base talk Why is Katy struggling to sell $30 (65% OFF) Vegas tickets?

[Luckitty]

it was bad for her... it was really bad for her

 

and yes! i was sharing the shady posts towards her

[bestfiction]

6 minutes ago, Jjang said:

Keep denying that the liddos would have jumped and attacked anyone personally who did to Gaga what yall are doing to Katy here  ala "why are OGHS checking Gaga's touring receipts? must be mental illness!" comments. Yall are just hypocritical in the most transparently obnoxious way. 

[besaid]

By the way, I always see claims of tickets getting discounted before shows. But I never see evidence of the deep discounted tickets for flopping shows. Do we actually have evidence of these discounts?

[State of Grace.]

49 minutes ago, Nicholai said:

She has a giant RAT now tho.

 

 

Honoring some of her fans 

Ticket sales and all that **** aside, WHAT the **** is this Katheryn

[Bimbo]

48 minutes ago, Nicholai said:

She has a giant RAT now tho.

 

 

Honoring some of her fans 

The fact that they’ll never get the money invested in that animatronic puppet  

[hausofdave]

a OGH trying to clock liddos about attacking other fanbases, when all they do the same to us 10x worse, oh hypocrisy in the most transparent nauseous way

 

OT: wbk no one’s checking on her, one show is enough for a legacy act who’s really not known nor has a great reputation as a performer

[Katamari]

1 hour ago, gustavothehuman said:

being a Katy fan in 2022 is kind of cringe, a lot of people still likes her music (myself included) but imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see a giant turd on stage and having to say it was amazing 

Is her outfit supposed to be made of toilet paper  

[Ascareus Kratos]

6 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

And if you dont want to see more, get out of bed and go buy some tickets 

Lol

[Dr.Cake]

21 minutes ago, Jjang said:

You don't know that for sure. Esp. with the multiple dates I've mentioned... some still being 70-80% empty. Maybe if they reduce capacity or ticket prices, yes. But either way Taylor/Bey/Madonna stans would still have the right to mock your fave for not doing as well as theirs the same way you're mocking Katy (who has so far sold 62,000 tickets in Vegas at an average price of $200) for not doing as well as Gaga  

 

Keep denying that the liddos would have jumped and attacked anyone personally who did to Gaga what yall are doing to Katy here  ala "why are OGHS checking Gaga's touring receipts? must be mental illness!" comments. Yall are just hypocritical in the most transparently obnoxious way. 

Madonna hasn’t toured US stadiums since S&S Tour, 14 years ago….

 

The way tickets sell nowadays has changed A LOT, especially with official sellers such as Ticketmaster introducing dynamic ticket pricing.

 

When put on sale, ticket prices usually shoot sky high because of the demand and most people don’t rush anymore to buy them right off the start. That has especially worsened with the uncertainty of the pandemic.

 

As far as I know, with her latest stadium tour, Bey had the same “issues”. I remember there being countless threads about her “struggling” with shows being months away and yet ending up selling out almost everything at full capacity.

 

Ofc the demand for Taylor and Bey would be bigger than the one for Gaga (especially since they used to announce their tours right by the time of a major event such as the Superbowl or album release, completely different from Gaga adding shows 2 years after Chromatica’s release  ), yet the difference between these two and Gaga is not as staggering as you pretend.

 

You’re comparing their ability to sell out STADIUMS faster. Meanwhile Gaga is playing for 40-50K people / night, while Katy is struggling to sell out 4K theatres. There’s no comparison here  

 

[doonerr]

Oh no

[OmegaRidley]

6 hours ago, Dr.Cake said:

Yet it somehow only applies to liddos 

 

I didn’t even have to check anything, especially not Katy’s Vegas tickets (especially since I’m from Europe and Ticketmaster US servers don’t permit access outside the country). 
I just scrolled down twitter this morning and the screenshots were there :
 

You still created the thread tho ? 

 

Maybe it's time to get friends or look out for a job 

[gustavothehuman]

7 minutes ago, Katamari said:

Is her outfit supposed to be made of toilet paper  

Yes 

The show is too uncool for Gen Z (which desperately want to look edgy and unique) and too immature for the AC audience. There's a reason NRO and HIH were the only remotely successful songs she released this decade.

[Jessie]

Imagine having a rolodex of your own erotic fantasies of Gaga hate threads to pull out at a moments notice; some spiritual guidance is needed if a flamebait thread with a couple of pages needs you interacting with a fanbase you claim to loathe. Publicly itching for a thread they can really let rip in — the open salivation at hypothetical stat comparisons — and yet they are apparently so opposed to virulent displays of obnoxiousness  

 

Anyway, a $30 ticket for Katy’s level of production is a steal tbh, the locals should be jumping on that.

[Daniel767]

The show looks horrendous, I would go because her music is great, she has amazing songs, but not for a remake of like sesame street 

[Dr.Cake]

24 minutes ago, OmegaRidley said:

You still created the thread tho ? 

 

Maybe it's time to get friends or look out for a job 

I’m perfectly fine, thanks for worrying 

 

 

[G.U.Y_Del_Rey]

All the personal attacks in here , ATRLers always resort to that when they have no arguments left.

 

OT: She just does not have enough star power and the show looks awful (the rat and the sh*t )

[Roberto]

1 hour ago, Nicholai said:

She has a giant RAT now tho.

 

 

Honoring some of her fans 

No way. 

[UnusualBoy]

The obsession, we get it, her vegas shows are flopping

[AllyGayTor]

The meltdown from that user yikes. The projecting is not cute. Grass, touch_it.mp3
 

OT: Not bad for a throwback! 

[Jjang]

1 hour ago, Dr.Cake said:

Madonna hasn’t toured US stadiums since S&S Tour, 14 years ago….

 

The way tickets sell nowadays has changed A LOT, especially with official sellers such as Ticketmaster introducing dynamic ticket pricing.

 

When put on sale, ticket prices usually shoot sky high because of the demand and most people don’t rush anymore to buy them right off the start. That has especially worsened with the uncertainty of the pandemic.

 

As far as I know, with her latest stadium tour, Bey had the same “issues”. I remember there being countless threads about her “struggling” with shows being months away and yet ending up selling out almost everything at full capacity.

 

Ofc the demand for Taylor and Bey would be bigger than the one for Gaga (especially since they used to announce their tours right by the time of a major event such as the Superbowl or album release, completely different from Gaga adding shows 2 years after Chromatica’s release  ), yet the difference between these two and Gaga is not as staggering as you pretend.

 

You’re comparing their ability to sell out STADIUMS faster. Meanwhile Gaga is playing for 40-50K people / night, while Katy is struggling to sell out 4K theatres. There’s no comparison here  

 

She played two Yankee Stadium dates in 2012 ($16m gross in 2022 dollars) and the same year she broke the all time biggest attendance in North American history in Quebec (71k in one show). She grossed $11m from 26k tickets in London in 2020 - probably as much Gaga is going to gross from her two London Stadium dates (100k). Either way, that's not the point I was making. 

 

The point I was making was that had it been a "OGH" making a thread about the 5-6 semi flopping Chromatica dates yall would have attacked him/her personally on the basis that they're checking Gaga's stats, not on the basis that they're wrong/right. I/ others experience it first hand on the daily here so idk why you're pretending like the point is not so ******* obvious - that yall are just hypocrites. I'm not telling you not to attack Katy, I'm telling you don't be surprised when people do the same to your fave. 

 

And - oh please.  This is Gaga's first time touring stadiums in a decade (= more accumulated hype) in most of the markets she's touring 2022. Bey played 120 stadium dates from 2014-2018. The more dates you announce, the harder it is to sell out. Hence why the new dates she's adding - Miami, Houston, Hershey, Arlington, Cumberland etc. are all selling at a significantly lower pace. 

 

And no, these are not singular theater shows from different cities failing to sell out, these are accumulated shows in the same venue so that comparison is already incorrect by default. So far, Katy has sold 62,000 tickets with an average price of $200 in one venue in Vegas. Those are the facts right now.  And yall want to turn that into a mega flop because you know Gaga did better there. 

Edited June 4, 2022 by Jjang

[Dr.Cake]

6 minutes ago, Jjang said:

She played two Yankee Stadium dates in 2012 ($16m gross in 2022 dollars) and the same year she broke the all time biggest attendance in North American history in Quebec (71k in one show). She grossed $11m from 26k tickets in London in 2020 - probably as much Gaga is going to gross from her two London Stadium dates (100k). Either way, that's not the point I was making. 

 

The point I was making was that had it been a "OGH" making a thread about the 5-6 semi flopping Chromatica dates yall would have attacked him/her personally on the basis that they're checking Gaga's stats, not on the basis that they're wrong/right. I/ others experience it first hand on the daily here so idk why you're pretending like the point is not so ******* obvious - that yall are just hypocrites. I'm not telling you not to attack Katy, I'm telling you don't be surprised when people do the same to your fave. 

 

And - oh please.  This is Gaga's first time touring stadiums in a decade (= more accumulated hype) in most of the markets she's touring 2022. Bey played 120 stadium dates from 2014-2018. The more dates you announce, the harder it is to sell out. Hence why the new dates she's adding - Miami, Houston, Hershey, Arlington, Cumberland etc. are all selling at a significantly lower pace. 

 

And no, these are not singular theater shows from different cities failing to sell out, these are accumulated shows in the same venue so that comparison is already incorrect by default. So far, Katy has sold 62,000 tickets with an average price of $200 in one venue in Vegas. Those are the facts right now.  And yall want to turn that into a mega flop because you know Gaga did better there. 

Why would anyone act surprised if one stan base is attacking another? I haven’t.

 

It’s a pop forum where stuff like this is discussed daily. It’s not that dense, which is another reason why I don’t get why some users in here resort to personal attacks

 

Gaga isn’t touring US stadiums for the first time in a decade. She played for 750K people in the US just 4 years ago, during the JWT. 
 

The reason why Houston is selling lower compared to the others is because she’s never been a force in the southern states and she’s already sold 30K+ tickets for Dallas. Hershey is doing perfectly fine and so is Miami. She seems to be adding dates all over the place, with cities rather close to each other and avoiding obvious markets in which she would do much better. There is clear a planning issue with the tour, with dates being announced the way they were.

 

 

 

 

 

[Jjang]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Cake said:

Why would anyone act surprised if one stan base is attacking another? I haven’t.

 

It’s a pop forum where stuff like this is discussed daily. It’s not that dense, which is another reason why I don’t get why some users in here resort to personal attacks

 

Gaga isn’t touring US stadiums for the first time in a decade. She played for 750K people in the US just 4 years ago, during the JWT. 
 

The reason why Houston is selling lower compared to the others is because she’s never been a force in the southern states and she’s already sold 30K+ tickets for Dallas. Hershey is doing perfectly fine and so is Miami. She seems to be adding dates all over the place, with cities rather close to each other and avoiding obvious markets in which she would do much better. There is clear a planning issue with the tour, with dates being announced the way they were.

 

 

 

 

 

The excuses  Madge sold out that Houston stadium in 2008 and she's far a greater turn off to them than Gaga is/was. Taylor / Bey even sold bigger stadiums in Houston. 

 

I literally specified most of the markets she's touring in 2022 are markets she hasn't visited in a decade. I realize she did a post - SB couple of US stadium dates in 2017. In that same timeline Bey had already done 120 stadium dates. 120 > a couple if you need some logic slap. 

 

Also Taylor's "she's selling slow" rumors were just that - untrue rumors. I remember she immediately sold out most of her announced dates and prompted 2nd and third ones. At the end of the day you're coming for Katy's 25th + shows in the same venue. It's not the "she's failing to sell out singular theaters" narrative you're trying to paint. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[State of Grace.]

Lectures about "being obsessed!!!!!" would make more sense if the user wasn't camping in GaGaDaily with their account to troll GaGa and Liddos, and still doing it here

 

[Jjang]

Just now, State of Grace. said:

Lectures about "being obsessed!!!!!" would make more sense if the user wasn't camping in GaGaDaily with their account to troll GaGa and Liddos, and still doing it here

 

Literally proving my point  

[State of Grace.]

Just now, Jjang said:

Literally proving my point