ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted May 25, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Planet Mars said: The US has compromised the rights of certain people before for the supposed "greater good" of our country, kind of like interning Japanese Americans during WW2 or the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment on African American men beginning in the 1950's. What's stopping them now? Those people weren’t White men. So America is going to feel much different about it.
Letemtalk Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Martyr Of Fame said: Shooter was an 18 year old Latino and the right are running with racist border talking points even though he was an American citizen. GOP found their “deflection.” I've also seen them sharing photos on twitter claiming the shooter might be transgender
bunnyeyes Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: I've also seen them sharing photos claiming the shooter might be transgender It’s been debunked and it’s just a random innocent person. How people are using this terrible tragedy to be racist, xenophobic, and transphobic is beyond me…. those poor babies. I hope more are found safe. My heart is broken for them and their families . Edited May 25, 2022 by IvyTower
Communion Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: I've also seen them sharing photos claiming the shooter might be transgender To clarify, there is no evidence the shooter is trans, because they're not. They're literally using a random Hispanic person's photos from reddit:
EdgeofTeeth Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 This is unthinkably horrible, and it makes me want to spit that this is just another tragedy that will do nothing to instigate tighter gun restrictions. **** this place.
byzantium Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Kamil24 said: This debate on gun laws on Fox new right now Are Americans just unaware of how every other country lives? The guy acting like it would be such a horrible thing to prevent law-abiding citizens to buy guns Fox News is basically a propaganda machine akin to Russian state media. They make their money feeding ignorance and division.
TheLastChord Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 This tragedy is just another one to add to a horrible list of events. Nothing will change, ever. There's no way to remove +400 million guns from the streets, there'll never be a solid public healthcare system that can take mental health patients seriously. This country is centered around money and profit, and a majority of Americans have been taught to not give a **** about their communities and strangers.
Beyonnaise Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 I’m never usually this person but it’s so f**king stupid to hear people mentioning their “prayers” at a moment like this. Do they honestly think God will hear their prayers and suddenly decide allowing mass murder of little kids should stop?
Soup in Teapot Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Sending thoughts and prayers and then repeat this tragedy again and again? IMAGINE HOW TIRED WE ARE AMERICA!!!
Billionaire Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 All these rhetorical questions as if he ain't the damn President GET OFF TWITTER AND DO SOMETHING
Beyonnaise Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Like goddamn who cares if they overturn it in the courts, sign an executive order tonight, you’re the f**king president Just sitting on your hands at moments like these is why everyone hates Dems
Letemtalk Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, IvyTower said: It’s been debunked and it’s just a random innocent person. Which is what I suspected and is why I didn't link to the posts.
Kamil24 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, byzantium said: Fox News is basically a propaganda machine akin to Russian state media. They make their money feeding ignorance and division. Well it was a debate, so at least it had 2 sides. But the guy arguing for guns was like "what about all the good 18 year olds that want to buy a gun to go hunting?" I just don't get that mindset, who cares if people can't hunt
Bears01 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I’m never usually this person but it’s so f**king stupid to hear people mentioning their “prayers” at a moment like this. Do they honestly think God will hear their prayers and suddenly decide allowing mass murder of little kids should stop? This. It’s so embarrassing and shameful, and it’s almost always offered by the people who absolutely CAN do something to help, but absolutely will not 2 minutes ago, Billionaire said: All these rhetorical questions as if he ain't the damn President GET OFF TWITTER AND DO SOMETHING You know most major actions has to go through congress correct? He’s a flop president, but anything he does through executive action is incredibly likely to get immediately shot down in court (with the makeup of the Supreme Court, that’s guaranteed to happen too). It gets annoying having to constantly remind people that action has to happen through CONGRESS, the president isn’t a king
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted May 25, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Kamil24 said: Well it was a debate, so at least it had 2 sides. But the guy arguing for guns was like "what about all the good 18 year olds that want to buy a gun to go hunting?" I just don't get that mindset, who cares if people can't hunt There's no rational. I had a person from high school (I'm from a red state) who argued with me that he needs guns to feed his family as if he doesn't go grocery shopping at Kroger. There's no rationale with these people. They just want guns to feel cool and to seem tough.
byzantium Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billionaire said: All these rhetorical questions as if he ain't the damn President GET OFF TWITTER AND DO SOMETHING What do you want him to do though? He is only one of three branches of government and the other two are too busy masturbating with their guns.
ELT Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Billionaire said: All these rhetorical questions as if he ain't the damn President GET OFF TWITTER AND DO SOMETHING
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted May 25, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bears01 said: You know most major actions has to go through congress correct? He’s a flop president, but anything he does through executive action is incredibly likely to get immediately shot down in court (with the makeup of the Supreme Court, that’s guaranteed to happen too). You can use this thinking to not try legislation through Congress (even with a strong majority) because it could get ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden should use everything at his disposal. It could energize the base ahead of the midterms at worst. Biden can't even bring himself to vocally criticize the Republican Party by name or call out pro-gun Democrats. Democratic voters are rightfully frustrated and demoralized because it feels like their votes make no difference. When that feeling sinks in, then we're screwed and Biden is heavily contributing to that sense of helplessness.
byzantium Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kamil24 said: Well it was a debate, so at least it had 2 sides. But the guy arguing for guns was like "what about all the good 18 year olds that want to buy a gun to go hunting?" I just don't get that mindset, who cares if people can't hunt Its not rational. But what propaganda is rational?
Blade Runner Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 The US doesn't care about dead children. Only war and military profit. Pathetic country.
byzantium Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bloo said: You can use this thinking to not try legislation because it could get ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden should use everything at his disposal. It could energize the base ahead of the midterms at worst. Biden can't even bring himself to vocally criticize the Republican Party by name or call out pro-gun Democrats. The thing about the supreme court is if they make a ruling, it can become precedent, and then we might be in a worse situation.
Bears01 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bloo said: You can use this thinking to not try legislation because it could get ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden should use everything at his disposal. It could energize the base ahead of the midterms at worst. Biden can't even bring himself to vocally criticize the Republican Party by name or call out pro-gun Democrats. If something is passed and signed into law by Congress, it becomes significantly more challenging to overturn through the courts. That’s government 101, Congress has more authority for lawmaking than the president. Im not trying to defend him, I’m laying out the context when it comes to passing laws, especially with something that is protected in the constitution
byzantium Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Blade Runner said: The US doesn't care about dead children. Only war and military profit. Pathetic country. In Capitalist America, children are just collateral damage so that gun manufactures can keep making money.
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