*-ChriZ-* Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: I’m well aware. The weekly points for Billboard for sales and streams are from Friday - Thursday. So, yes, what happens during this tracking week, will be reflected in the Billboard Charts that will be released on August 2nd. It makes no sense to wait until the tracking week of July 29th to buy the Instrumental and A Capella when we have the opportunity right now to push the song into the Top 5 before the beginning of the July 29th tracking week. But that doesnt make any sense since a) Radio will be even stronger during album release b) BMS streams will naturally repeak and maybe even outperform its first week streams due to the album drop c) theres the possibility of BMS getting its MV that week as well, further providing points thanks to the views If u consider that, it makes most sense using all our buying power as fans that particular week to maximize sales as well. Who cares about a small potential dip next week when BMS has the likelihood of smashing into the Top3 the week after.
Lovett Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 35,723 copies in the UK this week, total now stands at 162,535. Will be certified Silver on album release week!
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: But that doesnt make any sense since a) Radio will be even stronger during album release b) BMS streams will naturally repeak and maybe even outperform its first week streams due to the album drop c) theres the possibility of BMS getting its MV that week as well, further providing points thanks to the views If u consider that, it makes most sense using all our buying power as fans that particular week to maximize sales as well. Who cares about a small potential dip next week when BMS has the likelihood of smashing into the Top3 the week after. It makes absolute sense since people can buy the versions AGAIN during the July 29th tracking week if they choose to do so. And we know radio will increase plus the music video will most likely be out. Furthermore, why settle for Top 3 when buying this week will help guarantee it going #1?! Do what y’all want but skipping out on buying the Instrumental & A Capella this week is not smart at all.
QueenBLadyG Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 I might have to buy another vinyl. One that will remain unopened and rise in value over the years, and the other to relish in using my brand new record player. I have a feeling this one-time pressing will be quite the collectors item.
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, G'Day said: This doesn’t make any sense. The song’s position on the charts for this tracking week doesn’t at all affect the tracking week of July 29 when the album is out. We can buy this week but if July 29 rolls around and no one buys or streams the song that week, a higher position the week prior isn’t going to make a difference. People are not going to buy the same versions of the song both this week and next week (you also can’t even do that on iTunes since you can only purchase once) so it makes the most sense for everyone to buy all the versions the week the album comes out when it’s going to increase due to people listening to the whole album + hopefully some sort of visual. Y’all aren’t understanding. It makes absolute sense. When I said buying this week will help the song guarantee to go #1, I’m talking about WITH the tracking week of July 29th COMBINED since buying this week can help raise the song on the chart before the tracking week of July 29th even begins. People will naturally buy and stream the song when July 29th comes because that’s the album release date. People, especially the Hive on Twitter who are committed to getting the song to go #1, will buy the same versions of the song both weeks. You can’t do it on iTunes, but you can most definitely do it on her store website and on the Tidal store. The sales will count.
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, G'Day said: The charts do not take into account a song’s position the week prior. A song at #3 does not have a better chance at going #1 the next week compared to a song at #8, if the song at #8 ends up getting more points during the following tracking week than the song at #3. Why do you think so many songs that debut at #1 tank the following week? A song’s performance on the chart the week before has little correlation to its performance the week after, it’s all about how much that song gets consumed only during said tracking week. Yes and no. In general, for sales and streams, you are correct. THIS scenario is different. Break My Soul will have a better chance of going #1 if the chart position is higher prior to July 29th. Why? Because sales and streams for singles are always higher during the album release week. Plus, a music video will most likely be out on the 29th. Nobody is talking about combining points for multiple weeks. I’m talking about the increase of sales and streams for this tracking week + even bigger increase of sales and streams during the album release week will result in a great chance of it going #1. Edited July 22, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
FAN Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 Predicted to be in the top 10 again she really came through with this smash. I do feel like it’s losing steam though due to lack of visibility. No video, no promo, not really any social media activity etc
suneclipse121 Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, FAN said: Predicted to be in the top 10 again she really came through with this smash. I do feel like it’s losing steam though due to lack of visibility. No video, no promo, not really any social media activity etc Well any steam lost will be regained next Friday when the album drops so its all good
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, G'Day said: The only streams and sales that will determine if BMS goes #1 the week after album release will be whatever streams and sales the song gets between July 29 and August 4. Not a single stream or sale before midnight on July 29 will have any affect on its chart position the next tracking week because none of those streams and sales will be tracked because they’re from the prior week. What part of I already know a prior week’s points do not get combined with a current week’s points don’t you understand? I SPECIFICALLY said and explained in clear English that if a song has a bigger increase in sales and streams in the next week (album release week) than it did during the prior week (this tracking week), than it will move UP the chart (due to the chart points for the next week being greater than the current week). Therefore, the song’s position would move up the chart twice since there was an increase in sales and streams twice. I don’t understand why that is so hard to comprehend. Edited July 22, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
*-ChriZ-* Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: What part of I already know a prior week’s points do not get combined with a current week’s points don’t you understand? I SPECIFICALLY said and explained in clear English that if a song has a bigger increase in sales and streams in the next week (album release week) than it did during the prior week (this tracking week), than it will move UP the chart (due to the chart points for the next week being greater than the current week). Therefore, the song’s position would move up the chart twice since there was an increase in sales and streams twice. I don’t understand why that is so hard to comprehend. I think ur talking about buying both weeks whereas we are talking about chosing which week is better since we do not plan to buy twice.
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 Just now, *-ChriZ-* said: I think ur talking about buying both weeks whereas we are talking about chosing which week is better since we do not plan to buy twice. You don’t have to buy twice. A good amount of people will buy twice though. My original point was that Beyoncé gave us the perfect setup to increase the sales and streams on Break My Soul two weeks in a row. Why not take advantage of that? It is not smart to discourage people from buying the Instrumental and A Capella this week.
ToraeGilt Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, G'Day said: The charts do not take into account a song’s position the week prior. A song at #3 does not have a better chance at going #1 the next week compared to a song at #8, if the song at #8 ends up getting more points during the following tracking week than the song at #3. Why do you think so many songs that debut at #1 tank the following week? A song’s performance on the chart the week before has little correlation to its performance the week after, it’s all about how much that song gets consumed only during said tracking week. Exactly! Like how are they not getting this???? The only positive to buying this week is that if BMS slightly increases, it may motivate the hive to buy again the following week but the most effective method is to wait until album release week to maximize the buying power. The song will stabilize in the top 10 until then
Noodles Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: You don’t have to buy twice. A good amount of people will buy twice though. My original point was that Beyoncé gave us the perfect setup to increase the sales and streams on Break My Soul two weeks in a row. Why not take advantage of that? It is not smart to discourage people from buying the Instrumental and A Capella this week. Girl the question is for people who only buy it ONCE, otherwise they wouldn't ask If only buy once, buy it during album release week. And contrary to your belief, most people wouldn't buy it twice, only hardcore stans do.
Armani? Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 What's the point of buying it this week for a #6 peak at best, when it will just outpeak it the week after Just wait till next week
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, G'Day said: Chart points are not tied to previous weeks. Chart points are calculated using data during a singular tracking week. A new song could be released on July 29, and if it sold enough and gained enough streams that calculated into more chart points than BMS during that single week, it would chart higher than BMS even if it was N/A on the Billboard Hot 100 the week before. I don’t know what’s not clicking but I’m not gonna start whipping out the algebra to try to explain it. You keep saying you understand points don’t get combined but then you try and say that a bigger increase from the week before will mean higher chart points, but those chart points would be the same regardless of how the song performed the week prior because those points were accumulated during the singular tracking week… You keep repeating yourself after I specifically said numerous times that I already know weekly chart points are not tied together. I broke it down very nicely for you to understand a song’s increase in sales and streams for this week and an even BIGGER increase the next week will result in the song’s position rising on the chart twice, since that will result in the chart point calculation for the next week being higher than the previous week. The chart points for both weeks will NOT be the same. I’m not the one with the comprehension problem here.
*-ChriZ-* Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: You keep repeating yourself after I specifically said numerous times that I already know weekly chart points are not tied together. I broke it down very nicely for you to understand a song’s increase in sales and streams for this week and an even BIGGER increase the next week will result in the song’s position rising on the chart twice, since that will result in the chart point calculation for the next week being higher than the previous week. The chart points for both weeks will NOT be the same. I’m not the one with the comprehension problem here. But a chart run that looks like 15-7-9-9-7-9-2 is better than 15-7-9-9-7-6-4 because we'd have the better peak during album release then
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BinhTran1997 said: Girl the question is for people who only buy it ONCE, otherwise they wouldn't ask If only buy once, buy it during album release week. And contrary to your belief, most people wouldn't buy it twice, only hardcore stans do. And there are a lot of hardcore stans on twitter who will. I said that. 11 minutes ago, G'Day said: The Billboard Hot 100 is not based on increases from the week before, it’s about what each song is able to accumulate during the single tracking week. You’re thinking too much about week-to-week comparisons instead of realizing that BMS could drop to #15 this week and still go #1 the week after if it gets enough streams and sales to receive more points than every other song on the chart. I’m very aware it’s not based on increases from week to week. I was using the week to week comparison as an example how a song could rise on the chart. The point is why allow the song to drop this week even though it could get enough streams and sales than every other song during album release week? 9 minutes ago, Armani? said: What's the point of buying it this week for a #6 peak at best, when it will just outpeak it the week after Why allow the possibility of it dropping? Edited July 22, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
Armani? Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Why allow the possibility of it dropping? It's not going to fall out the top 10 at this point with radio still increasing
ToraeGilt Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: What part of I already know a prior week’s points do not get combined with a current week’s points don’t you understand? I SPECIFICALLY said and explained in clear English that if a song has a bigger increase in sales and streams in the next week (album release week) than it did during the prior week (this tracking week), than it will move UP the chart (due to the chart points for the next week being greater than the current week). Therefore, the song’s position would move up the chart twice since there was an increase in sales and streams twice. I don’t understand why that is so hard to comprehend. No lol. This is not how it works. You’re looking at chart placement instead of points accumulated during that specific week. BMS could drop to no.30 this tracking week and if it gets enough points the following week it can rise to no.1. The chart placement this week will not have any impact on the chart placement the following week. It will not make it harder or easier. All that matters is the points accumulated during the tracking week the album is released. If that’s not clear idk what else to say
Mr. Specialist Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Armani? said: It's not going to fall out the top 10 at this point with radio still increasing Even if it remains in the Top 10, the point is to not let the song fall this week at all. 11 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said: No lol. This is not how it works. You’re looking at chart placement instead of points accumulated during that specific week. BMS could drop to no.30 this tracking week and if it gets enough points the following week it can rise to no.1. The chart placement this week will not have any impact on the chart placement the following week. It will not make it harder or easier. All that matters is the points accumulated during the tracking week the album is released. If that’s not clear idk what else to say 10 minutes ago, G'Day said: And you keep repeating that a song will rise due to its increase in sales and streams (from the previous week) and don’t see how you keep talking about increases as if this is the Hot 100 Increase Chart and as if the song’s position the week prior matters at all. Let’s pretend the chart is a simple 1:1 calculation of streams + sales. Week 1: Song A gets 5 streams and 5 sales, equaling 10 chart points Week 1: Song B gets 5 streams and 5 sales, equaling 10 chart points Week 2: Song A gets 3 streams and 3 sales, equaling 6 chart points Week 2: Song B gets 5 streams and 5 sales, equaling 10 chart points Week 3: Song A gets 5 streams and 5 sales, equaling 10 chart points Week 3: Song B gets 6 streams and 6 sales, equaling 12 chart points During Week 3, Song A increased more in streams and sales than Song B did, but Song B still charts higher Week 3 because it got more streams and sales during the tracking week. Doesn’t matter which song increased more, just which one has more points at the end of the single tracking week. I understand and know ALL of that. What I am saying is based on my focus on the current climate of the chart and songs that were released today. There aren’t any new song releases from major artists this week. There are a couple songs in the Top 15 that can creep into the Top 10 after this tracking week, which can result in Break My Soul falling a couple spots. That can be avoided if people don’t wait until album release week to buy the Instrumental & A Capella. My focus is not allowing the song to drop at all. Edited July 22, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
BYoncé Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 I bought the acapella last night from iTunes, but I'm saving my purchases from her website of the acapella and instrumental for a different card during album release week.
Armani? Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Even if it remains in the Top 10, the point is to not let song fall this week at all. I don't really care if it falls, as long as it's top 10 There's no notable difference between a #7 to #10 If it was top 5 already, then maybe you'd have a point
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