Severus Snape Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, bleuwaffle said: i mean a drag queen reading to children is weird and unnecessary, but storming the event and consequently scaring the kids is not the way to go mhhh, I'm against children going to drag shows and gay locals where sexual charged events take place, even if the children-friendly event is being supervised. But I doubt that a drag queen reading the Ugly Duckling on a library is going to be endangering from these kids mental health.
Communion Posted June 12, 2022 Author Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, khalyan said: That’s my thought on this. A drag queen performing for children is essentially a clown, and clowns have always been used for children’s entertainment. I don’t see a difference here. Pop fans having adverse and reactionary takes to drag queens is so odd since drag queens are much similar to pop girl - just local and gay - than how often Christians try to compare drag queens to stripping or burlesque. I mean.. 99% of the complaints lodged about drag queens being around children are literally no different than the complaints launched by conservative Christians against female pop singers??
ToMmY Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, bleuwaffle said: i mean a drag queen reading to children is weird and unnecessary Yeah, they should be mutilating their genitals and immersing them in holy water instead.
Bloodflowers. Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 They should keep that energy also for religious sects too, but I guess men in dresses but without a wig and makeup is okay? With that being said, I also don't understand the point of drag queens reading books to children? Is this some next important cultural step worth fighting for LGBT rights or something, cause I don't see any appeal in this? You can be gay and read books to teach tolerance and fighting homophobia without looking like a clown makeup and big fake breasts and ass, keep that for an adult 18+ entertainment like it is originally intented for, not testing the water with kids out of all it really is weird, the second and third world countries ain't never gonna reach any LGBT advancement once right-wing lobbist propaganda get their hands on the material white gays in the West produce
Communion Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 @khalyan I think these tweets also sum up the contradictions I feel like we're seeing not from the Christian right, for who this is the norm, but from the kind of "anti-SJW" reactionaries who've morphed over the years into ~traditionalists~ to explain their hatred of feminism, social justice, etc. I can't help notice the contradiction many straight men might have where they didn't think being exposed to the left as children in middle school was grooming them towards heterosexuality but the right apparently grooms children to homosexuality (which is... apparently.... bad? lol).
bleuwaffle Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Communion said: Sis, aren't you the same user who used to praise Hitler for "attacking communism" years ago and then had to go on record as trying to "unlearn" your pro-neonazi views? If I found myself praising Hitler from a Polish suburb, I simply would question everything I thought was good and bad. wtf are you talking about? 37 minutes ago, Severus Snape said: mhhh, I'm against children going to drag shows and gay locals where sexual charged events take place, even if the children-friendly event is being supervised. But I doubt that a drag queen reading the Ugly Duckling on a library is going to be endangering from these kids mental health. i get that these events are pretty benevolent and supervised blah blah, but it just seems unnecessary to have nightlife entertainers around children. the drag queen = clown argument that gets thrown around is flawed since clowns are not sexualizing themselves in clubs to make money.
bleuwaffle Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said: With that being said, I also don't understand the point of drag queens reading books to children? Is this some next important cultural step worth fighting for LGBT rights or something, cause I don't see any appeal in this? You can be gay and read books to teach tolerance and fighting homophobia without looking like a clown makeup and big fake breasts and ass, keep that for an adult 18+ entertainment like it is originally intented for, not testing the water with kids out of all it really is weird, the second and third world countries ain't never gonna reach any LGBT advancement once right-wing lobbist propaganda get their hands on the material white gays in the West produce exactly. this idea that a man in hip pads and a breast plate should be the one to tell them that is odd. i'm not saying that to knock down drag queens, but why not show them that gays look like everyone else?
That Bad Eartha Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: wtf are you talking about? i get that these events are pretty benevolent and supervised blah blah, but it just seems unnecessary to have nightlife entertainers around children. the drag queen = clown argument that gets thrown around is flawed since clowns are not sexualizing themselves in clubs to make money. But should sexualizing yourself in one aspect of your life automatically mean you can’t ever interact with children? Like if a marvel actor films a sex scene in another movie, does that mean they shouldn’t be allowed to go in costume as their superhero to visit sick kids in a hospital?
bleuwaffle Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, That Bad Eartha said: But should sexualizing yourself in one aspect of your life automatically mean you can’t ever interact with children? Like if a marvel actor films a sex scene in another movie, does that mean they shouldn’t be allowed to go in costume as their superhero to visit sick kids in a hospital? i'm not saying that, but to go dressed the same way you do at the clubs is a choice. i guess that's for each parent to decide tho at the end of the day
That Bad Eartha Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, bleuwaffle said: i'm not saying that, but to go dressed the same way you do at the clubs is a choice. i guess that's for each parent to decide tho at the end of the day They are typically wearing like a colorful dress, idk in what world that is inappropriate.
Communion Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: wtf are you talking about? I'm just talking about your post history, sis. We've interacted on this site for years, most often with it being you espousing alt-right and far-right talking points in the name of "humor". I'm simply asking when you're going to reflect on that your worldview is harmful? At what point does joking about harm being done to gay people crosses a line? Here is you peddling a conspiracy theory about a trans man attacking Dave Chappelle that was quickly proven fake, for instance. Here's also you saying Bill Maher made points when saying being transgender was parents forcing kids to be trans. And that's all in the past 2 months lol. Why should people buy that your concern is "showing kids gay people are normal like everyone else" when you're here praising a school district for firing a teacher for being openly gay? Why should people entertain that your far-right views and humor are done in good faith when you're constantly defending rhetoric and espousing rhetoric no different than people who wish to kill us as LGBT people?
Mr. Mendes Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: i'm not saying that, but to go dressed the same way you do at the clubs is a choice. i guess that's for each parent to decide tho at the end of the day So if I wear an outfit to a club then I’m not allowed to wear it anywhere else?
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 13, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: the drag queen = clown argument that gets thrown around is flawed since clowns are not sexualizing themselves in clubs to make money. Not every queen is sexualizing themselves in clubs though. There are plenty doing drag for the fashion aspects, for comedy, for theater, and even some of the traditional club performers stay away from any sexual act and just embody typical pop girl or other styles.
Not Like The Movies Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 some of yall are so disappointing this forum sounds a lot like conservative media sometimes. YIKES
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 13, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: i'm not saying that, but to go dressed the same way you do at the clubs is a choice. i guess that's for each parent to decide tho at the end of the day Tell me what is sexual about the way these queens look If you think having breasts and hips inherently makes someone sexual, then how does a child exist around any woman without it being an issue?
bleuwaffle Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Communion said: I'm just talking about your post history, sis. We've interacted on this site for years, most often with it being you espousing alt-right and far-right talking points in the name of "humor". I'm simply asking when you're going to reflect on that your worldview is harmful? At what point does joking about harm being done to gay people crosses a line? Here is you peddling a conspiracy theory about a trans man attacking Dave Chappelle that was quickly proven fake, for instance. Here's also you saying Bill Maher made points when saying being transgender was parents forcing kids to be trans. And that's all in the past 2 months lol. Why should people buy that your concern is "showing kids gay people are normal like everyone else" when you're here praising a school district for firing a teacher for being openly gay? Why should people entertain that your far-right views and humor are done in good faith when you're constantly defending rhetoric and espousing rhetoric no different than people who wish to kill us as LGBT people? uhhhh ok, very off topic but i'll bite. i do lean right but i have never defended hitler? which is what your original accusation was. your name is literally communion, i don't think your definition of "far-right" fits the reality of what those groups think but okay.
Communion Posted June 13, 2022 Author Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: your name is literally communion Yes, my name being a great Years & Years album doesn't mean that I'll magically forget our *years* of interactions that make me suspicious of and question your motives and claims. But even then, I don't need to reference anything from our years posting on this same forum. I can just look to.... a month ago. You're claiming your issue with drag queens is that they're "adult night-life entertainers" and that kids should instead "be shown that gay people are normal", but yet I can literally point to a post from you just weeks ago praising a school district in America for firing a pansexual woman for answering yes to her students that she likes women. Wanna know how children learn that LGBT people are "normal"? By having adult role models in their lives who are LGBT, like, y'know, teachers, who don't shy away from being asked if they're gay or asked what the rainbow flag means - the thing that got the teacher fired to begin with. So again, if your issue isn't actually that they're doing something provocative - because they're not - or that you think that children need more gay role models besides just drag queens - since you clearly are fine with LGBT people being fired if they are openly gay in roles where they are responsible for children like with teachers - what exactly is your complaint about drag queens being gay clowns reading stories to young kids? Edited June 13, 2022 by Communion
Headlock Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, bleuwaffle said: uhhhh ok, very off topic but i'll bite. i do lean right but i have never defended hitler? which is what your original accusation was. your name is literally communion, i don't think your definition of "far-right" fits the reality of what those groups think but okay. Communion is literally a word that means an act of sharing, or if you want to ATRL-ify it is is the name of a Years & Years album. How in the hell is that relevant to you being a part of the far-right
infrared Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 can they spend this energy on gun control didn't over 15 children just get murdered - where's the outrage
commander Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, bleuwaffle said: i mean a drag queen reading to children is weird and unnecessary, but storming the event and consequently scaring the kids is not the way to go I’m pretty sure any kid would be safer with a drag queen than with the average white straight male.
Arthoe Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 Nazis are storming libraries, violently threating people and are screaming slurs at the tops of the lungs while little children are present but somehow 33% of y'all think the "real" weird thing is that a drag queen is reading a book to children. Right-wing brain rot hits different.
bleuwaffle Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Headlock said: Communion is literally a word that means an act of sharing, or if you want to ATRL-ify it is is the name of a Years & Years album. How in the hell is that relevant to you being a part of the far-right uh, who the hell are you? lmao 22 minutes ago, Communion said: Yes, my name being a great Years & Years album doesn't mean that I'll magically forget our *years* of interactions that make me suspicious of and question your motives and claims. But even then, I don't need to reference anything from our years posting on this same forum. I can just look to.... a month ago. You're claiming your issue with drag queens is that they're "adult night-life entertainers" and that kids should instead "be shown that gay people are normal", but yet I can literally point to a post from you just weeks ago praising a school district in America for firing a pansexual woman for answering yes to her students that she likes women. Wanna know how children learn that LGBT people are "normal"? By having adult role models in their lives who are LGBT, like, y'know, teachers, who don't shy away from being asked if they're gay or asked what the rainbow flag means. So again, if your issue isn't actually that they're doing something provocative - because they're not - or that you think that children need more gay role models besides just drag queens - since you clearly are fine with LGBT people being fired - what exactly is your complaint about drag queens being gay clowns reading stories to young kids? if i remember correctly the teacher that got fired was telling their class about their non-binary identity right? i'll spare myself the warning point and just say that yeah, i'd rather parents teach gender theory at their own pace, if ever. i don't really care about drag queen reading hour enough to wanna keep defending my stance lmao. if y'all want a child's introduction to the lgbt community to be a mid-30's man in a plastic wig and ross muumuu, do you Edited June 13, 2022 by bleuwaffle
RunUpDoneUp Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 Anyone perpetuating the lie that drag queens are a danger to children while extremists are literally crashing events for children and hurling insults, threats and targeting lgbt members and allies is an agent of propaganda. I will not permit the excuse of ignorance, their behavior is at this point, willful action. This is only acceptable if you believe in the abuse of one solely based on their identity.
Into The Void Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 I mean why r we turning a thread about what some proud boys did into arguing over whether or not drag queens are sexualized. Weird behavoir.
Slap Posted June 13, 2022 Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, bleuwaffle said: i mean a drag queen reading to children is weird and unnecessary, but storming the event and consequently scaring the kids is not the way to go Oh honey, firstly let me say, the pain, the pain you must be in to be saying these things. I’m so sorry honey you must be so frightened and alone. But let me tell you this, the queer community has been doing pride for more than 50 years, together. We’ve struggled, together. But we’ve also succeeded for the last few years, together. OT: This is so alarming can somebody release another Call of Duty or GTA game to keep these incels busy? Disgusting. Edited June 13, 2022 by Slap
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