. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Alexander Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: Like yeah I’m sure some of his listeners are racist, but absolutely not the majority of them. He’s the most popular male artist in the US, he just has full GP support. Morgan Wallen got caught saying the n-word. Alright, so did Camila Cabello, Justin Bieber, Madonna, Eminem and many other celebs. And none of them remained cancelled, people just moved on and forgot about it. No one from the GP cares at this point about this 2-year-old scandal and I’m pretty sure most have forgotten about it. Only this forum and the echo chamber that it’s stan twitter still cares. No. You’re missing it. When the video was released, people stood by him in droves instead of going against him, solely because he said racial slurs. They supported him even more because of it. Why do you all act as if racism isn’t prominent still? Newsflash, it is. Read instead of just saying anything: Quote Wallen’s sales increased 1,220 percent on Wednesday compared to Tuesday, while his song sales were up 327 percent, according to Alpha Data, the data analytics provider that powers the Rolling Stone Charts. And despite being removed from playlists like Today’s Country on Apple Music and Spotify’s Hot Country Songs, his streams did not dip on Wednesday at all. (Wallen’s music remains on theservices since his label, Big Loud, has not removed any material.) https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/morgan-wallen-sales-racial-slur-1124242/ Edited May 29, 2023 by Dr. Alexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It's marketing budget is $300m - $450m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonsé Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Why the hell yall talmbout Morgan wallen dumbass in here? I came to talk about niece Halle and Melissa MOTHERING and y’all doing this? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosensparkles Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 #1 in France on Sunday again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Phoenix Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Spoiler Oh well what a mess Rob Marshall did here, I blame it on him and that this was filmed in the COVID era because it shows with the lifeless small settlement on the island and the biggest musical number being just like 20 people on a rough market. The water scenes look muddy and dark, and Disney is possible of doing more having seen what Avatar achieved, even Wakanda did better and Aquaman too. The film is too long and nothing interesting happens in the first half besides Ursula cursing Ariel. The color palette is just gray and grim and the photography director did a bad job with Halle and Eric which had a lot of shadows and bad angles. Overall this could have been done way better, even B&tB was better and that’s a low bar, and Aladdin is a masterpiece in this case. Halle did good with what she had (which was not a lot) the script was very basic and her supporting cast kinda meh. Honestly it wasn’t that good and there’s at least 5 better live action films than this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppie Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Delirious said: It's marketing budget is $300m - $450m Surely not? That would mean a break even point of 800-950m? Which is never going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Leppie said: Surely not? That would mean a break even point of 800-950m? Which is never going to happen It's an estimate. They said TLM it was the biggest they ever spent on marketing. Dumbo had a combined production and advertisement budget of $300 million. So I think the breakeven point is $500m - $650m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppie Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Delirious said: It's an estimate. They said TLM it was the biggest they ever spent on marketing. Dumbo had a combined production and advertisement budget of $300 million. So I think the breakeven point is $500m - $650m The budget is reported to be $250m, my understanding is that half of a movies gross goes to the cinemas themselves, so that would put the break even figure at 500m for the production alone.. let alone the advertising costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Will it reach 600mil at this point? This is sad.. I wonder what is will do to Snow White when it will come out. The messy reactions happened there too but not on this scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leppie said: The budget is reported to be $250m, my understanding is that half of a movies gross goes to the cinemas themselves, so that would put the break even figure at 500m for the production alone.. let alone the advertising costs Thr promotion costs must be huge.. They're heavily promoting it everywhere.. I think they need like 600m to make somewhat of a profit Edited May 29, 2023 by Johnny Jacobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V$. Posted May 29, 2023 Author Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, yonsé said: Why the hell yall talmbout Morgan wallen dumbass in here? I came to talk about niece Halle and Melissa MOTHERING and y’all doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industry baby Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Spoiler i wish it was Vanessa who married with prince and ruin the ariel’s existence forever. i hate when fake good people and fake kindness wins all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Leppie said: The budget is reported to be $250m, my understanding is that half of a movies gross goes to the cinemas themselves, so that would put the break even figure at 500m for the production alone.. let alone the advertising costs 6 hours ago, Delirious said: It's marketing budget is $300m - $450m I think you meant the total costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, industry baby said: Hide contents i wish it was Vanessa who married with prince and ruin the ariel’s existence forever. i hate when fake good people and fake kindness wins all the time. Read the real original story then. You will love this ending. It's bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eóghan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 What Aladdin (2019) had that this movie doesn't have to even come close to a billion was it's overperformance in the asian market. Aladdin had legs in the US, which nobody saw coming but nobody predicted the support from Asia. Aladdin was actually the biggest live action in Japan for example, more than "Beauty and the Beast", also doubled the earnings of "The Lion King". It's clear that racism is a big factor for this movie not working in Asian countries but it's not the only factor. The OST is also not making any noise. The Aladdin OST went viral in Japan and South Korea, with tons of idols making cover of songs from the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmailMySwift Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 4:40 shows exactly what the problem with the movie is and why the animated shits all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Man3379 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Got so teary eyed when Halle sang Part of Your World. She’s such a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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