Horizon Flame Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, PopA911 said: is this true? Yes.
bad guy Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Sesame said: SPILL. The crusty old ass needs to drop dead ASAP. It’s embarrassing. Another thing added to the list of broken promises. 1 hour ago, i spit on haters said: And we basically knew this since the leak. Any more genius ideas, @hardbrit? women are now being forced to stock up on however many plan b pills they can get their hands on. Truly jarring. I’m sure people like @hardbrit also support universal free healthcare, free Pre-K, paid maternity leave, and other policies that ensure these forced babies and mothers are taken care of because “pro-life”, right?
Listentoyourheart Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 I remember when The Handmaid's Tale started airing, I thought that such a future is just not fathomable for the US. And whelp, guess what, this is the first step towards it. Americans need to WAKE UP, it's horrifying to watch. Best regards, the civilized world
Horizon Flame Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Gov Hooka said: The outrage for this is going to subside unfortunately. It doesn’t have enough of a material impact on the masses. I wanna be wrong but seeing ppl say just vote is proof that there’s no willingness or desire from the population to organize to *actually* challenge power. Not enough material impact??!! What are you smoking? It’s half the population’s bodies, not to mention couples who don’t want children. Give it some time. Rapists have rights to the children that were birthed as a result of the rape they committed. Women are banned from leaving their states to get an abortion. Hotlines to snitch on those who have gotten or are performing abortions are being set up. 1 in 4 women will have an abortion in her lifetime. This isn’t a minor point. Crime is going to skyrocket. States are planning to try women who get abortions for murder. You have no idea what’s coming. Get ready. Edited June 24, 2022 by Horizon Flame
A Bomb Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, CovalentBondage said: What is the other option? Before I answer I just want to ask a question. Why would voting be an option right now? All polls are showing Democrats are going to lose the house. There are NOT enough flippable Senate seats to overcome the filibuster. Voting is NOT going to help us today or tomorrow or in 2 weeks. Voting is actually the least amount of pressure you could enforce. The filibuster is just a formality that can be DONE AWAY WITH with just a majority vote. Democrats are REFUSING to do that. That is what is preventing us from codifying women’s rights right now! Doing away with the hyde amendment would allow legislation the room to put abortion rights into a budget reconciliation bill by giving everyone household a certain amount of money to have that procedure done. kicking the ball down the street is what Democrats love to do. There is no courage there is no actual want from them to protect anything.
A Bomb Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: That’s irrelevant. Take a civics class. Geez. Aren’t your legs tired dick riding the most incompetent, and spineless political party? The levels of ignorance you constantly display. “we don’t want to do anything but vote for us anyway!!”
ClashAndBurn Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, A Bomb said: Doing away with the hyde amendment would allow legislation the room to put abortion rights into a budget reconciliation bill by giving everyone household a certain amount of money to have that procedure done. I remember when Biden was basically the only Dem on the primary stage who supported the Hyde Amendment and he had to get bullied into switching his position (for youuuuu). I'm sure deep down, he actually still supports it though. Doesn't matter, cause Manchin does too.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 24, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Communion said: Let alone that voting won't do anything if politicians refuse to do as the public wants. Biden is so ideologically opposed to expanding the court that he has reduced himself to a lame duck for the next 2 years while rights are taken away. Everyone who promised he would be pushed to the left and could be convinced of going along with expanding the court should be ashamed. Exactly. They’re, at best, placeholders. There’s value in that, so long as we understand that they’re not going to be proactive actors in protecting us and advancing meaningful change on their own. If people want to vote blue no matter who to do nothing more but stop a Republican, that’s fine. But you cannot become complacent to the Democratic party’s complacency. Even LBJ was only proactive on civil rights because the public held his feet to the fire. We need a stronger and more organized activist effort.
A Bomb Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: I remember when Biden was basically the only Dem on the primary stage who supported the Hyde Amendment and he had to get bullied into switching his position (for youuuuu). I'm sure deep down, he actually still supports it though. Doesn't matter, cause Manchin does too. Liberals refusing to accept that they alone in their sole political action have gotten us here. Stop electing these ******* dinosaurs, my god. It feels like we're already in hell having to fight on every front to save people from their own selfs.
Jynx672 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 This isn't a bad thing actually, it'll get liberals to move to blue states where abortion is legal and make an actual divorce possible. Because let's be honest: America is far too divided to be a functional country at this point.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 24, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jynx672 said: This isn't a bad thing actually, it'll get liberals to move to blue states where abortion is legal and make an actual divorce possible. Because let's be honest: America is far too divided to be a functional country at this point. It won’t… Why do y’all think everyone can “just move” in a country where people can barely afford rent.
Seiko Oomori Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Starfish said: Why do gays care about this? um not everyone on here is a gay man and why wouldn't gays care about the rights of marginalized groups being taken away when they could be next
DAP Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jynx672 said: This isn't a bad thing actually, it'll get liberals to move to blue states where abortion is legal and make an actual divorce possible. Because let's be honest: America is far too divided to be a functional country at this point. The vast majority of women that receive abortions in the US are poor or working class. They don’t have the freedom to uproot and relocate at will.
Jynx672 Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Bloo said: It won’t… Why do y’all think everyone can “just move” in a country where people can barely afford rent. There is a world beyond NYC and other big cities gwurl. The US is an enormous country, far bigger than Europe with huge differences in costs of living. Surely it won't be easy, but it's obvious that liberals and conservatives have very different outlooks on life which makes peaceful co-existence increasingly difficult.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 24, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jynx672 said: There is a world beyond NYC and other big cities gwurl. The US is an enormous country, far bigger than Europe with huge differences in costs of living. Surely it won't be easy, but it's obvious that liberals and conservatives have very different outlooks on life which makes peaceful co-existence increasingly difficult. What does this have to do with anything I just said. You said people can "move" to liberal states. Relocating is an expensive ordeal and acting like it's a tenable solution is childish. Even if that could happen, why would concentrating more left-leaning voters in strong blue states be good when it would literally strengthen conservatives electorally in both presidential and senate races? What you're proposing is basically a split country where LGBTQ+ people can be oppressed and criminalized in red states and free in blue states. That's... not... a solution.
CroNich Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Gwendolyn said: I just cant' understand how a first world country like America can be so backward, Women in America I am so sorry, this is a DISGRACE. America is basically a third world country with a Gucci belt strapped around it
ClashAndBurn Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bloo said: What does this have to do with anything I just said. You said people can "move" to liberal states. Relocating is an expensive ordeal and acting like it's a tenable solution is childish. Even if that could happen, why would concentrating more left-leaning voters in strong blue states be good when it would literally strengthen conservatives electorally in both presidential and senate races? What you're proposing is basically a split country where LGBTQ+ people can be oppressed and criminalized in red states and free in blue states. That's... not... a solution. That’s also not what the outcome would be, as federal bans for gay sex/marriage would be coming down on the blue states just like the federal abortion ban will in 2025.
NoisYBoY Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 How are we going to survive these next few years...
rivers Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 So what states are outright banning abortion with no exceptions?
slik Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Starfish said: Why do gays care about this? Truly selfish and self-centered people have a hard time processing caring about the rights of others, example: see above
DAP Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Miss Show Business said: Voting is the single most important thing everyone can do stop stop these sort of things. This, coupled with protesting is the only way to make your voice HEARD. Not voting is what causes these disastrous decisions. Too many people sat on the sidelines in 2016, and now we're all suffering the consequences. And clearly, government isn’t responding to these “voices” or the interests of the masses. It’s therefore counterintuitive to blame voters rather than the officials and their donors that wield outsized authority on legislation. Edited June 24, 2022 by DAP
Enoch Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, slik said: Truly selfish and self-centered people have a hard time processing caring about the rights of others, example: see above some gays only care about women if they are young, successful, skinny and white Make me think of the post in another thread where “Gays can’t be misogynistic”
Communion Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 America will either morph into a developed socialist country or crumble as a failed Christian nation state. There are no other pathways forward from this moment here on forward.
CaptainMusic Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, hardbrit said: Good! Abortion is murder, the end of life. It's very comfortable to be ok with abortion from the "living" side. There is no life being murdered in an abortion, it’s a clump of cells. It’s very comfortable to not be ok with abortion when you’re a gay MAN who never has to actually carry and take care of the kid. ******* dumbass
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