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I agree that that her being less successful has something to do with her becoming less relatable.

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:14 PM, Protocol said:

Even Heller Keller could've told you that one of the reasons for Adele blowing up with 21 was that she was not the conventional thin pop starlet. It was that combined with the naked, earnest heartbreak songs. A skinny woman's heartbreak just isn't the same. A big woman's heartbreak carries more weight. No pun intended.

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I don't know why people are still denying this, it's the same as Avril or Pink being the anti Britney.

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:17 PM, Protocol said:

Because the songs weren't there. "Chasing Pavements" is a good song but the metaphor is a bit confusing. Once she started releasing heartbreak songs everyone could relate to and understand, that's when she blew up. "Rolling in the Deep" was the first, pure anger. "Someone Like You", sadness and resignation.

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So we agree, the music content is what got people to her side? 

 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:16 PM, Cleanromantic said:

Obviously people needed to like the music first for her to become successful, but her image clearly helped. She didn't become successful due to only one factor.

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Then why is Adele the only plus-sized woman to have an album sell 30M+? Surely if all that was needed was a plus-sized woman making heartbreak songs to achieve great commercial success then there should be more of those big eras and big hits by plus-sized women, no? Adele was not the only plus-sized woman in the world, no?

 

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People are conveniently ignoring that she doesn’t want to be as famous as when she put out Hello. That’s why she purposely stopped trying during 25 and why her new method is dropping the lead and dipping.

 

yall should be grateful she’s giving your faves a chance 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:32 PM, lonnie said:

Then why is Adele the only plus-sized woman to have an album sell 30M+? Surely if all that was needed was a plus-sized woman making heartbreak songs to achieve great commercial success then there should be more of those big eras and big hits by plus-sized women, no? Adele was not the only plus-sized woman in the world, no?

 

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Isn't that literally what I just said :deadbanana2:

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:39 PM, Cleanromantic said:

Isn't that literally what I just said :deadbanana2:

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Do you literally not see the contradiction? :deadbanana4:

Theories exist within precedence and evidence. Even without proof speculation makes most sense with heightened likelihood. It is more likely that Adele's decrease in sales could have more to do with a shrinking physical and digital market (as it literally everyone's sales, including Taylor's, has taken a dip) than it does with Adele losing weight and people suddenly thinking they were hoodwinked and could no longer feel that they could relate to her. What's really difficult to understand there? :deadbanana4:

There are literally no plus-sized women who are anywhere near as successful as her because the pop world and the music industry (and the world) at large is very fatphobic and a theory that the world and the music industry suddenly fell for a plus-sized woman because of her weight then suddenly discarded her when she lost weight literally has no weight. Not even with Adele as an anomaly does that theory make sense. I can understand the swifties trying to make sense of why Adele sold more than their fave (and everyone else) because Taylor always had everything the music industry goes for: perfect height, skinny, white, blonde, all-american-girl-next-door image but a fat British lady outsold her somehow and it's difficult for you to reconcile that, but repeatedly trying to make sense of this theory that makes little sense won't be of much help I fear. 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 5:49 PM, lonnie said:

Do you literally not see the contradiction? :deadbanana4:

Theories exist within precedence and evidence. Even without proof speculation makes most sense with heightened likelihood. It is more likely that Adele's decrease in sales could have more to do with a shrinking physical and digital market (as it literally everyone's sales, including Taylor's, has taken a dip) than it does with Adele losing weight and people suddenly thinking they were hoodwinked and could no longer feel that they could relate to her. What's really difficult to understand there? :deadbanana4:

There are literally no plus-sized women who are anywhere near as successful as her because the pop world and the music industry (and the world) at large is very fatphobic and a theory that the world and the music industry suddenly fell for a plus-sized woman because of her weight then suddenly discarded her when she lost weight literally has no weight. Not even with Adele as an anomaly does that theory make sense. I can understand the swifties trying to make sense of why Adele sold more than their fave (and everyone else) because Taylor always had everything the music industry goes for: perfect height, skinny, white, blonde, all-american-girl-next-door image but a fat British lady outsold her somehow and it's difficult for you to reconcile that, but repeatedly trying to make sense of this theory that makes little sense won't be of much help I fear. 

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 :rip:

Adele didn't outsell Taylor and will never do.

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:01 PM, Cleanromantic said:

 :rip:

Adele didn't outsell Taylor and will never do.

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she did and have done it so many times 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:03 PM, supertiffany said:

she did and have done it so many times 

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She factually, literally didn't :deadbanana2:

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:03 PM, Cleanromantic said:

She factually, literally didn't :deadbanana2:

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21  alone outsold 5 taylor albums :bibliahh:

 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:05 PM, supertiffany said:

21  alone outsold 5 taylor albums :bibliahh:

 

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Congrats on her having a cute Nora John'd peak I guess. 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:01 PM, Cleanromantic said:

 :rip:

Adele didn't outsell Taylor and will never do.

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Adele has sold more albums than Taylor despite having less. Taylor has sold more singles. This is taking nothing away from Taylor because she's very successful but Adele is very much the best selling album (you know what you based this thread on?) artist of this generation and nothing is changing that. Make peace with that, beloved

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:06 PM, Cleanromantic said:

Congrats on her having a cute Nora John'd peak I guess. 

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did nora have 25 and even 30? :bibliahh:

 

 

25 outsold multiple taylor albums 

 

30 outsold any of taylor's recent albums 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:06 PM, Cleanromantic said:

Congrats on her having a cute Nora John'd peak I guess. 

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Didn't 30 also sell more than any Taylor album? How does one have two Nora John'd peaks?

 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:09 PM, lonnie said:

Didn't 30 also sell more than any Taylor album? How does one have two Nora John'd peaks?

 

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yeah 25 sold more than any tay's album

 

30 also outsold any of tay's recent albums 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:12 PM, supertiffany said:

yeah 25 sold more than any tay's album

 

30 also outsold any of tay's recent albums 

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I just saw 30 did over 20M pure worldwide too. No Taylor album recent or old has ever done that either. Adele was and is the bigger album seller of the two and Taylor stans just can't accept that fact sadly.

 

EDIT: Confused 30 for 25. You're very right.

 

 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:08 PM, supertiffany said:

did nora have 25 and even 30? :bibliahh:

 

 

25 outsold multiple taylor albums 

 

30 outsold any of taylor's recent albums 

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30 flopping turned you guys minds into mush it seems :deadbanana2:

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And Swifties have the nerve to say they aren’t the OAH :rip: 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:12 PM, supertiffany said:

30 also outsold any of tay's recent albums 

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Evermore*

Not more than that. 

 

OT : I think it helped her image with her relatability but music was the main factor at the end of the day. 

 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 6:24 PM, Artistofthedecade said:

Evermore*

Not more than that. 

 

OT : I think it helped her image with her relatability but music was the main factor at the end of the day. 

 

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redtv and folklore 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 7:16 PM, supertiffany said:

redtv and folklore 

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Folklore has ~6.8M units(it will get an update this month) and 30 has 6.1M. 

 

But yeah... congrats at outselling 2 re-recordings (don't forget Fearless TV too) 

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  On 7/4/2022 at 7:22 PM, Artistofthedecade said:

Folklore has ~6.8M units(it will get an update this month) and 30 has 6.1M. 

 

But yeah... congrats at outselling 2 re-recordings (don't forget Fearless TV too) 

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yeah congrats to Adele latest album about to outsell Folklore in lesser time with no bundles

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  On 7/4/2022 at 8:20 PM, supertiffany said:

 

yeah congrats to Adele latest album about to outsell Folklore in lesser time with no bundles

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Going to outsell when... it is already getting less daily streams or units? Good luck i guess

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yes the meghan trainor blueprint

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