chester Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 I think the finale left a bit of a sour taste in people's mouths when I look at how my friends reacted at the time.
fridayteenage Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 at least it doesn't have the bad reputation of divergent, which tried to copy the finale 2-parter trend and ended up never being finished b/c part 1 flopped so bad. jlaw her power.
Tizley Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 I think people got attached to HP and Twilight because they could see themselves in that universe and wanted to be apart of it. No one day dreams about being apart of the hunger games.
lovecatt Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 I feel like outside of the original books & films they didn't really make an effort to expand it into a huge franchise which is fine
Sad Serenade Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 The actors are forgotten and the movie hasn't got the huge fandom like Harry Potter.
Severus Snape Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 The Hunger Games were never about the Games themselves but just an excuse to depict the relationship between the Capitol and the districts. Katniss is not the real protagonist of the books. The Hunger games were never meant to be for entertainment but to teach a lesson. Suzanne Collins has opened up about this many times. Imo TGH are better books (and movies) than HP bc of all the points they make thought the story of Katniss. It showcases how celebrities and icons really have no power in our society other than telling you how to wear your hair and stuff like that. It takes a whole military compound to play with Katniss and weaponise her, yet still she isn't able to kill Snow or end the war, she's only powerful when the camera is on her. She loses power when she enters the capitol on the third book and gets rid of the cameras. It also shows how brutal nowadays entertainment is, we know very well that thousands of people die everyday bc of the actions of the first world (the capitol) but we still stand there and feed out of what they give us for entertainment, even people in third world countries want to be a part of the first world and their entertainment machine. The hunger games go viral every time there is political conflict (BLM on 2020, Ukraine crisis, etc.) bc of how it replicated these situations very well. Ever since it became a blockbuster schools all around the world got rid of its mandatory reading and stopped discussing it in class. I though that was a mistake bc it really teaches young generations about how the real world works.
Severus Snape Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Roberto said: This. I mean, Katniss crying with her dead sister's cat>>>stalker Snape crying for a woman that never loved him. I think it's one of the most remembered sagas after the obvious one (HP and LOTR) so, I don't know. OMG one of the saddest moments on the history of literature If THG are not as big now than HP is bc JKR really wants to milk the saga, but THG were meant to be a one-off thing.
Melquiades Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Our capitalistic overlords don't want us to remember and find inspiration in the revolutionary message of the movies!
Mr. Duff Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Not forgotten at all. It's no Harry Potter in terms of popularity but it's really a well make book and film series.
Khal Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Is it? I still see it being mentioned by tasteless people, unfortunately. It's not forgotten enough.
UnusualBoy Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Were they even that good to begin with? I watched them all because my brother like it but it's such a bore.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 10, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted June 10, 2022 It’s not forgotten. There were several protests that used tactics and hand signs from the series for a few years after the last movie came out. But Hunger Games is the most prolific and iconic modern dystopian YA series and remains relevant when discussing anything adjacent to that genre (which has generally fallen out of favor with cheap cash grabs trying to milk that space). Comparing it to Twilight and Harry Potter is a bit weird because they’re completely different. Twilight is largely remembered for being terrible. The “still a better love story than Twilight” gag is not a good legacy. The films are remembered for how bad they were, even some of the cast (e.g., Robert Patterson) openly lambast the films. As for Harry Potter, that’s just a different monster in terms of how big it is. Falling short of Harry Potter’s success isn’t a failure. Further, Harry Potter has elements of fantasticism that make it fun to get into. Talking about what house someone would be in the HP universe is fun and can be a fun conversation for coffee house fodder with friends. No one wants to talk about which district they’d be oppressed under in Panem. Hunger Games isn’t fun to talk about. The series is actually incredibly dark and heavy to dive into, especially Mockingjay. Harry Potter has more fun elements for people to have light conversations about. That’s not a criticism, but that makes it easier for people to casually stay engaged with it than the Hunger Games. For what it was, the Hunger Games was a massive success that will go on to become a literary standard due to its heavy themes related to war, propaganda, fascism, celebrity, rebellions, trauma, and the power of media.
Goaty Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 7:21 PM, fridayteenage said: hp's fanbase is still pretty cultish. https://www.amazon.com/charts the 10 most read novels last week, as usual, include all 7 books (the highest non-hp being Taylor Swift's where the crawdads sing). not sure how much base the other two still have. Good god those books will never die, will they
Miles. Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 The final book and film both served GOT S8 before GOT flopped. A panned finale equals a forgotten franchise.
Buffy Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 Hunger Games has always been and will always be an inferior PG version of Battle Royale.
Obsession Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) The Hunger Games is fine, it's remembered and it had its moment. I think the ensuing dystopia trend in YA fiction kind of watered down its legacy, because even though that happened with Twilight, none of them really hit like Twilight did while Hunger Games knockoffs like Divergent got pretty far. I'll also say too, I think the other franchises benefited from coming out in eras where physical books were more important and finding ways to keep the franchise/fandom going beyond their series' conclusions, while The Hunger Games movies petered off by the end and feel more like the start of Jennifer Lawrence's mainstream relevance. 4 hours ago, Bloo said: It’s not forgotten. There were several protests that used tactics and hand signs from the series for a few years after the last movie came out. But Hunger Games is the most prolific and iconic modern dystopian YA series and remains relevant when discussing anything adjacent to that genre (which has generally fallen out of favor with cheap cash grabs trying to milk that space). Comparing it to Twilight and Harry Potter is a bit weird because they’re completely different. Twilight is largely remembered for being terrible. The “still a better love story than Twilight” gag is not a good legacy. The films are remembered for how bad they were, even some of the cast (e.g., Robert Patterson) openly lambast the films. As for Harry Potter, that’s just a different monster in terms of how big it is. Falling short of Harry Potter’s success isn’t a failure. Further, Harry Potter has elements of fantasticism that make it fun to get into. Talking about what house someone would be in the HP universe is fun and can be a fun conversation for coffee house fodder with friends. No one wants to talk about which district they’d be oppressed under in Panem. Hunger Games isn’t fun to talk about. The series is actually incredibly dark and heavy to dive into, especially Mockingjay. Harry Potter has more fun elements for people to have light conversations about. That’s not a criticism, but that makes it easier for people to casually stay engaged with it than the Hunger Games. For what it was, the Hunger Games was a massive success that will go on to become a literary standard due to its heavy themes related to war, propaganda, fascism, celebrity, rebellions, trauma, and the power of media. I wouldn't say the part about Twilight is wholly true. They are remembered for being bad absolutely, but there's been a lot of rehabilitation around how the series and Meyer were treated, although they're still recognized as being corny. And then you have the whole Twilight renaissance trend that took place. But then you have Midnight Sun and the Songbird Hunger Games prequel which both came out in 2020 and Midnight Sun outsold the other. So I think that Twilight has just maintained a larger fandom. Edited June 11, 2022 by Obsession
Aiya Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Miles. said: The final book and film both served GOT S8 before GOT flopped. A panned finale equals a forgotten franchise. Books are fine but I agree last 2 movies were such a let down. It even couldn’t gross 1 billon at BO. it’s pity considering how good first 2 movies were. Edited June 11, 2022 by Aiya
Mr.Link Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 Because that whole story could have fit into one good book. Starting from the second one you can tell the author didn’t know what to do with the story and made it an inconsistent boring mess with terrible character development and slow ass pace. What’s worse they made the already terrible third book into TWO separate movies now it’s only remembered by special snowflakes who like to remind the world they prefer to be given “books over flowers”.
Lazuli Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 The promotion cycle for Mockingjay Part 2 was strangely muted so I guess the craze around the franchise died down even before it ended. But it's far from forgotten, it just doesn't have the kind of insane rabid fanbase the other 2 have and maybe that's a good thing.
Kamil24 Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 It's not really forgotten. There were only 3 books, and 4 movies. Nothing new in a while but it still gets referenced. Just look at all the Hunger Games comparisons when Squid Game came out.
Ger Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) On 6/8/2022 at 10:21 PM, fridayteenage said: Taylor Swift's where the crawdads sing Did Taylor recommend it? Edit: Nvm, she's releasing a song for the movie, wow. Book must be good. Edited June 11, 2022 by Ger-55
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