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Since Trump who was arguably one of the worst ever. He’s certainly not the best but he’s an absolute improvement over his predecessor 

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He’s been very disappointing but imagine thinking he’s worse than Trump who enabled white supremacists and incited an insurrection :rip: 

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It's amazing like the only possible Biden defense is that the country is in deep **** but nothing is his fault

 

He actually campained on sabotaging fossil fuels, effectively sabotaged fossil fuels, then fossil fuels get superexpensive and it's not his fault

 

He campaigned on being able to defeat covid, covid doesn't go away and it's not his fault.

 

He campained on printing money, effectively printed money, inflation goes through the roof and it's not his fault

 

Everything going on is a literal result of everything he defends and does and people act like poor grandpa just received a bad hand :biblio:

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2 hours ago, spree said:

ok, and the economy?

Unemployment is as low as during Trump. Yeah inflation is horrible but this is a WW issue not a US only issue.

There are a lot of things to criticize Biden for but the US economy is still doing ok all things considered

 

Unemployment rates for selected OECD countries and country aggregates, Percentage, seasonally adjusted

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Since Trump of course, but yeah he sucks.

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He's garbage

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War criminal neocon Bush is still worse than Trump tho

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2 hours ago, Jack. said:

People love to hate trump and ignore all the good things he’s done, for absolutely no reason. 

:rip:

 

anyway

 

2 hours ago, Nip Tuck said:

I’m not American so can someone explain why people seem to hate Biden so much :rip: like what did he do?

 

I see a lot of people online say the economy but how is that his fault?

reasoning is as follows

Conservatives: He's not Trump and he's a socialist (lmfao)

Liberals: He won't use the bully pulpit and aggressive tactics to extend some tax credits and performative bills (but they must fit our requirements)

Leftists: he could make executive orders to curb banking/wall st, facilitate student debt cancellation, curb monopolies, slow climate change, and ease marijuana legalization today and chooses not to do so

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2 hours ago, Jack. said:

People love to hate trump and ignore all the good things he’s done, for absolutely no reason. 
 

let’s not forget that whilst in power, unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in 70 years, 7 million people were lifted from food stamps, and he passed $3.2 trillion in tax relief and reformed the tax code. You know, things that actually improved peoples day-to-day living. 
 

What’s Biden done other than send the country into crippling debt? 

:clap3: TEA

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3 hours ago, Nip Tuck said:

I’m not American so can someone explain why people seem to hate Biden so much :rip: like what did he do?

 

I see a lot of people online say the economy but how is that his fault?

Inflation. People are gonna deny this here but the economy is the biggest factor.

 

He better not run again otherwise it is a wrap for the Dems.

 

 

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You have to be braindead to think he's worse than Trump, but yes, he is terrible. And we knew he would be in the primaries :cm:

 

Blaming him for the global inflation crisis is extremely irrational tho. Literally every country is dealing with it

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For as much as I've raged about the attitudes of many progressives towards Democrats on this site, I really am disappointed by Biden. He's infinitely better than any Republican would be, obviously, but I legitimately can't name anything major he's done, good or bad just to be clear.

 

I'd absolutely be down for Kamala/Buttigieg as a ticket. They actually have energy and oh boy did Pete have some firepower in him in the 2020 debates. Keep in mind though that Biden won't run. He says he will as a way to avoid being a placeholder (more than he already is lol).

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The sanctions on oil and gas across the board have been a failure and burdened working class people across the globe instead of having their intended effect of squeezing Russia, which one can't directly cite Biden for on the global scale, but the failure to garner a deal for OPEC nations to boost and ramp up oil production is easily his fault.

 

An American journalist murdered by the Saudi regime yet we're slapped away and mocked when trying to arrange discussions to even begin discussing a deal where OPEC nations will even consider increasing production schedules. 

 

America has lost itself to corruption. Corporations and foreign oligarchs rule the land and then Bidencrats can't even throw us concessions like often presidents in the past have had to. Minimum wage increase? No, Student debt forgiven? No. In fact, he has silently pushed price increases to Medicare. :mazen:

 

The only successful part of his presidency was showing how throwing money at something does solve it with the stimulus and funding of programs in response to COVID, and yet Dems both 1) have let nearly all that funding expire and 2) will let Republicans blame such for inflation despite such a takeaway being economically illiterate. 

 

5 minutes ago, hurricane326 said:

I'd absolutely be down for Kamala/Buttigieg as a ticket.

Ah yes, what we need - two people vastly unpopular with liberal voters of color, progressives and people under the age of 40. :clap3:That's worked out so well for Joe! Those groups are SO happy with his performance now! 

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7 hours ago, anklebiterrs said:

I don’t think they’re pretending to not be conservatives anymore

So funny how if you’re not a complete simp for Democrats and their utter fecklessness, that makes you a conservative :ahh: 

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He’s not the worst president ever, and neither is Trump. Bush was worse than both of them combined, and killed a lot more people with his invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

That said, Biden has been pretty useless overall. It’s funny how he was compared to FDR at the beginning due to all of the progressive priorities he supposedly wanted to put forward, but in practice, his refusal to fight for anything has made him more of a Herbert Hoover-style president than anything. Kinda fitting that we’re looking to go into one of the worst financial disasters since the Great Depression under his watch.

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7 hours ago, rac7d said:

If he doesn’t cancel thease student loans….. 

The way even $50k across the board relief polls at 60%+ nationally, polls even higher for groups most likely to vote for Dems, and disproportionately benefits the Democratic base (offering the largest shrinkage to the racial-wealth gap in decades), while everyone from education to labor unions endorse the ideas, but we won't get it because the corruption of the companies who process the loans and Biden's ideology that debt forgiveness promotes "irresponsibility". :deadbanana4:

 

Corporations got billions in PPP loans forgiven but Joe wants to teach first-generation college grads a lesson? :toofunny3:

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7 hours ago, Bears01 said:

Trumps approval rating never got higher than….47%:rip: That’s not “thought the roof”, that’s awful. Biden (as big of a flop as he is) at least had 6-7 months last year where he was in the 53-55% range 

47 is kind of… the ceiling when Democrats openly despise you and there’s nothing you can do to fix that. Even Republicans were more willing to give Biden a chance than liberals were willing to give Trump, who openly wanted to sabotage his presidency from the beginning and smeared him as a Russian agent on Putin’s payroll when there was zero evidence to support that.

 

For someone to be smeared 24/7 by the liberal mainstream media as a traitor to his country and still get 47% approval after his first impeachment over extorting Ukraine for dirt on Joe Biden failed, that’s actually pretty good all things considered.

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6 minutes ago, Communion said:

liberal voters of color

This is...mostly false. Most recent polling data from YouGov as reported in the LATimes suggests she enjoys more support from Black and Hispanic voters (particularly Black voters by a HUGE margin) than White ones. The immigration stances didn't help at all, I'll admit, but she also has much broader support among women Democrat voters. And she's in fact quite unpopular among the elderly of both parties.

 

10 minutes ago, Communion said:

progressives

Ideally we would in fact have someone with progressive leanings in very high office, but the electability of them would be so low as to guarantee a loss. That's my issue. Progressives can win House seats at most in the current toxic environment

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Users here think I hate progressives when in reality I AM a progressive in terms of my individual stances; I just can't have someone like DeSantis be president. That is much, much more likely to happen if current Democrat voters stay home and/or vote third party. It's the harsh reality

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6 minutes ago, hurricane326 said:

This is...mostly false.

Approval ratings are not polls; Bernie Sanders for example has amazing approval ratings with non-white Americans, but we saw in 2022 that he could only nudge himself up to 2nd place amongst (older) black votes despite being wildly popular with them. That you knowingly have to run to Kamala's approvals because you don't want to recognize that she was polling near 0% amongst black voters, just as Pete was, in the 2020 primary kind of says it all. 

 

If Pete was polling so bad with black voters in 2020 that his press secretary had to suggest it was due to black homophobia, what reasoning is there to suggest the same formula will work in 2024?

 

6 minutes ago, hurricane326 said:

someone with progressive leanings.... but the electability of them would be so low as to guarantee a loss.

Sanders - and even Warren - molly-wopped Kamala in the primaries and Sanders' progressivism quite literally outdid both Buttigieg, Klobuchar and others' centrism combined. In fact, Sanders often ran ahead of Buttigieg and Klobucher *combined* with voters of color by 30+ points in polls. 

 

"Let's have someone with Joe's backward views that are failing.. but queer or black!" is not a strategy worth entertaining. Both Harris and Buttigieg framed themselves as progressives in their launches and then their campaigns torpedoed the moment they shifted to centrism.

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Trump was the worst in history, any one with a functioning brain knows this.

But at least he gave his base what they wanted.

This old ***** better cancel my student loans or I’m staying home Election Day :chick1:

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3 minutes ago, Communion said:

despite being wildly popular with them

Hence the electability argument. Bernie, if he was the nominee, would have lost against Trump. No one can deny that

 

At the risk of sounding prejudiced, young voters of color are not exactly a great deal of the total amount of voters. They are very active in their stances and activism which is great, but the majority of voters are still older white people.

 

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

Both Harris and Buttigieg framed themselves as progressives

Kamala will distance herself from Joe if she runs. She's not oblivious to the horrible approval ratings.

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9 hours ago, Bethenny Frankel said:

He's the worst President since Trump, who literally incited a coup to try and kill the VP and Speaker

I mean :deadbanana2:

 

The fact that Americans already forgot about it :deadbanana2:

 

When they become the new Gilead in 2024 they will be crying 

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3 minutes ago, hurricane326 said:

Hence the electability argument. Bernie, if he was the nominee, would have lost against Trump. No one can deny that

 

At the risk of sounding prejudiced, young voters of color are not exactly a great deal of the total amount of voters. They are very active in their stances and activism which is great, but the majority of voters are still older white people.

 

Kamala will distance herself from Joe if she runs. She's not oblivious to the horrible approval ratings.

HER APPROVAL RATINGS ARE ******* WORSE THAN HIS. My GOD. She is WAY more hated than Biden, and for good reason. :deadbanana2:

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17 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

Trump was the worst in history, any one with a functioning brain knows this.

 

:cm:
 

Biden is disappointing yes, but what goddamn President in the last 20+ years hasn’t been tbh? It’s the freak out because Gas prices are so high for me that they are trying to make it seem like Trump wasn’t so bad….:deadbanana2:

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