charts discussion Spotify: Beyoncé's "BREAK MY SOUL" #42 (+1) 1.66M WW, #35 (-6) 447k US [Day 63]

[Great808]

2 hours ago, Queenyoncee said:

the same boring excuse as if the GP cares about leaks 

several songs that leaked still smashed later so your argument doesn’t make sense

 

I guess above your fave since BMH did almost 25% more than SL even though its was not released on a friday with only 20 hours of tracking 
 

Spotify WW:

#5 Break My Soul - 5,145,450

#6 Stupid Love - 4,239,676

 

US:

#2 Break My Soul - 1,990,829

#2 Stupid Love - 1,526,702

 

UK:

#3 Break My Soul - 550,357

#6 Stupid Love - 341,869

People were literally blasting it in clubs for weeks because it leaked, that undermined her by several hundred thousand streams at least. 
 

Cute numbers for a Chromatica reject lets see how it holds up now 

[Shelter]

3 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

Adele doesn't even have the vocal ability to sing her own songs. Hence why she can't show up on that stage to SING after 12 years of a career.

 

Beyonce can do Adele’s songs no question. Could Adele do Beyonce's? And none of that subjective "tone", "soul" and "emotion" b.s applies here. Can she or can she not? 

Clearly not. I love Adele but she is not a versatile singer. Why is she even being mentioned in here. 

[Daydream]

3 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

All these users voted it'd debut with more than 9 million streams:

 

Are there no Hive members amongst those? I know @manwhore is one for sure.

 

Ok thanks for that, I appreciate you’ve come with a receipt so thanks for providing. So these users got their prediction wrong. Now what? It was a poll. Some people were right, some people were wrong. That’s how it works. And overall, fans today are happy with the actual numbers. So what are we to do? Keep badgering on about it?  Is there any point to it? Or should we just be happy with the numbers and enjoy the music?

[orange22]

not the monsters revealing they can’t count 

[ABeyBraith]

12 minutes ago, Pleighboy said:

Huh? I take it you’re not a fan of ballads judging by who you stan. Adele has always been a ballad singer. So if you don’t like her offering, doesn’t make it bad. It’s just not your cup of tea. You all need to learn that. Moreover, any emotional song that makes someone cry (male or woman), is a good song. It means that the intended audience connected with the song. I learned that in songwriting years ago. 

 

Beyonce doesn’t have the vocal ability nor the believability to release an EOM. Her ballads are her weakest offerings, but I digress. 

Say what you want about the streams, I don’t care about stats. But vocal ability? Beyoncé will sing Adele into the GROUND. That’s not an opinion, it’s an objective truth. Range, control, support, musicality, agility. Beyoncé will win, every time. 

[PrudenceHCharmed]

3 hours ago, Trent W said:

This excellent, I was honestly expecting 3m at the most for a Bey lead in 2022.

 

Dua debuted with around 4m with DSN and Billie did around the same with HTE song, which became huge

 

Considering this has legs I think this song will grow a lot.

 

Not Beyoncé doing Billie & Dua's numbers 25 years into her career 

[carameldelight]

The funny thing is B most likely would have debuted with 8m plus had she released on a Friday with a video and top placements. But I’m so happy with these numbers considering the circumstances. The song also has staying power unlike SL. 

[Brando]

Ye that's low, but that's expected from a song aimed so heavily at gays

[Hivy]

 

 

Conisdering Gaga came off a the massive SHALLOW her follow up aka Stupid Love which flopped badly doesn't even compared to Bey.

 

BMS outstreamed>>>>

 

Monsters stay seething in their musty air matresses over the superior artist.

[carameldelight]

8 minutes ago, ScarletWitch said:

These are actually horrible numbers coming off Lemonade  

It only did more than Stupid Love (considering that it leaked 5 weeks prior with way 25% less playlisting), did way less than Willow and Easy On Me  

Girl Spotify is for the general public not the Stans. To the GP SL was her comeback single and had a music video and top placements and B still outdid. Also lemonade was 2016 ??? It’s six years later and she released at 6pm on a Monday night no promo or video.  Gaga was literally coming off shallow hype and Oscar win.

Edited June 23, 2022 by carameldelight

[MardinBeksloy]

This number is not a flop but not a big lead for Bey either. She needs Friday playlisting and a video!!

[NausAllien]

2 minutes ago, ABeyBraith said:

Say what you want about the streams, I don’t care about stats. But vocal ability? Beyoncé will sing Adele into the GROUND. That’s not an opinion, it’s an objective truth. Range, control, support, musicality, agility. Beyoncé will win, every time. 

When it comes to singing there are objective aspects (some of the ones you mention, MINUS musicality), but there are also subjective aspects (tone/timbre, emotion, soul, etc). Beyoncé is objectively better when it comes to objective aspects of singers, but when it comes to subjective aspects, some people may consider Adele better. And the proof is in the pudding, aka the sales. No other artist can sell as much as Adele with JUST her voice. She doesn't need fancy music videos or complex choreography. Her voice alone + her writing really touches a lot of people of all ages, races and genders. That alone shows most people value Adele's voice in ways they don't value Beyoncé.

 

There are things that cannot be taught. As much as Beyoncé has worked to improve her vocal technique, she has always struggled to convey emotions through her singing. It's probably because she's not really that connected to the material she sings, since she doesn't write most of it, but it could also be her Virgo personality and compulsive perfectionism. There's a lot of beauty in the imperfections, but Beyoncé is so controled all the time when singing that she doesn't allow any of that beauty to be shown. When she lets go, she's amazing (most performances of Resentment, 1+1, Me, Myself and I, Halo), but that's been happening less and less as time goes on.

 

[Aren]

3 hours ago, abeille said:

Someone pin this so they finally stop LYING through their teeth!

 

Also

 

Rain On Me is the biggest international debut there tho.

[Mr. Specialist]

Some of y’all are saying these numbers are bad coming after the success of Lemonade, yet these are the biggest streaming debut numbers of her entire solo career so far. What’s not clicking?! 
 

[swissman]

40 minutes ago, Harry said:

seek help sweetie

its literally #1 on TTH

okay so it had an IG bio update and a #1 placement on TTH. Happy?

[Bacardo Royale]

How is this bad for a woman 25 years into her career?  And the song isn't even that good

[Lose My Breath]

I'm still so happy that she debuted with the numbers she did

 

And 5 million overall in the US

 

 

[NausAllien]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said:

Some of y’all are saying these numbers are bad coming after the success of Lemonade, yet these are the biggest streaming debut numbers of her entire solo career so far. What’s not clicking?! 
 

Come on girl, she didn't release "Formation" or Lemonade on Spotify right away. By the time it was released, it was how old? Three years?

 

Now you're being purposely deceitful!

 

[Lose My Breath]

Just now, Bacardo Royale said:

How is this bad for a woman 25 years into her career?  And the song isn't even that good

I like the song, but I agree with you. 

 

If it does half as well as Dua's DSN, which debuted with a million less, I'll be ecstatic

[Lose My Breath]

2 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

Come on girl, she didn't release "Formation" or Lemonade on Spotify right away. By the time it was released, it was how old? Three years?

 

Now you're being purposely deceitful!

 

Nah, y'all saying the numbers are bad are being purposely deceitful

[swissman]

13 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

When it comes to singing there are objective aspects (some of the ones you mention, MINUS musicality), but there are also subjective aspects (tone/timbre, emotion, soul, etc). Beyoncé is objectively better when it comes to objective aspects of singers, but when it comes to subjective aspects, some people may consider Adele better. And the proof is in the pudding, aka the sales. No other artist can sell as much as Adele with JUST her voice. She doesn't need fancy music videos or complex choreography. Her voice alone + her writing really touches a lot of people of all ages, races and genders. That alone shows most people value Adele's voice in ways they don't value Beyoncé.

 

There are things that cannot be taught. As much as Beyoncé has worked to improve her vocal technique, she has always struggled to convey emotions through her singing. It's probably because she's not really that connected to the material she sings, since she doesn't write most of it, but it could also be her Virgo personality and compulsive perfectionism. There's a lot of beauty in the imperfections, but Beyoncé is so controled all the time when singing that she doesn't allow any of that beauty to be shown. When she lets go, she's amazing (most performances of Resentment, 1+1, Me, Myself and I, Halo), but that's been happening less and less as time goes on.

 

People do value Beyoncé's voice, and looking at the sales and recurrent streams of Halo, we can definitely see they appreciate her vocals, that being her last "big ballad" single outside of maybe Love on Top which has has pretty good appreciation by the public as well.

 

The bolded touches on an important aspect in what makes Adele so popular and beloved. You said it yourself, many people of all ages, races and genders love her music. There is a universal quality to her voice (it being on the more "classic" side of pop stylizations) and the lyrics she sings (which seem to largely be general topics of heartbreak that everyone can relate to, or at least not have anything to say against). Compare that to Beyoncé who for the past ten years as almost exclusively sung about feminism, Black feminism, Black Pride or sexuality and you can see that she offers a far less universal appeal than someone like Adele who I don't think has done anything even near to controversial in her career (at least not with her music). If you think this doesn't matter in how the publc sees her, then we wouldn't have feathers being ruffled when she showed Black Pride at the Super Bowl (leading to a threat to boycott her), people deriding her for sexual lyrics (like the shock many people had about Drunk in Love's content) or people invalidating her talent because she "shakes her ass" or think-pieces for and against her feminism.

 

All-in-all, comparing them is a weird thing because they make completely different kinds of music and seem to aim to do completely different kinds of things with it.

[NausAllien]

Just now, Lose My Breath said:

Nah, y'all saying the numbers are bad are being purposely deceitful

The numbers ARE bad FOR Beyoncé's long awaited comeback, sister. What's not clicking? This is Beyoncé's first lead single since "Formation" and it's not even doing HALF of what Adele's "Easy on Me" did? A random Taylor Swift song that wasn't even a single debuted with only 20% fewer streams? 

 

The expectation was obviously 8-9 or more (there were a huge chunk of user as I showed previously that expected it to do more than 9 million)

 

The reality is that it did only 20% more than SL, which was considered a flop. If this doesn't have better legs, it'll be a flop as well.

 

What's not clicking? Seriously asking... 

[TheFameCurse]

36 minutes ago, Great808 said:

People were literally blasting it in clubs for weeks because it leaked, that undermined her by several hundred thousand streams at least. 
 

Cute numbers for a Chromatica reject lets see how it holds up now 

Which clubs?

[KingB®]

Not 21 pages. The Monsters clocked IN.

[Pheromosa]

4 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

Nah, y'all saying the numbers are bad are being purposely deceitful

Them bringing up up Adele and Taylor after she washed gaga is so transparent