AlexStexaul Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 15 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 15 Trump is obviously worse than Biden, but that doesn't mean Biden is anywhere near good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alongoria13 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 He can't be worse than the guy who called white supremacists "fine men" not too long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vroom Vroom Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Biden has done a good job in supporting Ukraine without inciting war with Russia. When ever Biden asks for more money to support Ukraine, Congress gives it to him. Trump was ready to threaten to bomb Mosco and plunge us into WWIII Biden is not a transformative president, I don’t think any one thought he would be. His greatest strength is that he respects the constitution and does not abuse the power of the executive branch. The US needed this type of leadership after having a president that constantly challenged the constitution for his own personal benefit Now I am not saying Biden is a good president, but he is far from the worst. At worse historians will compare him to Jimmy Carter (who’s reputation seems to be improving each year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourtwink Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 since trump. how can y’all genuinely think that he is the worst or even just the worst in recent history when bush and trump exist? republican clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 15 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said: He can't be worse than the guy who called white supremacists "fine men" not too long ago? Biden's approval rating is lower than Trump's was post-Charlottesville, which was when he said that. People don't care about the threat of white supremacy and domestic terrorism. Unless you're black (which is only less than a quarter of the population), it is of zero concern. Inflation is more directly impacting people's lives right now, and Joe Biden (as the face of the current government) is taking the blame for all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 since Trump I don't like Biden either, but he's not worse than Trump or Bush or Reagan, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrorblade Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Fox Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 To the ones saying that Biden is worst because economy that’s what every country is going on and it’s not anybody fault more than COVID and that so called Third World War… like almost it’s not their faults and it’s just a bad time for the world right now that make more difficult to advance on a lot of things… also the world is very divided and want fast responses and things but some of them can’t be a thing in a day or a week and not even a year… anyway he’s one of the worsts tbh but because he’s just inoffensive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getBusy Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Trump was way worse but many people in here seem to have a horrible short-term memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane326 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 10 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: Now I am not saying Biden is a good president, but he is far from the worst. At worse historians will compare him to Jimmy Carter I can actually see the Carter comparisons. Of course Biden doesn't have an Iran style situation on his hands but the "unpopular now, seen as better later" might happen 11 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said: Biden is not a transformative president, I don’t think any one thought he would be. His greatest strength is that he respects the constitution and does not abuse the power of the executive branch. The US needed this type of leadership after having a president that constantly challenged the constitution for his own personal benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 49 minutes ago, hurricane326 said: Hence the electability argument. You're being a troll now. If Buttigieg and Kamala were awful and did worse than Sanders, and you think Sanders was unelectable, that means by equation that both Kamala and Buttigieg are unelectable and even more so unelectable than you could ever argue Sanders as being. Again, Buttigieg claimed he was polling at 0% with black voters because religion made black people homophobic. He's a non-starter and that's before we even talk about his far-right views like religious exemptions for vaccines lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane326 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 20 minutes ago, Communion said: You're being a troll now Well if I'm being a troll I don't see why you should keep responding to me lmao. It's getting exhausting for me, so I'm stepping back from the politics section for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brishka Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 This thread shows why I hate the far-left so much. You deserve the red wave. Little communists are carrying water for MAGA terrorists by disparaging the Democrats. Biden is not perfect, but he's infinitely better than the fascist we had before him. I would also argue that he's better than Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 This thread is really a perfect example of how Americans think they are the center of the universe and above everyone else. Most of y’all are not even taking into consideration that the US presidency affects the ENTIRE world. Yes, Biden is useless, but imagine thinking he’s worse than Bush and Obama, who literally killed MILLIONS of people in the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardbrit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Biden and Kamala are the worst in recent memory tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 They are all too old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKSIM Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 3 minutes ago, Aren said: This thread is really a perfect example of how Americans think they are the center of the universe and above everyone else. Most of y’all are not even taking into consideration that the US presidency affects the ENTIRE world. Yes, Biden is useless, but imagine thinking he’s worse than Bush and Obama, who literally killed MILLIONS of people in the Middle East. Right Biden could do nothing and bed easily the best President the US has had in 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alongoria13 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 46 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Biden's approval rating is lower than Trump's was post-Charlottesville, which was when he said that. People don't care about the threat of white supremacy and domestic terrorism. Unless you're black (which is only less than a quarter of the population), it is of zero concern. Inflation is more directly impacting people's lives right now, and Joe Biden (as the face of the current government) is taking the blame for all of it. White supremacy affects everyone not white/christian which is why I am shocked at the fact that the baguettes in here are celebrating Biden's downfall the alternative is a new generation Republican who is openly enabling murder and terrorism in the nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said: White supremacy affects everyone not white/christian which is why I am shocked at the fact that the baguettes in here are celebrating Biden's downfall the alternative is a new generation Republican who is openly enabling murder and terrorism in the nation People care more about their financial security above all else. Stop implying that we're celebrating that Biden is cementing his reputation as a shitty, incompetent president. Because we really aren't. We're lamenting the fact that we're on the verge of losing our rights because Biden is so terrible and unpopular that he's bringing down the political viability of the only party we have that even remotely views us as people. At worst, there's a sense of self-satisfaction because we were right about Biden all along. We were right that he would be a feckless, spineless piece of **** that would drag down the Democratic Party and make them unelectable for years, possibly decades to come due to his chronic inability to meet the moment and his historic predilection towards the wrong stance on every issue throughout his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimichanga Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) Democrats set themselves up by having an old and unpopular president, but an even more unpopular vice president they can't get rid of because she's a black woman the best to the party in the long run would be getting Kamala out of the way by a humiliating loss in 2024 and then starting with a clean slate in 2028. Edited June 15 by Chimichanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 minute ago, Chimichanga said: Democrats set themselves up by having an old and unpopular president, but an even more unpopular vice president they can't get rid of because she's a black woman the best to the party in the long run would be Kamala being humiliated in 2024 and then starting with a clean slate in 2028. What's more likely is this: 2024: Biden loses to Trump 2028: Kamala loses to DeSantis 2032: Pete Buttigieg loses to DeSantis After that, it's pretty much anyone's game. Hard to see the Democrats find anyone that's electable. Everyone they're inclined to elevate to political stardom is electoral poison. Even AOC, who is basically the best shot they'd have, would be fought against all along the way. She still doesn't check the right boxes for being electable in a national election, and the smears she would have to endure from her own party during the primary would exacerbate her inherent problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 24 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What's more likely is this: 2024: Biden loses to Trump 2028: Kamala loses to DeSantis 2032: Pete Buttigieg loses to DeSantis After that, it's pretty much anyone's game. Hard to see the Democrats find anyone that's electable. Everyone they're inclined to elevate to political stardom is electoral poison. Even AOC, who is basically the best shot they'd have, would be fought against all along the way. She still doesn't check the right boxes for being electable in a national election, and the smears she would have to endure from her own party during the primary would exacerbate her inherent problems. My literal hope is that Fetterman wins in November, because if there’s anybody I think could lead this useless party in the future, it’s him. If people are expecting AOC to become electable by 2028/2032…. her peak right now seems to be another Elizabeth Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Hillary: The Emancipation of Hillrod era is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spree Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 38 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What's more likely is this: 2024: Biden loses to Trump 2028: Kamala loses to DeSantis 2032: Pete Buttigieg loses to DeSantis After that, it's pretty much anyone's game. Hard to see the Democrats find anyone that's electable. Everyone they're inclined to elevate to political stardom is electoral poison. Even AOC, who is basically the best shot they'd have, would be fought against all along the way. She still doesn't check the right boxes for being electable in a national election, and the smears she would have to endure from her own party during the primary would exacerbate her inherent problems. this is exactly how I see it too. And I said this is another thread and it got no reaction, so I'll say it again.. when Republicans take over and IF gas prices go down and IF inflation goes down, you'll never see a Democratic government ever again. Big IF, just sayin. If it does happen, then it's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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