MadOnHer Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Protocol said: I remember someone played "Judas" at a house party when it came out. I was 18 years old. The guys were dancing to it in a circle, much like we had to every Gaga song prior. During Fame/Fame Monster it was totally OK for straight (and closeted) guys to dance to her. She was cool, she was different, she was edgy. But something had changed with "Born this Way". As soon as we started bopping to "Judas", this girl walks up with a scoff on her face and says "ew what are you guys doing? This is music for faggots". We all immediately stopped dancing, looking very awkward. Shame came upon our faces. In that moment our pure uninhibited joy had been brutally smothered by the harsh, homophobic expectations of women towards men. There would be no more blissful dancing to Gaga. Now she was 'for gays only'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Yes it was. And it paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrorblade Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Protocol said: I remember someone played "Judas" at a house party when it came out. I was 18 years old. The guys were dancing to it in a circle, much like we had to every Gaga song prior. During Fame/Fame Monster it was totally OK for straight (and closeted) guys to dance to her. She was cool, she was different, she was edgy. But something had changed with "Born this Way". As soon as we started bopping to "Judas", this girl walks up with a scoff on her face and says "ew what are you guys doing? This is music for faggots". We all immediately stopped dancing, looking very awkward. Shame came upon our faces. In that moment our pure uninhibited joy had been brutally smothered by the harsh, homophobic expectations of women towards men. There would be no more blissful dancing to Gaga. Now she was 'for gays only'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwhore Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) yes.. judas was triggering blue maga democrats for being satanic and stuff. lol silly fairy tale fear porn by those conservatives Edited June 22, 2022 by manwhore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Beautiful Tragic Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 In 2011? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Prince Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Somi said: In 2011? Absolutely not. Elaborate on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiel D-01 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Yes, that’s why I love her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Beautiful Tragic Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheFameMonster said: Elaborate on that. Pink had been doing that kind of music way before Ms Germanotta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Stratus Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 controlled risk (a little bit like Chromatica post ASIB) She the hype, GP on her side, was always going to debut #1. But the expeirmentalness of the album itself, and the lyrical content was risky. She lost the GP that era, and instead of trying to get them back in 2013; she went the other way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss It Better Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 theme wise? absolutely, like Born This Way and Judas among others it made the religious people went mad, like my religion teacher in middle school was campaigning against Gaga, so as a OGH at the time (i'm a casual fan now) i was like "yaasss get her for me" sounds wise? i guess not really but it's not safe either, because it was a more experimental than TF/TFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratviolo Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Releasing Born This Way (single AND album) at her peak when she was the biggest star in the world by far is one of the riskiest moves ever for a pop girl, it ain't even up for debate 6 hours ago, Protocol said: I remember someone played "Judas" at a house party when it came out. I was 18 years old. The guys were dancing to it in a circle, much like we had to every Gaga song prior. During Fame/Fame Monster it was totally OK for straight (and closeted) guys to dance to her. She was cool, she was different, she was edgy. But something had changed with "Born this Way". As soon as we started bopping to "Judas", this girl walks up with a scoff on her face and says "ew what are you guys doing? This is music for faggots". We all immediately stopped dancing, looking very awkward. Shame came upon our faces. In that moment our pure uninhibited joy had been brutally smothered by the harsh, homophobic expectations of women towards men. There would be no more blissful dancing to Gaga. Now she was 'for gays only'. Why is this somehow so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Yes and I’m glad she took that risk tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceania Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Not really. She's been a blatant LGBT supporter since day 1 so it was nothing shocking or groundbreaking. Besides, the song is about self-acceptance in general and it wasn't specifically geared towards the gay audience. Not to mention that 2011 is not 1981. Risk is relative tho. Imagine Eminem releasing a song like BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyManInTheWorld Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Protocol said: I remember someone played "Judas" at a house party when it came out. I was 18 years old. The guys were dancing to it in a circle, much like we had to every Gaga song prior. During Fame/Fame Monster it was totally OK for straight (and closeted) guys to dance to her. She was cool, she was different, she was edgy. But something had changed with "Born this Way". As soon as we started bopping to "Judas", this girl walks up with a scoff on her face and says "ew what are you guys doing? This is music for faggots". We all immediately stopped dancing, looking very awkward. Shame came upon our faces. In that moment our pure uninhibited joy had been brutally smothered by the harsh, homophobic expectations of women towards men. There would be no more blissful dancing to Gaga. Now she was 'for gays only'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrighost Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 no, Firework was smashing at the time and so was We R Who We R, Fckn Perfect, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hephaestus Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 8 hours ago, OreGuy said: at the literal height of her career? yes. She was bold, frank and openly political at a time when it was still a risk to do so, as one article once said. Period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hephaestus Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Protocol said: I remember someone played "Judas" at a house party when it came out. I was 18 years old. The guys were dancing to it in a circle, much like we had to every Gaga song prior. During Fame/Fame Monster it was totally OK for straight (and closeted) guys to dance to her. She was cool, she was different, she was edgy. But something had changed with "Born this Way". As soon as we started bopping to "Judas", this girl walks up with a scoff on her face and says "ew what are you guys doing? This is music for faggots". We all immediately stopped dancing, looking very awkward. Shame came upon our faces. In that moment our pure uninhibited joy had been brutally smothered by the harsh, homophobic expectations of women towards men. There would be no more blissful dancing to Gaga. Now she was 'for gays only'. I'm in no way shaming or mocking, but the way you worded this makes it so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winged Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 not really she was just striking the iron whilst was hot and trying to benefit off The Fame era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnusualBoy Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 It was a very bold move from and also risky, I mean it basically alienated a big part of her supporters back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superben Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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