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  1. 1. Would you classify Chromatica as 'house' music?

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It’s a dance pop record with primarily 90s house, disco, electronic and traditional pop influences. 

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2 minutes ago, Archetype said:

That's where I think a lot of people on this forum are wrong.  Popular musicians listen to Gaga's records, she's still one of the biggest pop artists today.  This is the 3rd or 4th time in Gaga's career that she's released an album with a particular sound that immediately pre-cursed a wave of albums with similar sounds and inspirations.  We can either pretend that it's a super strange coincidence this continues to happen or actually acknowledge that she's been incredibly influential in driving the sound of pop over the past decade.


I’m not trying to shade Chromatica because it was the first time I loved something that Gaga put out.

 

But there’s no way Drake and Bey released house music because of an album that came out 2 years ago that underperformed. Bey has been working on this album since like 2018/2019 there are even rumors it was supposed to come out in 2020 with a WW tour and it got delayed by the pandemic.

 

The timing of Gaga influenced Beyonce doesn’t make any sense from any angle.

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We all know this album is deeply house influenced but the final product sanded off almost all of the original elements you hear in the demos that are classically house. The final product is much more dancepop/EDM and the moments of house are few and far between in the album.

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Yes, just admit Beyoncé is following the trend  :giraffe:

 

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7 minutes ago, Trent W said:


I’m not trying to shade Chromatica because it was the first time I loved something that Gaga put out.

 

But there’s no way Drake and Bey released house music because of an album that came out 2 years ago that underperformed. Bey has been working on this album since like 2018/2019 there are even rumors it was supposed to come out in 2020 with a WW tour and it got delayed by the pandemic.

 

The timing of Gaga influenced Beyonce doesn’t make any sense from any angle.

I'm not saying Beyonce or Drake listened to Chromatica and said "I WANT TO DO THISSSSSS", but it is 100% true the trend was already there by the time their new material dropped. 

 

Chromatica was released in 2020.  If any artist started working on their album the year before and was still in the process of making it 2 years later, it makes complete sense for that artist to have listened to new music in 2020 and even 2021 and have it consciously or subconsciously influence their output.  It's actually super important when recording or just starting an album to spit ideas around, listen to old and new, try many beats, work with different writers, etc. 

 

The end result is this one song hopping on a trend mostly started by Gaga.  Maybe the rest of the album will be completely different.  Gaga also doesn't own house music (and no one would ever suggest that), so maybe Bey just felt this was the right time to make house music.  Regardless, like I said before, this is like the 3rd or 4th time Gaga has released something that influenced trends in pop music.

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2 hours ago, brainmaniac said:

Lots of reviews pointed out how Chromatica was House/House influenced on its release. It’s not something that just came out of nowhere, so people referring to the album as House/House influenced now isn’t some outrageous or surprising thing :rip:

 

 

Well end thread 

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2 hours ago, HASHTAGPOW said:

Household waste maybe

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No, it's electro pop - which is influenced by house music, but not really, house. 

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2 hours ago, Juanny said:

what make Beyoncé’s song ‘more house’? What does that even mean, the song is either House beats / tempo / beat pattern or not. Do you know what house music is to be saying this?

It is longer than 3 minutes for starters, opens and closes with the classic four on floor beats (will make it easier to mix it into sets), incorporates less of a melodically driven pop sounding chorus and relies more on classic soulful Chicago house elements. The house inspired tracks on Chromatica have heavy dance pop, mainstream EDM elements thrown in. Beyoncé’s song’s elements are more gospel, soul, disco which is truer to the *original* house sound. 
And yes I’m a huge house, techno, and trance fan and regularly go to actual shows/festivals/underground events to catch my fav house artists... Will be attending Arc in Chicago for the second year sooo yeah not claiming to be an expert but I am a dedicated fan and that’s my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️

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The title of this thread should be “Should ATRL invalidate the genre of music Gaga was making so it can pretend Beyoncé wasn’t at least partially influenced by her?”

 

The reverse of your same point can be made. No one disputed that Chrome was house until Bey dropped her song and suddenly everyone here wants to pretend it isn’t house. 
 

Yes, Chromatica is house or at least heavily inspired.

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It's toilet music, not the entire house :coffee:

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it's not house:rip: i don't get why people are calling it house, the only house sounding track is Babylon

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Yes, albeit more genre mixed and commercialized than a more pure house record and to varying degrees on different songs on the album. This is pretty clear as day, no?

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No, more like dance/edm

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4 hours ago, Aristide said:

But people are saying the only reason Beyonce is releasing house music is because Chromatica brought the genre to the mainstream with hits like ROM.

But Rain on me isn’t a house song??? That’s one of the least house songs on the record

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It surely has house influenced songs, but not the whole album is like that. It has other influences from dance/edm aswell

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the liddos are delusional to think that Beyoncé was spinning chromatica while making this album when she literally samples the beat from and interpolates lyrics from two separate Black house songs. 
 

it somehow fits y’all’s narrative better that Gaga’s biggest underperforming album is influential when the reality is Beyoncé just does research on historically Black music and does her take on it—see: her At Last cover, the jazz portion of I am Yours, doing an entire afrobeats album, etc

 

Just because chromatica also has house elements does not make it influential. Like pls…

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No, it’s more of a haus music.

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It’s a hybrid of traditional house elements and big room EDM, depending on the track, that Bloodpop/Gaga unfortunately watered down to make more pop, given what’ve we’ve heard from the ROM and FW demos. The only real dance pop song is Stupid Love honestly 

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4 hours ago, Aristide said:

But how can you be sure there's zero chance Chromatica influenced Beyonce? How would you know? Yeah it may be a reach, but, unfortunately, there's a fairly strong argument that it did influence Beyonce because she dropped house music after Gaga's hit ROM introduced the mainstream to house.

And it was revealed today that she actually started working on the album during the pandemic which is when Gaga released her album. :gaycat2:

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4 hours ago, collin said:

We all know this album is deeply house influenced but the final product sanded off almost all of the original elements you hear in the demos that are classically house. The final product is much more dancepop/EDM and the moments of house are few and far between in the album.

This. :cm:

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5 hours ago, Gov Hooka said:

It is longer than 3 minutes for starters, opens and closes with the classic four on floor beats (will make it easier to mix it into sets), incorporates less of a melodically driven pop sounding chorus and relies more on classic soulful Chicago house elements. The house inspired tracks on Chromatica have heavy dance pop, mainstream EDM elements thrown in. Beyoncé’s song’s elements are more gospel, soul, disco which is truer to the *original* house sound. 
And yes I’m a huge house, techno, and trance fan and regularly go to actual shows/festivals/underground events to catch my fav house artists... Will be attending Arc in Chicago for the second year sooo yeah not claiming to be an expert but I am a dedicated fan and that’s my opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️

There is NO requirement for a house track for being a certain length. MANY house tracks are at or below 3 minutes. Look at housewerk playlist on Spotify for instance. Somehow if you double length of a song it becomes a diff genre? Miss us with that, that has nothing to do with house music.

 

House is a very diverse and has many different sounds. And you will know this if you are a house fan, there is so many genres of house. The only requirement is what makes house House, and that is the beat of this dance music genre.

 

You and everybody else is changing what it means to be a house track to fit your narrative. It’s not about track length. It’s not about ncorporating gospel or whatever sounds. if you don’t know that you have to research more and read basic knowledge on what it is. Google is free

 

and yes it’s your opinion but you are literally claiming alternative facts. Just Google. Look at what it means to be house music. None of what you said is true of it

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9 hours ago, yeezytaughtme said:

A bit, yes. It’s more dance-pop.

This. It's mainly a dance-pop and EDM album with house influence.

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