Cameltoe Chariot Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Cruel Summer said: Trying to deny Gaga’s status as a trend setting figure, perhaps more than ever with Chromatica, is an exercise in futility. Even beyond the house influences of the era preceding the latest wave of mainstream house with Drake and Beyoncé, and the thematic influence noted above, she also showcased more underground sounds like hyperpop on Dawn Of Chromatica in a way no other artist of her stature had yet done. I feel like she gets discredited a lot in spaces like ATRL where she’s viewed through the “pop girl” lens and compared to the top dance-pop girls of the moment, like Dua, when in truth there’s an entire other side to her as an artist at the forefront of dance and electronic music. There’s a reason albums like The Fame and Chromatica have dominated Billboard’s Dance/Electronic chart to the point where she’s by far the biggest artist in that chart’s history, while other major pop artists aren’t even classified as eligible to chart. 4 hours ago, Ego said: No woman in recent history has dominated the EDM genre in the way Gaga has for so long. She has been consistently the top female artist in the genre since she debuted so it really is her territory. It’s not surprising Beyoncé would draw inspiration from the top of the top for her dance oriented record. It’s smart, even. All of this.
collin Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, carameldelight said: Yeah for the basics and those that don’t care about it’s history. Gaga and Dua make dance music purely just for the pop aesthetic. When an artist like Beyoncé experiments with house it’s in line with the actual culture and history. At a time when the gays, blacks, and woman were under attack house music was created as a form of escape. This is exactly where Beyoncé is coming from; after a pandemic, womens rights under attack, gay/trans being attacked, etc Beyoncé releases a house track entitled “break my soul”. Totally in line with the history/art. There’s levels to that type of genius Dua and Gaga don’t get and aren’t even thinking about. That’s why Bey is supreme. I have been defending Beyonce all week but this really ain’t it. Dua’s remix album was created entirely by a famous Chicago house DJ (a white person, which def takes away from that, but Blessed Madonna included tons of classic house influences in this project). Gaga also was workshopping tons of house influences for her album. Both these albums ended up virtually house-less but they def were thinking about the history in many ways, it just got trampled by modernity by the end.
unclefloprry Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Dua was inspired by the 80s, but okay, I accept Dua's praise.
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted June 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 23, 2022 Imagine if Bloodpop didn't water down Chromatica and it was more heavily house leaning like the demos were hinting at
Swag Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Dua did, Gaga hasnt had a dance pop hit since pa pa pa poka face
Bhabylon Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 6 hours ago, carameldelight said: Yeah for the basics and those that don’t care about it’s history. Gaga and Dua make dance music purely just for the pop aesthetic. When an artist like Beyoncé experiments with house it’s in line with the actual culture and history. At a time when the gays, blacks, and woman were under attack house music was created as a form of escape. This is exactly where Beyoncé is coming from; after a pandemic, womens rights under attack, gay/trans being attacked, etc Beyoncé releases a house track entitled “break my soul”. Totally in line with the history/art. There’s levels to that type of genius Dua and Gaga don’t get and aren’t even thinking about. That’s why Bey is supreme. I love Bey, but you’re really gonna say this and pretend like Bey doesn’t have 50 people working on a single song and era at all times
Danger Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Not “the chromatica effect” people with no lives really just be saying anything
HANZ94 Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Gaga a trendsetter since 2008 wbk Always the standard
Young In Love Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Cruel Summer said: Trying to deny Gaga’s status as a trend setting figure, perhaps more than ever with Chromatica, is an exercise in futility. Even beyond the house influences of the era preceding the latest wave of mainstream house with Drake and Beyoncé, and the thematic influence noted above, she also showcased more underground sounds like hyperpop on Dawn Of Chromatica in a way no other artist of her stature had yet done. I feel like she gets discredited a lot in spaces like ATRL where she’s viewed through the “pop girl” lens and compared to the top dance-pop girls of the moment, like Dua, when in truth there’s an entire other side to her as an artist at the forefront of dance and electronic music. There’s a reason albums like The Fame and Chromatica have dominated Billboard’s Dance/Electronic chart to the point where she’s by far the biggest artist in that chart’s history, while other major pop artists aren’t even classified as eligible to chart.
Bimbo Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Just realized she brought back dance pop and now 90s house 10 years later. Now that’s a legend
Mystic Boy Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 6:39 PM, Trent W said: This is ignorant Future Nostalgia is an 80s disco inspired album Chromatica is 2010s dance pop with some house elements.
WhateverYouWant Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Hilarious that monsters think anyone has been or will be inspired by Chromatica. Her attempt at house music wasn’t good.
tost1 Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 10:29 PM, carameldelight said: Yeah for the basics and those that don’t care about it’s history. Gaga and Dua make dance music purely just for the pop aesthetic. When an artist like Beyoncé experiments with house it’s in line with the actual culture and history. At a time when the gays, blacks, and woman were under attack house music was created as a form of escape. This is exactly where Beyoncé is coming from; after a pandemic, womens rights under attack, gay/trans being attacked, etc Beyoncé releases a house track entitled “break my soul”. Totally in line with the history/art. There’s levels to that type of genius Dua and Gaga don’t get and aren’t even thinking about. That’s why Bey is supreme.
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