discussion Are these types of gay adult movies recreating pedophilia?

[KatyPrismSpirit]

5 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Do you think that pup play will lead people to develop a desire for bestiality? This is not how this works. 

girl what will lead ppl to develop WHAt? i dont even wanna know what any of these things mean chile

[Chris]

9 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Do you think that pup play will lead people to develop a desire for bestiality? This is not how this works. 

[Chris]

This thread is about to spiral.

 

Let me log out.

[GraceRandolph]

4 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

girl what will lead ppl to develop WHAt? i dont even wanna know what any of these things mean chile

Spoiler

 

[zasderfght]

44 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

if your kink is pegging someone who portrays themselves as a literal child during s*x**l practices you are literally on your way to distinct pedophilia and need help....

I think it's important to look at the science behind kinks, and to refrain using your own moral compass as absolute truth. Here is an article that explain kinky people are, for the most part, mentally and emotionally healthy, and this article includes accredited doctors and studies that weigh in on kinks:  

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/kinky-people-are-mentally-and-emotionally-healthy-300185009.html

 

From the article: "I was curious about the stereotypes from a mental health standpoint and we found that these kinky people are well functioning, with little mental health concerns," says Tess M. Gemberling, M.A., Co-Principal Investigator, University of Alabama. "They also have healthy romantic relationships."

 

Also from the article: The study, "Psychological Functioning and Violence Victimization and Perpetration in BDSM Practitioners from the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom," also investigated people's preferences for BDSM activities and fantasies, and explored whether violence is perpetuated against kinky people. It joins a growing body of research that refutes the stereotype that people who are kinky are inherently dangerous to themselves and others, which is at the root of the discrimination and persecution that kinky people experience. 

 

Also from the article: "Parallel to my work with sexual minorities, my interest is in looking at the nature of identity and mental health in a vulnerable group of people," says Robert J. Cramer, Ph.D., Co-Principal Investigator, University of Alabama. "Contrary to popular perceptions, our study shows kinky persons are largely mentally healthy when it comes to conditions such as depression, anxiety and suicide."

 

Also, let's refrain from using language such as "you need help." None of us on here are licensed therapists or medical experts, and you cannot determine if someone needs psychological help by simply an Internet comment. Other factors need to be taken into account such as healthy family/friend relationships, general sense of well-being, staying consistent and present in your work, not being codependent on substances, etc. 

 

Moreover, "on your way to pedophilia" is technically inaccurate-- that person most likely is on their way to chronophilia (attraction to certain age groups). 

 

Pedophilia is strictly the attraction to non-adults/minors/pre-pubescent folks. Just because our kinks are not rooted in older/young roleplaying does not mean the people that are are pedophiles. We have to be intellectually honest. 

Edited July 11, 2022 by zasderfght

[Aristide]

1 hour ago, Gorgeous said:

but the +18yo have been basically disguised to look 14-16, not many 18 look small and pre-pubescent as these 

Wtf yes they do. How are they supposed to look? "Not young?" I know people who are over 25 who still get asked if they're of consenting age.

Edited July 11, 2022 by Aristide

[zasderfght]

58 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

stop watching corn. its damaging your brain even more than atrl

There is not a black-and-white answer to this. There are arguments for porn-viewing being healthy, especially for LGBTQ+ youth, and arguments for porn-viewing to be unhealthy. Source: https://theconversation.com/is-watching-porn-bad-for-your-health-we-asked-5-experts-140550. 

 

It is totally acceptable to not like porn and/or have an unhealthy relationship with it, but that's not everyone's experience. That's just the truth. 

[Into The Void]

1 hour ago, Gorgeous said:

but the +18yo have been basically disguised to look 14-16, not many 18 look small and pre-pubescent as these 

you would be surprised lol

 

one of my ex's looked way younger than his age 

Edited July 11, 2022 by Insanity

[Into The Void]

46 minutes ago, Chris said:

This thread is about to spiral.

 

Let me log out.

[Bacardo Royale]

That's why these type of videos are so popular. Funsize boys is the worst offender imo.They're getting as close to pedophilia as they possibly can without it actually being pedophilia. 

[zasderfght]

A lot of people seem to be confusing pedophilia for chronophilia. It's totally fine to find this content disturbing/undesirable, but please use the correct terms when using this topic. 

[Oceania]

It's not different from drooling over Bieber, Mendes or those 12 yo looking K-boys. It's not like you suddenly become a granpa the day you turn 18 anyway. Pedophilia is something else. 

 

 

Either way, it doesn't concern me since I have a fetish for the 30s/40s range.

[Gorgeous]

2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

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You are a very interesting individual 

 

[Chris]

[Gorgeous]

6 hours ago, Bacardo Royale said:

That's why these type of videos are so popular. Funsize boys is the worst offender imo.They're getting as close to pedophilia as they possibly can without it actually being pedophilia. 

Yeah, they are definitely treating this bottom as a 12yo getting a medical exam  and people here say that its not made on purpose 

 

 

[GraceRandolph]

4 minutes ago, Gorgeous said:

Yeah, they are definitely treating this bottom as a 12yo getting a medical exam  and people here say that its not made on purpose 

 

 

That bottom looks 30 though 

[Vertigo Stick]

When I was a pre-teen I had an online relationship with someone much older. Recently I was watching corn and one of the user profiles had his same exact username (other info checked out too). All the videos on his profile were of twink corn. They all looked 12 years old. 

Where there is smoke, there is fire 

 

[RockStarShit101]

it's even weirder when it's real life

 

 

[zasderfght]

If the content bothers you guys this much, just don’t watch it. This content doesn’t violate any laws, all the actors are of consenting age, etc. Endlessly shouting “it’s pedophilia!” is intellectually dishonest; I mean, if that makes you sleep better at night to get that off your chest— sure, keep complaining. 

 

Personally, I prefer Alex MeCum or Diego Sans porn over this twink/daddy porn, so what do I do? I don’t watch this ****. 

[terrorblade]

daddy legrand woof is just

[John Slayne]

On 7/11/2022 at 4:02 PM, zasderfght said:

3. When I was in my younger years, I definitely slept with "daddies," and I got off on that. I don't regret those sexual experiences, nor was I traumatized by them, because I consented, and it was what I wanted at the time.

I mean, same but at the same time... I feel lucky we got lucky. Those situations can turn sour real quick and I know people who have had some bad experiences with older men. It also brings into question why those older men were so into you in the first place... I definitely enjoyed their attention, but now that I'm getting older I can't imagine fooling around with teenagers and it just seems creepy to me. Like why were they into me in the first place? It's very sus.

Edited July 12, 2022 by John Slayne

[ToMmY]

22 hours ago, Gorgeous said:

Yeah, they are definitely treating this bottom as a 12yo getting a medical exam  and people here say that its not made on purpose 

 

 

I'm sorry but this made me scream.

 

 

To answer the question in the title: No.

[zasderfght]

2 hours ago, John Slayne said:

I mean, same but at the same time... I feel lucky we got lucky. Those situations can turn sour real quick and I know people who have had some bad experiences with older men. It also brings into question why those older men were so into you in the first place... I definitely enjoyed their attention, but now that I'm getting older I can't imagine fooling around with teenagers and it just seems creepy to me. Like why were they into me in the first place? It's very sus.

Absolutely older men can physically and/or emotionally take advantage of you. In extreme cases, rape or sexual assault can take place. 

 

To combat any potential creepiness, I made sure to say upfront what I wanted from my daddy: sex and only sex. Some older guys understood that. Others didn't, and they wanted a relationship, so our FWB-situation quickly fizzled. 

 

I can't speak to every "daddy" out there, but the last daddy relationship that fizzled was likely due to mental health issues that were not addressed by my sex partner. He most likely couldn't find guys his own age to date (he might have said that to me), and when I temporarily ended things because I felt like he was too attached to me, we decided to hook up shortly after (which didn't last, obviously), and he seemed pretty combative about my decision to temporarily end things before we resumed hooking up again.  

 

As for the other man I slept with-- he only disclosed he was married to his wife and kids after the deed was done. He was a bisexual closet case except to the guys he banged. 

 

Tl;dr: I think older men sleep with younger men because of unresolved issues with themselves and/or romantic partners. 

 

While I would like to think there are some older men that see sex as just sex, sadly, that has not been my experience. 

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by zasderfght

[Fanta]

Is it illegal… no, but it is extremely questionable & weird for an older man to be attracted to a boy that just graduated high school last week or even worse is still attending.  

Edited July 13, 2022 by Fanta

[FreeXone]

In the gay p0rn I dont think they sexualize themselves as the older man but as the younger person 

 

Some peoples trauma turns them on and they probably visualize themselves as the young person being taken advantage of.

 

But straight p0rn does this waaay more.