A Bomb Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Quote The fundraising comes ahead of the midterm elections, but party officials told the AP that most of the donations were going towards national campaigns and causes instead of state-level races. Now that the 1973 landmark decision making abortion legal in the US has been overturned, it's up to individual states to create their own legislation around abortion. Quote “We can no longer afford Democrats’ systemic neglect of down-ballot races — not when Republicans are eager to intrude on our health care decisions, bedrooms, and marriages,” said Gabrielle Chew, a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, which helps finance state legislative races. “This should be a wake-up call.” https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-elections-campaigns-8a6e3db27082cc212e9e5183b25e7c32 Staunch Democrats love burning their money into a defunct party.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Wow, that’s a lot of Israeli poetry for Nancy to have to read.
GraceRandolph Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Abortion rights are OVER. We have to organize outside of electoral politics to solve this issue now. The Democrats will not fight for this.
MotoPapi Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 They get richer and do nothing but perform for tweets and likes on social media. I’m voting Green Party next election.
Beyonnaise Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 Resistance grandmas funneling away their Social Security checks to Dem Congressional campaigns so they can put TV ads in between 2 am reruns of Everybody Loves Raymond for candidates that will still lose to a MAGA’d Republican in the fall
Communion Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 This is still one of the most damning aspects of the 2016 primary: Quote So I followed the money. My predecessor, Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, had not been the most active chair in fundraising at a time when President Barack Obama’s neglect had left the party in significant debt. As Hillary’s campaign gained momentum, she resolved the party’s debt and put it on a starvation diet. It had become dependent on her campaign for survival, for which she expected to wield control of its operations. Quote He described the party as fully under the control of Hillary’s campaign, which seemed to confirm the suspicions of the Bernie camp. The campaign had the DNC on life support, giving it money every month to meet its basic expenses, while the campaign was using the party as a fund-raising clearinghouse. Under FEC law, an individual can contribute a maximum of $2,700 directly to a presidential campaign. But the limits are much higher for contributions to state parties and a party’s national committee. Individuals who had maxed out their $2,700 contribution limit to the campaign could write an additional check for $353,400 to the Hillary Victory Fund—that figure represented $10,000 to each of the 32 states’ parties who were part of the Victory Fund agreement—$320,000—and $33,400 to the DNC. The money would be deposited in the states first, and transferred to the DNC shortly after that. Money in the battleground states usually stayed in that state, but all the other states funneled that money directly to the DNC, which quickly transferred the money to Brooklyn. “Wait,” I said. “That victory fund was supposed to be for whoever was the nominee, and the state party races. You’re telling me that Hillary has been controlling it since before she got the nomination?” Gary said the campaign had to do it or the party would collapse. Quote Right around the time of the convention, the leaked emails revealed Hillary’s campaign was grabbing money from the state parties for its own purposes, leaving the states with very little to support down-ballot races. A Politico story published on May 2, 2016, described the big fund-raising vehicle she had launched through the states the summer before, quoting a vow she had made to rebuild “the party from the ground up … when our state parties are strong, we win. That’s what will happen.” Yet the states kept less than half of 1 percent of the $82 million they had amassed from the extravagant fund-raisers Hillary’s campaign was holding, just as Gary had described to me when he and I talked in August. When the Politico story described this arrangement as “essentially … money laundering” for the Clinton campaign, Hillary’s people were outraged at being accused of doing something shady. Bernie’s people were angry for their own reasons, saying this was part of a calculated strategy to throw the nomination to Hillary.
ClashAndBurn Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Communion said: This is still one of the most damning aspects of the 2016 primary: The thing is, the "mainstream libs" of the democratic party believe that superdelegates giving Hillary the appearance of an insurmountable lead from the beginning of the primary is completely fair and above-board. Nevermind that it depresses turnout (as intended) and makes voters think there's no point in voting if an odious, unlikeable, unelectable figure like Hillary Clinton is just going to win no matter what anyway.
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 What a waste of money: people donating money and getting nothing that they want in return (nothing getting done)
frenchyisback Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 People should have voted in 2016. It’s time to let this go. The republicans will own the Supreme Court of the next 25 years and we need to accept it. The earlier the better.
spree Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 Bernie would've never won regardless. And even now, he's 80 years old....older than Biden. He'll never be President, not sure what the talk is of him all the time. I do agree the primaries were rigged in favor of Hillary. But to her credit, she would've made an amazing President. Just think what would've happened...
Communion Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, spree said: Bernie would've never won regardless. No one is talking about Bernie winning or not. We're talking about how Obama, Clinton and Biden are all looked back on fondly or currently defended despite that we're in this situation because the DNC since 2008 has re-geared itself to focus solely on winning the presidential election, to where things like the Clinton campaign were purposefully anemic in funding state parties and gobbling up resources that could have went to downballot races. The SCOTUS is looking to hand power to largely Republican legislatures not because people didn't vote hard enough but because national Dems didn't bother to fund efforts to protect blue legislatures or turn legislatures blue. Obama's terms as president saw over 1,000 seats across state legislatures go from blue to red.
A Bomb Posted July 4, 2022 Author Posted July 4, 2022 59 minutes ago, Communion said: No one is talking about Bernie winning or not. We're talking about how Obama, Clinton and Biden are all looked back on fondly or currently defended despite that we're in this situation because the DNC since 2008 has re-geared itself to focus solely on winning the presidential election, to where things like the Clinton campaign were purposefully anemic in funding state parties and gobbling up resources that could have went to downballot races. The SCOTUS is looking to hand power to largely Republican legislatures not because people didn't vote hard enough but because national Dems didn't bother to fund efforts to protect blue legislatures or turn legislatures blue. Obama's terms as president saw over 1,000 seats across state legislatures go from blue to red. 3 hours ago, spree said: Bernie would've never won regardless. And even now, he's 80 years old....older than Biden. He'll never be President, not sure what the talk is of him all the time. I do agree the primaries were rigged in favor of Hillary. But to her credit, she would've made an amazing President. Just think what would've happened... Even when we do the favor of highlighting a Democratic Party operative who is calling on fellow party officials to fund local races these loons still pivot to Bernie. CNN, and MSNBC broke your brain!
fab Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Of course the DNC, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, etc. all made mistakes and bear partial responsibility for why we are in this situation. But at the end of the day, it's the GOP who are taking our rights away and trying to turn the US into an autocracy. We need to stop obsessing over past failures and missed opportunities and focus on the future. Primary election is where we can vote on the direction we want our party to go. And I'm not just talking about presidential primaries, but Senate and House races as well. 2016 and 2018 seemed like the start of progressive wave, but it has been kind of halted as of late. And the blame lies not with the DNC or " the Establishment", but the fact that primary turnout is embarrassing, especially with young voters. Voting in the presidential election every four years is just not enough if you want to have your voice heard. Edited July 4, 2022 by fab
Mike91 Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 7 hours ago, frenchyisback said: People should have voted in 2016. It’s time to let this go. The republicans will own the Supreme Court of the next 25 years and we need to accept it. The earlier the better. McConnell wouldn't have allowed Hillary to fill those seats, republicans would have continued to decimate dems in state races, and Hillary would have definitely lost in 2020, still allowing for republicans to stack the Supreme Court. Wouldn't have mattered. Decades of complacency from democrats is what lead us to this moment. Anyways, this is just the way dems like it. Take people's money and do nothing.
katara Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 Lining up their pockets while continuing to do nothing LOL
Communion Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 6 hours ago, fab said: Of course the DNC, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, etc. all made mistakes and bear partial responsibility for why we are in this situation. But at the end of the day, it's the GOP who are taking our rights away and trying to turn the US into an autocracy. We need to stop obsessing over past failures and missed opportunities and focus on the future. Primary election is where we can vote on the direction we want our party to go. And I'm not just talking about presidential primaries, but Senate and House races as well. 2016 and 2018 seemed like the start of progressive wave, but it has been kind of halted as of late. And the blame lies not with the DNC or " the Establishment", but the fact that primary turnout is embarrassing, especially with young voters. Voting in the presidential election every four years is just not enough if you want to have your voice heard. You people are embarrassing at this point and would rather die than course correct. So what do you suggest people do when they send their hard-earned money to the DNC in hopes it goes to state races and then 99% of it is redirected to Kamala's failed elextion bid because no one criticized where the money wad being led to?
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, spree said: Bernie would've never won regardless. And even now, he's 80 years old....older than Biden. He'll never be President, not sure what the talk is of him all the time. I do agree the primaries were rigged in favor of Hillary. But to her credit, she would've made an amazing President. Just think what would've happened... Absolutely false and not based in facts/statistics/evidence. The neolib bias, wow Edited July 4, 2022 by rihannabiggestfan
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted July 4, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted July 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Cyanide said: And what exactly will this help? It'll help the next anti-abortion candidate with an A+ rating from the NRA Nancy and Clyburn endorse.
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