Solaria Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) She was unstoppable in 2016-2018, with Closer and Without Me being massive hits for her. Closer is certified 14x Platinum and also did amazing in Australia, Canada, France which are big markets. Region Certification Certified units/sales Australia (ARIA)[162] 19× Platinum 1,330,000 Austria (IFPI Austria)[163] Platinum 30,000 Belgium (BEA)[164] 3× Platinum 60,000 Canada (Music Canada)[165] Diamond 800,000 Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[166] 3× Platinum 270,000 France (SNEP)[167] Diamond 233,333 Germany (BVMI)[168] 3× Gold 600,000 Italy (FIMI)[169] 6× Platinum 300,000 Mexico (AMPROFON)[170] Diamond+4× Platinum 540,000 Netherlands (NVPI)[171] Platinum 40,000 New Zealand (RMNZ)[172] 3× Platinum 90,000 Norway (IFPI Norway)[173] 3× Platinum 180,000 Poland (ZPAV)[174] Diamond 100,000 Portugal (AFP)[175] 2× Platinum 20,000 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[176] 2× Platinum 80,000 Sweden (GLF)[177] 5× Platinum 200,000 United Kingdom (BPI)[178] 4× Platinum 2,400,000 United States (RIAA)[179] 14× Platinum 14,000,000 Streaming Japan (RIAJ)[180] Platinum 100,000,000 Japan (RIAJ)[181] Tokyo Remix (feat. Mackenyu Nitta) Gold 50,000,000 South Korea — 100,000,000[182] Her 2018 released song Without Me is also close to a Diamond certification in the U.S. and also did great in other markets: Region Certification Certified units/sales Australia (ARIA)[147] 8× Platinum 560,000 Austria (IFPI Austria)[148] Gold 15,000 Belgium (BEA)[149] Platinum 40,000 Canada (Music Canada)[150] 9× Platinum 720,000 Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[151] 2× Platinum 180,000 France (SNEP)[152] Gold 100,000 Germany (BVMI)[153] Gold 200,000 Italy (FIMI)[154] Platinum 50,000 Mexico (AMPROFON)[155] 2× Diamond+Platinum+Gold 690,000 New Zealand (RMNZ)[156] 2× Platinum 60,000 Norway (IFPI Norway)[157] 2× Platinum 120,000 Portugal (AFP)[158] 2× Platinum 20,000 Spain (PROMUSICAE)[159] Gold 20,000 United Kingdom (BPI)[160] 2× Platinum 1,200,000 United States (RIAA)[161] 9× Platinum 9,000,000 Streaming Sweden (GLF)[162] 3× Platinum 24,000,000 But all her subsequent releases have not made much noise or were no able to live up to the success of the aforementioned singles. Graveyard, which is seen as the ''real'' lead single off of Manic, only went 2x Platinum and doesn't seem to have a lot of WW success either: Region Certification Certified units/sales Australia (ARIA)[60] 2× Platinum 140,000 Canada (Music Canada)[61] 2× Platinum 160,000 Mexico (AMPROFON)[62] Gold 30,000 Norway (IFPI Norway)[63] Gold 30,000 Portugal (AFP)[64] Gold 5,000 United Kingdom (BPI)[65] Silver 200,000 United States (RIAA)[66] 2× Platinum 2,000,000 Streaming Sweden (GLF)[67] Gold 4,000,000 Then, the lead single off of her latest album barely made any noise: Weekly charts[edit] Weekly chart performance for "I Am Not a Woman, I'm a God" Chart (2021) Peak position Australia (ARIA)[18] 81 Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[19] 66 Canada CHR/Top 40 (Billboard)[20] 25 Canada Hot AC (Billboard)[21] 41 Czech Republic (Rádio – Top 100)[22] 60 Global 200 (Billboard)[23] 73 Ireland (IRMA)[24] 66 Lithuania (AGATA)[25] 87 New Zealand Hot Singles (Recorded Music NZ)[26] 8 Portugal (AFP)[27] 154 UK Singles (OCC)[28] 72 US Billboard Hot 100[29] 64 US Adult Top 40 (Billboard)[30] 34 US Hot Rock & Alternative Songs (Billboard)[31] 6 US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[32] 22 So what went wrong? Why wasn't she able to gain more momentum? She could have easily had a string of hits if she wanted to, she fits right into that soundscape of that era. Edited July 5, 2022 by Love Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I think WM was a fluke, she hasn’t had much solo success before or after that song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selegend Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 i think it's both music and personality her personality screams tumblr girl u know? and this era is over and she did a very praised sound with ler latest album but since it didn't pull numbers she tried to do another "without me" and it's just kinda boring it's a combination of things i do hope she finds a way to rebound soon tho, i listen to her a lot and think she deserves success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Cain said: I think WM was a fluke, she hasn’t had much solo success before or after that song It's weird to me though that she wasn't able to get another solo hit. I think her sound works very well with current trends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) She had a very cute fanbase during her more “alt” first 2 eras. I think her turning more commercial turned some of them off, but when she was being “commercial” she was more of just a faceless hook girl not delivering anything new or remarkable to keep her in GPs minds. Now she has a fanbase just big enough to give her decent debut weeks but nothing huge Edited July 5, 2022 by Delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 "I Am Not a Woman, I'm a God" was not push like a typical single. It’s clear she wasn’t looking for chart success with this recent album. That era was the true definition of art to not charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherocks Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Capitol replaced Katy with Halsey. And now Halsey herself is on her way out. All the payola Capitol used for Katy in the past, went straight to pushing Halsey on the radio. Edited July 5, 2022 by ontherocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billionaire Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Wasn't Eastside a pretty big hit too? She was mostly a faceless radio artist tbh She should stick to releasing more albums like IICHLIWP, since it seems like she won't have another big hit again Edited July 5, 2022 by Billionaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sha-nasty Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Coming for Sky Ferreira was her first mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss It Better Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 the change of direction of Manic ruined it i guess? Nightmare debuted at peaked at top 15 and while it wasn't a good follow up to Without Me (chart wise) she should've kept going with this direction, and if she still followed Manic with IICHLIWP, honey should've been pushed as the big radio single, it's more radio friendly than I'm not a woman i'm a god (was this even sent to radio?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Billionaire said: Wasn't Eastside a pretty big hit too? She was mostly a faceless radio artist tbh She should stick to releasing more albums like IICHLIWP, since it seems like she won't have another big hit again Seems like it. Kinda telling how 2/3 of her biggest hits aren't solo Region Certification Certified units/sales Australia (ARIA)[88] 11× Platinum 770,000 Belgium (BEA)[89] Gold 20,000 Canada (Music Canada)[90] 5× Platinum 400,000 Denmark (IFPI Danmark)[91] 2× Platinum 180,000 France (SNEP)[92] Gold 100,000 Germany (BVMI)[93] Gold 200,000 Italy (FIMI)[94] Platinum 50,000 Mexico (AMPROFON)[95] Gold 30,000 New Zealand (RMNZ)[96] 3× Platinum 90,000 Norway (IFPI Norway)[97] 3× Platinum 180,000 Poland (ZPAV)[98] 2× Platinum 100,000 Portugal (AFP)[99] 3× Platinum 30,000 United Kingdom (BPI)[100] 3× Platinum 1,800,000 United States (RIAA)[101] 5× Platinum 5,000,000 Streaming Sweden (GLF)[102] Platinum 8,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Power love said: "I Am Not a Woman, I'm a God" was not push like a typical single. It’s clear she wasn’t looking for chart success with this recent album. That era was the true definition of art to not charts. She tried to be commercial before and after IICHLIWP tho but she just... couldn't. I think her time is up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveInStereo Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 She’s waffling between too many different styles & sounds to be able to leave a strong impression. She’s flip-flopped from alt to pop & back & forth again so many times that nobody knows what a Halsey song sounds like anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Talent, quality, range. Not everyone has that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 she had her time. without me was her final hit and she had a decent run with three moderately successful albums and her recent GRAMMY nominated album. i dont see a future commercial career ahead of her and thats fine. i do see her still putting out music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Her latest song is just not good enough, but her career is still strong! She needs to focus on things beyond radio hits bc the more you try to be generic for a radio hit, the less likely you are to get it (these days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Also as long as the music is good, doesn't matter how it does!! Give us another Manic, queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 she just never had it as a MPG... closer was a chainsmokers song and WM was a fluke that sounded like a rihanna ripoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: she had her time. without me was her final hit and she had a decent run with three moderately successful albums and her recent GRAMMY nominated album. i dont see a future commercial career ahead of her and thats fine. i do see her still putting out music Yeah her career just reached a natural end. I also doubt she was trying for commercial success with iichl. I think she can have another era with moderate success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, halcyonday said: Talent, quality, range. Not everyone has that. Mind you Future Nostalgia is more acclaimed and has seen more success than any Halsey album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 1. She isn't that special 2. Her songs aren't that good. 3. Her attitude is obnoxious and rude 4. She's fake (try hard to be edgy) 5. Inconsistent with her music genre decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
305 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 She chose not to be a pop star I saw her last week and she literally said that she lost herself at some point and was talking about how she "used to play huge shows when she was a popstar" but she chose art not the charts! (Also her wokeness took over) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: She needs to focus on things beyond radio hits bc the more you try to be generic for a radio hit, the less likely you are to get it (these days) this is where it went south for her too tbh. for the past 7 years or so of her being a mainstream artist she has never really built a distinct sound that makes her stand out amongst her peers if that makes sense. everything she releases doesnt feel passionate enough. her biggest songs could have literally been anyone’s and thats no shade. i guess from the get go, she was just extremely lucky that she collected a handful of fans from that 2016 hit she had. dua could have made the same exact mistake if she didnt switch up the game for future nostalgia. she avoided a bullet there as she made a project that made her stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: i guess from the get go, she was just extremely lucky that she collected a handful of fans from that 2016 hit she had. Actually it was her indie era Badlands that built her the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Witch Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 If I can't have love, I want power, ha ARTPOP i fear @Reverse Warholian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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