professor2000 Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, Rev8 said: Maybe that is why he is at 83% sold out? I admit Billie comparison was too far, but she is selling like hotcakes While there was a literal big halt minus when Doja dropped out, and ppl Still haven't gotten their tickets back from what I am hearing I am gonna refrain from commenting any further since there seem to be a lot of feels touched on this topic even when I'm on his side
C-Amber Posted May 29, 2022 Author Posted May 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Rev8 said: Would u put him with other established artists, that are called Touring Artists? Ed?Taylor?Beyonce?Harry?P!nk? which would've prolly already have 95%+ sold out rate by now? ****, is he doing it like Billie? I mean..im not even hating on him and I didn't even say he doesn't have touring power I said Touring Artist. Not you putting Harry and Billie.... Billie just doing arenas. Harry did +40 shows on his current tour to bring ~700K people, the number that Abel did with just 17 shows. Harry has the potential since he added more shows for Arena/Stadium. Type of people like you said Taylor Stadium tour will flop, Bruno isn't touring force and bla bla bla. Guess we know what happened ? ~800K tickets sold from few shows, and more dates in Asia, Europe, Middle East, South America and Africa are about to come. +$200M grossing tour coming and you cry about him not being touring force
Gabe² Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 I can’t bring you one right now, but you can come later and get some donut holes
More Than A Melody Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 9 hours ago, C-Amber said: Not you putting Harry and Billie.... Billie just doing arenas. Harry did +40 shows on his current tour to bring ~700K people, the number that Abel did with just 17 shows. Harry has the potential since he added more shows for Arena/Stadium. Type of people like you said Taylor Stadium tour will flop, Bruno isn't touring force and bla bla bla. Guess we know what happened ? ~800K tickets sold from few shows, and more dates in Asia, Europe, Middle East, South America and Africa are about to come. +$200M grossing tour coming and you cry about him not being touring force Harry is doing stadiums in Europe, Latin America, and Oceania, and considering he sold 750K tickets in less than a day, he could easily do stadiums in the US as well, but he's choosing to do residencies in iconic venues instead to go with the "Harry's house" theme. I wouldn't call that "potential" since his entire tour is sold out. Clearly right now he's a bigger touring artist than Abel, which doesn't mean Abel isn't one! I do agree that there's no point comparing Abel to Billie, who's doing arenas and who's boxscores aren't even impressive, they're just good (and I like Billie).
Into The Void Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Rev8 said: Meh, he will deffo reach +90% by the time it started (if ppl dont turn their tickets in ) I guess he isn't a touring artist..but I think pop girls are mostly preferred to be seen? How is he not a touring artist when he's successfully selling stadiums
C-Amber Posted May 30, 2022 Author Posted May 30, 2022 12 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: Harry is doing stadiums in Europe, Latin America, and Oceania, and considering he sold 750K tickets in less than a day, he could easily do stadiums in the US as well, but he's choosing to do residencies in iconic venues instead to go with the "Harry's house" theme. I wouldn't call that "potential" since his entire tour is sold out. Clearly right now he's a bigger touring artist than Abel, which doesn't mean Abel isn't one! I do agree that there's no point comparing Abel to Billie, who's doing arenas and who's boxscores aren't even impressive, they're just good (and I like Billie). Harry upcoming dates are not full Stadiums, it's mostly arenas, stadiums ~20K capacity, only 11 stadiums with +40K capacity he had, the rest are 31 venues with 20K or less. That's why I said he has potential, to do full stadium tour, maybe he's next tour he will. Either way it's impressive and he's doing great and growing every time. Able with just few shows in North America already close to 900K and could hit 1M when the shows kick in, and he still didn't announce the rest in 5 more continents.
More Than A Melody Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, C-Amber said: Harry upcoming dates are not full Stadiums, it's mostly arenas, stadiums ~20K capacity, only 11 stadiums with +40K capacity he had, the rest are 31 venues with 20K or less. That's why I said he has potential, to do full stadium tour, maybe he's next tour he will. Either way it's impressive and he's doing great and growing every time. Able with just few shows in North America already close to 900K and could hit 1M when the shows kick in, and he still didn't announce the rest in 5 more continents. The implication was "potential to be a force in touring". He's choosing to do arenas. He's doing 15 dates in The Forum and 15 dates in MSG. That's not "potential" that's that he can. 15 MSG dates is 300,000 tickets give or take. That's about 5 stadiums. In the same city. Between both North American dates he ALREADY sold 1.5M tickets for this tour alone (MSG TWENTY times), within less than a year... Clearly he's a bigger touring artist than Abel, which doesn't mean that Abel isn't big in touring. But you were replying to someone telling you that Harry was bigger as if he wasn't, which is simply not true. I do agree with you that Billie isn't on Abel's level yet.
sadnews Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 as I expected.. people need to learn the new changes in tour market.. lol it's not about fast selling anymore.
C-Amber Posted May 31, 2022 Author Posted May 31, 2022 8 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: The implication was "potential to be a force in touring". He's choosing to do arenas. He's doing 15 dates in The Forum and 15 dates in MSG. That's not "potential" that's that he can. 15 MSG dates is 300,000 tickets give or take. That's about 5 stadiums. In the same city. Between both North American dates he ALREADY sold 1.5M tickets for this tour alone (MSG TWENTY times), within less than a year... Clearly he's a bigger touring artist than Abel, which doesn't mean that Abel isn't big in touring. But you were replying to someone telling you that Harry was bigger as if he wasn't, which is simply not true. I do agree with you that Billie isn't on Abel's level yet. I honestly don't see it as a great thing to do 40 concert in iconic 4 arenas in USA, same arenas he already performed as sold, he could do the same numbers with 17-18 concerts in stadiums. Yeah he chose that but I don't think it simply because he wanted to do iconic arenas, if that the case he'll do in UK and performe +10 concerts in O² cuz its as well and iconic place. But he only chose to do arenas in USA, while the rest are stadiums. Which says more he isn't ready or afraid to do full stadiums in USA, many artists can do concerts at MSG, but majority of them can't do stadiums. We'll see in future he will probably add stadiums on do future full stadiums tour
More Than A Melody Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, C-Amber said: I honestly don't see it as a great thing to do 40 concert in iconic 4 arenas in USA, same arenas he already performed as sold, he could do the same numbers with 17-18 concerts in stadiums. Yeah he chose that but I don't think it simply because he wanted to do iconic arenas, if that the case he'll do in UK and performe +10 concerts in O² cuz its as well and iconic place. But he only chose to do arenas in USA, while the rest are stadiums. Which says more he isn't ready or afraid to do full stadiums in USA, many artists can do concerts at MSG, but majority of them can't do stadiums. We'll see in future he will probably add stadiums on do future full stadiums tour I'm sorry but you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Harry is all about the iconic venues. He doesn't like big stadium shows. He just does them because he doesn't really have a choice. He can't do multiple arenas in London since he doesn't have the time to do that. Look at his schedule. Hell, he had the demand to add 2 dates to both Manchester and London in stadiums, since he sold out both twice in two hours, but he doesn't have the gap in his tour: When he first went solo, he toured iconic theaters, despite the fact that he could've toured arenas from the word go. He also performed for $10 per ticket at the Troubadour in LA and The Garage in London (and donated all the money to charity). The theater tour announcement (this tour went from September to December 2017) was on April 28. He did The Ryman, Radio City Music Hall, Greek Theater, etc. These tickets sold out in minutes and he tweeted this: Then proceeded to announce an arena arena tour 6 weeks after the theater tour announcement, on June 8 (this tour went from March to July 2018). Just last week he had a show in London to launch his album at Brixton Academy, which can hold 5,000 people. All tickets went out for £50 a piece. Quote Harry Styles fans were left devastated as tickets for his one off show in Brixton sold out in four minutes - and now ticket scalpers are selling them on for up to £1500. The award-winning singer recently announced a 'One Night Only' show at O2 Academy Brixton ahead of his highly anticipated third album 'Harry's House'. However, many fans were left disappointed at missing out on the coveted tickets as they sold out in record time on Ticketmaster following the O2 Priority Presale at 10am on May 10 yesterday, with the main batch released today (May 11). Resell marketplace Viagogo is now showing tickets from £400 all the way up to £1500 when checked by MyLondon on May 11. Source And this is why he chose it: Quote Brixton Academy (...) has become one of London's leading music venues, hosting over 50 live albums, and winning the NME Best Venue 12 times since 1994. It has been home to several notable performances, including The Smiths' last gig (December 1986), Leftfield's June 1996 concert which set a decibel record for a live gig at 137db, and Madonna's gig in 2000, which was watched by an online audience of 9 million. Not every artist lusts over stadiums. Some prefer more intimate shows. If he could get away with it, he'd still do theaters. I defended Abel, and I will continue to do so. I think the grudge ATRL has with him (and all male artists) is ridiculous. He clearly has the demand for a stadium tour. His team is not dumb. And I don't think Doja leaving will affect his numbers. He'll likely sell out and have great box scores and grossing. I have no doubt that he has actual concrete and real demand. You don't need to put other artists down to defend him. Harry is clearly at his peak now. Him being a little bigger than Abel currently (and considering he sold about 1.5 million tickets in North America, that's pretty freaking clear) doesn't mean Abel isn't a monster anyway. Come on... I went out of my way to defend him earlier...
kishi Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 The tour is still going to happen and tickets will sell.
Abracadabra Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 12 hours ago, C-Amber said: I honestly don't see it as a great thing to do 40 concert in iconic 4 arenas in USA, same arenas he already performed as sold, he could do the same numbers with 17-18 concerts in stadiums. Yeah he chose that but I don't think it simply because he wanted to do iconic arenas, if that the case he'll do in UK and performe +10 concerts in O² cuz its as well and iconic place. But he only chose to do arenas in USA, while the rest are stadiums. Which says more he isn't ready or afraid to do full stadiums in USA, many artists can do concerts at MSG, but majority of them can't do stadiums. We'll see in future he will probably add stadiums on do future full stadiums tour This makes no sense Regardless of where it is, he has still sold more tickets in arena shows than if he were performing in a stadium.
C-Amber Posted May 31, 2022 Author Posted May 31, 2022 20 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: I'm sorry but you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Harry is all about the iconic venues. He doesn't like big stadium shows. He just does them because he doesn't really have a choice. He can't do multiple arenas in London since he doesn't have the time to do that. Look at his schedule. Hell, he had the demand to add 2 dates to both Manchester and London in stadiums, since he sold out both twice in two hours, but he doesn't have the gap in his tour: When he first went solo, he toured iconic theaters, despite the fact that he could've toured arenas from the word go. He also performed for $10 per ticket at the Troubadour in LA and The Garage in London (and donated all the money to charity). The theater tour announcement (this tour went from September to December 2017) was on April 28. He did The Ryman, Radio City Music Hall, Greek Theater, etc. These tickets sold out in minutes and he tweeted this: Then proceeded to announce an arena arena tour 6 weeks after the theater tour announcement, on June 8 (this tour went from March to July 2018). Just last week he had a show in London to launch his album at Brixton Academy, which can hold 5,000 people. All tickets went out for £50 a piece. And this is why he chose it: Not every artist lusts over stadiums. Some prefer more intimate shows. If he could get away with it, he'd still do theaters. I defended Abel, and I will continue to do so. I think the grudge ATRL has with him (and all male artists) is ridiculous. He clearly has the demand for a stadium tour. His team is not dumb. And I don't think Doja leaving will affect his numbers. He'll likely sell out and have great box scores and grossing. I have no doubt that he has actual concrete and real demand. You don't need to put other artists down to defend him. Harry is clearly at his peak now. Him being a little bigger than Abel currently (and considering he sold about 1.5 million tickets in North America, that's pretty freaking clear) doesn't mean Abel isn't a monster anyway. Come on... I went out of my way to defend him earlier... You making all of this as if I was attacking him or hating on him come on.... Harry entire career been growing slowly without any rushing, he started with Theaters on his first tour because he was still considered as new artist, he never stood on stage alone, so for him to jump on Arenas immediately was just not good idea, he chose the right way to kick in. His current tour was naturally gonna be in arenas considering how he did great in theaters, he then now added stadiums here and there and I believe its for him and his team to see the reaction, and they will probably do stadiums in future tours. As for America there are zero stadiums dates which for me it weird considering how he sold arenas fast, and since there are so many iconic stadiums if that's what he's looking for, but he didn't, that's why I think they did this because he either ain't ready for stadiums in USA or they don't think it's good idea to do it now, thus they did Series of shows on Arenas he already did and knows will sell. Nobody saw how his current album and song going with this crazy longevity at start and later on in numbers, literally no one, pretty sure they will do stadiums in USA if they know this will happen. Because honestly the excuse u giving of him wanting to do iconic arenas doesn't fit, especially how he ALREADY did those arenas on same tour multiple times, unless he's looking to break some sort of records on how many shows they can do there? Idk. But what I know there are more iconic stadiums there if he looking to do iconic places only. Not any of this that I say takes away anything from him, he's currently one of the biggest solo male act, is music and in touring, and I didn't say any of this to hate on him, I actually like the man and I think he deserves what he's enjoying right now. And I do hope he'll do full Stadium tour, it will be iconic for sure.
More Than A Melody Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, C-Amber said: You making all of this as if I was attacking him or hating on him come on.... Harry entire career been growing slowly without any rushing, he started with Theaters on his first tour because he was still considered as new artist, he never stood on stage alone, so for him to jump on Arenas immediately was just not good idea, he chose the right way to kick in. His current tour was naturally gonna be in arenas considering how he did great in theaters, he then now added stadiums here and there and I believe its for him and his team to see the reaction, and they will probably do stadiums in future tours. As for America there are zero stadiums dates which for me it weird considering how he sold arenas fast, and since there are so many iconic stadiums if that's what he's looking for, but he didn't, that's why I think they did this because he either ain't ready for stadiums in USA or they don't think it's good idea to do it now, thus they did Series of shows on Arenas he already did and knows will sell. Nobody saw how his current album and song going with this crazy longevity at start and later on in numbers, literally no one, pretty sure they will do stadiums in USA if they know this will happen. Because honestly the excuse u giving of him wanting to do iconic arenas doesn't fit, especially how he ALREADY did those arenas on same tour multiple times, unless he's looking to break some sort of records on how many shows they can do there? Idk. But what I know there are more iconic stadiums there if he looking to do iconic places only. Not any of this that I say takes away anything from him, he's currently one of the biggest solo male act, is music and in touring, and I didn't say any of this to hate on him, I actually like the man and I think he deserves what he's enjoying right now. And I do hope he'll do full Stadium tour, it will be iconic for sure. Yeah, he got the demand from theaters to arenas in 6 weeks. You're right. It wasn't a choice at all. Just like Brixton academy last week wasn't a choice. He did it because he doesn't have the demand for a bigger place. Totally 100% right. The Weeknd is the biggest touring artist in the world and Harry Styles selling twice the amount of tickets than him as soon as they went on sale doesn't mean anything because the physical space wasn't a stadium. Is that enough? Pls stop quoting me.
C-Amber Posted May 31, 2022 Author Posted May 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: Yeah, he got the demand from theaters to arenas in 6 weeks. You're right. It wasn't a choice at all. Just like Brixton academy last week wasn't a choice. He did it because he doesn't have the demand for a bigger place. Totally 100% right. The Weeknd is the biggest touring artist in the world and Harry Styles selling twice the amount of tickets than him as soon as they went on sale doesn't mean anything because the physical space wasn't a stadium. Is that enough? Pls stop quoting me. Let's just agree to disagree, and sweetie you the one that quoted me first then felt all offended when all my talk was normal and respectful
More Than A Melody Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, C-Amber said: Let's just agree to disagree, and sweetie you the one that quoted me first then felt all offended when all my talk was normal and respectful You're free to be wrong
monstereo Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 o mg what an accomplisment I love the weekend so much!! truyl the Michael JAckson of 2022 I might consider buying a ticket
FAN Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, unclefloprry said: SUCCESS 100M just in 19 shows!?
Relampago. Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 The way he won even with the Doja cancellation ATRL wanted him to fail so bad but KING rose.
Katamari Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, unclefloprry said: SUCCESS What’s the source tho
Michael196 Posted July 1, 2022 Posted July 1, 2022 losers ran to celebrate in the fake cancellation announcement thread when Doja pulled out king Abel always wins
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