ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Delirious said: ummm sis...he didn't lie at all. i know him irl and he's actually who he says he is. he attends ellie's events etc. all the time. and everything he says is true He said single next week and BOZ just clarified that’s not true He also changed the story from their friends being at the event to him being at the event and would have probably gotten away with it if I couldn’t still see hidden posts as a mod Sorry your friend was caught in a few lies here like they were yesterday, but we really need to move past this debacle.
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, khalyan said: He said single next week and BOZ just clarified that’s not true He also changed the story from their friends being at the event to him being at the event and would have probably gotten away with it if I couldn’t still see hidden posts as a mod Sorry your friend was caught in a few lies here like they were yesterday, but we really need to move past this debacle. wasn't this was how the entire argument started? Cameron was the one who said single next week on Twitter so Lola was calling him out on it, unless I'm missing something. On 9/18/2022 at 12:11 AM, lola4789 said: Is it save to say the next single might be coming next week? On 9/18/2022 at 1:05 AM, Cqmerqn said: What makes you think that? On 9/19/2022 at 5:41 PM, lola4789 said: You were one of the people saying that so, why don't you tell me
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Delirious said: wasn't this was how the entire argument started? Cameron was the one who said single next week on Twitter so Lola was calling him out on it, unless I'm missing something. Cameron never said that (or at least that I can find or saw, I’ve been following them on Twitter for a few months now), so I guess that’s just another lie that Lola user made up. It’s pretty clear at this point which member is the issue.
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, khalyan said: Cameron never said that (or at least that I can find or saw, I’ve been following them on Twitter for a few months now), so I guess that’s just another lie that Lola user made up. It’s pretty clear at this point which member is the issue. Ok but you said that lola said the single was coming next week but he never said that...? I also have the unedited ss but I edited it just incase of doxxing rules
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Delirious said: Ok but you said that lola said the single was coming next week but he never said that...? I also have the unedited ss but I edited it just incase of doxxing rules You literally quoted the post that Lola says “safe to say single next week” Also, whatever you posted doesn’t appear it’s from twitter so I’m not privy to that, plus it’s obviously edited so who really knows at this point
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 Like I’ve already asked, this thread needs to return to discussion about the single and not Lola’s attempt to lie or what y’all feel about other users.
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, khalyan said: You literally quoted the post that Lola says “safe to say single next week” Also, whatever you posted doesn’t appear it’s from twitter so I’m not privy to that, plus it’s obviously edited so who really knows at this point girl...he posted that literally because cameron said that the single is coming on sept 23.... hence why he wrote "You were one of the people saying that so, why don't you tell me " and seriously now... i can send u the unedited ss if u want it privately in dms but i purposely edited it incase of doxxing
ATRL Moderation Team Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Delirious said: girl...he posted that literally because cameron said that the single is coming on sept 23.... hence why he wrote "You were one of the people saying that so, why don't you tell me " and seriously now... i can send u the unedited ss if u want it privately in dms but i purposely edited it incase of doxxing 46 minutes ago, khalyan said: Sorry your friend was caught in a few lies here like they were yesterday, but we really need to move past this debacle. 9 minutes ago, khalyan said: Like I’ve already asked, this thread needs to return to discussion about the single and not Lola’s attempt to lie or what y’all feel about other users. Any future discussion regarding this subject will be warned as off topic.
revivval Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 Yeah this is like her worst LEAD single ever but i like this song it has just that weak chorus anyway she is gonna delivered bop of the year with her next song i just feel it.
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, revivval said: Yeah this is like her worst LEAD single ever but i like this song it has just that weak chorus anyway she is gonna delivered bop of the year with her next song i just feel it. What about under the sheets?
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Delirious said: What about under the sheets? Under the Sheets is FANTASTIC What do we count as the lead from BB? Close to Me or Power? UTS > Power > OMM > Easy Lover > ACH >>>> CTM
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, khalyan said: Under the Sheets is FANTASTIC What do we count as the lead from BB? Close to Me or Power? UTS > Power > OMM > Easy Lover > ACH >>>> CTM 9 minutes ago, WyldChyld said: Agreed about Under the Sheets. I’d say that Close to Me is Brightest Blue’s lead single, but in my heart Flux should’ve been it. At least Flux has picked up some okay amount of streams over the years. ACH > UTS > OMM > EL/CTM. For me its Lights = Anything = On My Mind = Burn > Close To Me > Under the sheets > easy lover
Delirious Posted September 21, 2022 Author Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, WyldChyld said: So it’s kinda obvious that we’re solely talking about singles that started off the entire respective era without outside influences factoring in, not re-release singles or otherwise. Otherwise who’s to say that Your Song wasn’t technically the first single to coincide with a re-release? Or that Love Me Like You Do wasn’t actually the first single from Delirium? Or that Halcyon Days was re-released with Beating Heart on the disc, so that somehow counts as another era? Ok true well take out burn and lights from the list. im ready for the lashings ???
Haze Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 Honestly, Ellie needs to build back a fan base. It's so telling how the gays don't live for her, when they stan literally any pop girl. She just needs a dedicated point of view, and it /is/ still there, it's just burried under easy attempts at a hit that fail to rope you in if you're not a fan already. She has a few streaming evergreens, she doesn't need the hits anymore. She needs people to actually engage with her albums. For that to happen she has to stop drowning out her own voice: the lyrics on lights are still so good because she had this own poetic landscape. BB made me hope again that the Ellie I care about is resurfacing, but easy lover is just ... there. It's so inoffensive that it's forgettable. Also, bring back the acoustic guitar as a backbone, dig up the folktronica roots and leave the urban/r&b inspired phrasings and sounds bevind, they don't suit her.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 21, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Haze said: Honestly, Ellie needs to build back a fan base. It's so telling how the gays don't live for her, when they stan literally any pop girl. She just needs a dedicated point of view, and it /is/ still there, it's just burried under easy attempts at a hit that fail to rope you in if you're not a fan already. She has a few streaming evergreens, she doesn't need the hits anymore. She needs people to actually engage with her albums. For that to happen she has to stop drowning out her own voice: the lyrics on lights are still so good because she had this own poetic landscape. BB made me hope again that the Ellie I care about is resurfacing, but easy lover is just ... there. It's so inoffensive that it's forgettable. Also, bring back the acoustic guitar as a backbone, dig up the folktronica roots and leave the urban/r&b inspired phrasings and sounds bevind, they don't suit her. I was hoping she’d see the reception to Power and the other side 1 songs versus the reception to CTM/Hate Me and realize this. We’ve heard good things from the insiders about the new era so I’m still cautiously optimistic.
XAMJ Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 Idk what went wrong with Ellie, she was the IT girl. She still my girl tho
Haze Posted September 21, 2022 Posted September 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, khalyan said: I was hoping she’d see the reception to Power and the other side 1 songs versus the reception to CTM/Hate Me and realize this. We’ve heard good things from the insiders about the new era so I’m still cautiously optimistic. Yes, but what I've heard is that it's banger after banger - which I like obviously, but I'm also tired of her putting her name on songs that could've just as easily been written/sung by others. She's better than that. She's proved that in the past. Anyway, i'll stop complaining, it's just been infuriating as a Stan from her very first EP lol.
sam.teas Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Ellie Goulding - Easy Lover (The Remixes) \ 23.09.2022: Navos Remix [feat. Big Sean] - 2:44 Colbath Remix [feat. Big Sean] - 3:34 Russ Chimes Remix - 3:35 Edited September 22, 2022 by sam.teas
Delirious Posted September 22, 2022 Author Posted September 22, 2022 Why no other songs in the EP weeeee. where's the other 3 remixes
ahauntingnearu Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 19 hours ago, WyldChyld said: To me, almost everything about how Ellie has progressed and developed her career over the years has basically been antithetical building a dedicated fanbase once she finished the large amount of touring she did initially. There’s nothing on her website that promotes and encourages active community growth or updates to follow. Her emailing list is so infrequently used and might as well be a link to her most recent tweet for when she’s releasing a single. Speaking of which: her Twitter is full of painfully average political observations, environmental common sense takes, promoting Served seltzer and retweeting some ultimately meaningless Spotify milestone. It might as well be run by a bot it’s so predictable. It’s also like there’s not been any real wow moments, events or progression to her overall story to make it meaningfully exciting or many recent landmark moments to really cement artistic growth and evolution of her songwriting. If anything it’s almost devolved when comparing most of her modern singles to Bright Lights. People could easily describe her as a collab, covers and soundtrack artist (not that she’s done any successful soundtrack songs in nearly 8 years; and no, I don’t count SFFY as one, it went viral fairly recently in spite of it being a soundtrack song, not because it was one) and they really wouldn’t be wrong in the slightest. Is that the trajectory and synopsis that many songwriters want applied to them? Doubtful. She always talks about her love of Kate Bush, Joni Mitchell and Björk, but I wonder if she’s ever stopped to ask herself if they’d have a percentage of the loyal fanbase and critical success if they were too scared to meaningfully grow as artists or waste their time doing disposable attempted trend chart chasing tracks? Just makes her seem not very self aware or like she has anything meaningful to contribute to the musical world apart from “bops”. *Breaks silence* ISSA FLOP Now with Easy Lover she’s still singing about toxic relationships with an American artist. Hoorah. Just like on Close to Me. And Hate Me. And Worry About Me. And Slow Grenade. It’s like a Spotify algorithm is dictating her career. Totally agree. I'd never really thought this extensively about it all until I saw someone post about her vs. Florence, comparing their trajectories and how Florence chose art, albums, integrity - and how that paid off so well as she'll have a (small but) dedicated fanbase for life and always be looked at with respect, more and more over time. Whereas Ellie went the total opposite and is just 'there' (at best). That all said, maybe Ellie's been forced in directions that we're not totally aware of; can't blame her for EVERYTHING.
ahauntingnearu Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, WyldChyld said: I’m not doing the blame game. She is her own adult person and must have willingly kept re-signing with the same label for 13 years for at a point: https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/4581912.herefordshire-singer-ellie-goulding-signs-recording-deal-with-polydor/ Bonus photo: https://www.herefordtimes.com/announcements/birthdays/birthday/4919280.goulding/ Maybe she’s just very laissez-faire with her career at this point and doesn’t feel the need to be overly artistic and foster any meaningful growth or anything anymore. Not everyone can be like Florence, Taylor, Halsey, Carly, Kate, Joni or Björk with their growth and loyal fanbases I suppose. She’s never to my knowledge bothered to publicly attack her own label in frustration like Halsey has recently, nor does she even seem that outwardly bothered about the modern direction of her music except calling Sixteen her worst song. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Florence_and_the_Machine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Ellie_Goulding I’d admit what you were saying seems to be pretty well reflected in how they’re each nominated and what they’ve won over the years. Most bigger institutions and the music focused publications have certainly more consistently nominated and rewarded Florence more over time. The Mercury, Grammy and NME nomination disparity is quite a sight to behold. While Ellie just instead writes a sad Medium article that “started a conversation” that no-one bothered continuing: https://elliegoulding.medium.com/the-start-of-a-conversation-cc0e86733f37 Here’s to some more remixes I guess. Ooof No but you're right, you're right - maybe most of all about her probably not really caring to do/be more than she currently is. I hate to admit it but Halcyon was clearly a fluke in a sense.. BB was a nice attempt at artistic credibility, though - but I think it just seemed better relative to Delirium and those godforsaken singles in between. In retrospect, it's quite a dull album, apart from maybe a few tracks. I think her at her peak artistry was all just . . a fun, experimental, prolific time of her career - one where her personal life bled into the music just enough to make magic happen, almost a la My December by Kelly. But very similarly to that, there's nothing else to prove there's really anything . . special. They're just there, IMO - and that's totally fine. Ellie's a great vocalist and makes cool pop music often; maybe her fans should expect a little less - or at least a little different - from her. IDK.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 22, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted September 22, 2022 Russ Chimes remix could be cute, I'll listen at midnight -- Her and Florence were really at the same place career wise with their second albums. Both came out around the same time with unique but light albums and quickly switched into a dark/moody album that a lot of their respective fans find to be some of their best work. But while Florence followed that up with her magnum opus HBHBHB, Ellie followed hers up with the lackluster Halcyon Days/Delirium. It's very interesting to see how their careers went after that. While Ellie got a few hits because of the path she went down, including Burn, OMM, and LMLYD, she's left at a crossroads of her career now where lots of people are completely uninterested in what she does because her role in pop music can be easily filled by artists like Bebe Rexha and Halsey. And Florence does not have those few hits, she's built up her fanbase and releases critically acclaimed music and will likely be able to sustain her career at the level it is now for the rest of her life.
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