Ferret Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Ive read multiple times that the non binary pronouns and nouns has affected the LGBT community and its reputation and consider it one of the reasons of the current regression for our rights. Even some gays don’t believe in the non binary identity. In SA, after the “ compañere” episode, people started making of the non binary people, What do yo think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ferret said: Ive read multiple times that the non binary pronouns and nouns has affected the LGBT community and its reputation and consider it one of the reasons of the current regression for our rights. Even some gays don’t believe in the non binary identity. In SA, after the “ compañere” episode, people started making of the non binary people, What do yo think? blame homophobes for that maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 NO what is even this argument. Non binary and gender queer people have existed for centuries. If anything it’s progressing LGBTQ rights bc more visibility and acceptance on being different is OK. Especially bc this is a topic we can introduce to children, without the sexuality being inappropriate arguments. I think what led to the backlash over LGBTQ is Republican culture, the right wing is EXTREMELY against normalizing LGBTQ identities and especially in media to children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakshowvato Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I really think it’s unethical to not validate non binary identities. To anyone here who identifies as non binary: you are valid and beautiful. You are part of the LGBTQ community. And happy pride month (it’s coming in a few days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No, it's not non-binary people's fault that bigots and homophobes have chosen to use them to attack the wider LGBTQ+ community. What kinda question...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No. If anyone thinks so they should be ashamed of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyofbadgals Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) How about we just blame it on people who actively go against the movement rather than.. people who are apart of it this shouldn’t even be a question/thread Edited May 28, 2022 by Navyofbadgals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No, wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thickorita Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 If you have to cater and tailor the LGBT+ community into concepts the straights understand then they don't accept you anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) To hate non-binary people, you're subscribing to a bioessentialism that also says that your sexuality as a queer person is unnatural. There is literally no difference in evidence for the statements of "if you have a *****, you're a man" and "your body produces semen as a man to impregnate women; your body is not made to have same sex attraction and your lack of attraction to women is wrong and unnatural". There is no way to try and throw nb people under the bus or then binary trans people under the bus without harming LGB people because the root of why peopoe hate us is the same and none of our faults. Edited May 28, 2022 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Of You Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I’ll always remember that article that said the entire non-binary, pronoun movement was just a white privilege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackoutZone Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No, the **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-esper Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No it didn't hurt the community. It is just used as a reason to hate atm because it got more representation the last few years. Non-binary people, two sprited people and other ways of identifying have been a thing for decades. It's the same lame argument when 'the straights tm' say that gay stuff is shoved down their troat, it's not, it just got more representation in movies, tv and (pop) culture and since we live in a time where people can react unfiltered on social media and have easier ways to gain a platform/pedestal, it is also easier for negativity and hate to grab that platform and use it against us. Also people don't like what they don't know. So people will see non-binary as something ridiculous. But at one point in time it was also ridiculous to think women should have basic rights. And it also hasn't been that long ago that gays globally were seen as 'sick' or 'ill' and we overall still have a longway to go for LGBTQ+ rights, but also human rights in general if we look at racism and other hateful topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG Grande Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 hold on... there are people that actually use these "they/them" pronouns outside of social media & expect people to call them by those pronouns? I believe if anything, this "self discovery" or whatever is supposed to be a personal thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Jacobs Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No. They have a right to be themselves. However those who thought it was cool and trendy to come out as them for a little while made it annoying and a joke to the gp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicassie Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) ATRL isn’t the place for this kind of discussion read the room baby let’s not blame this wave of hatred on our fellow LGBTQ+ Edited May 28, 2022 by Bicassie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolce Vita Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 um no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lover. Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 If you are an uneducated bigot maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seiko Oomori Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 no, but threads like this do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 @ATRL Administration this thread seems problematic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestfiction Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 No, wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveInStereo Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 The thread became an echo chamber in record time. Actual non-binary people are fine. But neopronouns & kinself **** is making a mockery of our community & IDC if it’s unpopular to say. Those ppl are just nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsay Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 **** the straight man's approval And I'm pretty sure legislation is more to be blamed on, idk, actual virulent homophobes/transphobes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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