Miss Show Business Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, ClashAndBurn said: Biden literally let American infants starve for 3 months. Slava Ukraini, though! It's giving "jOe BiDeN cOnTrOlS tHe gAs PrIcEs"
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted May 23, 2022 ATRL Moderator Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: Hide contents • 1.9T American Rescue Plan • $1400 stimulus checks for adults, children, and adult dependents • 1 year child tax credit expansion – $3600 0-5, $3000 6-17, removed income reqs and made fully refundable • One year EITC expansion • $350 billion state and local aid • $130 billion for schools for safe reopening • $40 billion for higher ed, half of which must go to student aid • Extended $300 supplemental UI through September 2021 • Expanded eligibility for extended UI to cover new categories • Made $10,200 in UI from 2020 tax free • $1B for Head Start • $24B Childcare stabilization fund • $15B in low-income childcare grants • One Year Child and Dependent Care credit expansion • $46.5B in housing assistance, inc: - $21.5B rental assistance - $10B homeowner relief - $5B for Sec 8 vouchers - $5B to fight homelessness - $5B for utilities assistance - Extended Eviction moratorium through Aug 2021 (SC struck down) • 2 year ACA tax credit expansion and ending of subsidy cliff – expanded coverage to millions and cut costs for millions more • 100% COBRA subsidy through Sept 30th, 2021 • 6 month special enrollment period from Feb-Aug 2021 • Required insurers to cover PrEP, an HIV prevention drug, including all clinical visits relating to it • Extended open enrollment from 45 to 76 days • New year round special enrollment period for low income enrollees • Restored Navigator program to assist with ACA sign up • Removed separate billing requirement for ACA abortion coverage • Eliminated regulation that allows states to privatize their exchanges • Eliminated all Medicaid work requirements Permanently removed restriction on access to abortion pills by mail • Signed the Accelerating Access to Critical Therapies for ALS Act to fund increased ALS research and expedite access to experimental treatments • Rescinded Mexico City Policy (global gag rule) which barred international non-profits from receiving US funding if they provided abortion counseling or referrals • Allowed states to extend coverage through Medicaid and CHIP to post-partum women for 1 year (up from 60 days) • 42 Lifetime Federal judges confirmed – most in 40 years • 13 Circuit Court judges • 29 District Court judges • Named first openly LBGTQ woman to sit on an appeals court, first Muslim American federal judge, and record number of black women and public defenders • $1.2T infrastructure law, including $550B in new funding $ • $110B for roads and bridges • $66B for passenger and freight rail • $39B for public transit, plus $30.5B in public transit funds from ARP • $65B for grid expansion to build out grid for clean energy transmission • $50B for climate resiliency • $21 for environmental remediation, incl. superfund cleanup and capping orphan wells • $7.5B for electric buses • $7.5B for electric charging stations • $55B for water and wastewater, including lead pipe removal • $65B for Affordable Broadband • $25B for airports, plus $8B from ARP • $17B for ports and waterways • $1B in reconnecting communities • Rejoined the Paris Climate Accords 50% emission reduction goal (2005 levels) by 2030 • EO instructing all federal agencies to implement climate change prevention measures • Ordered 100% carbon free electricity federal procurement by 2030 100% zero emission light vehicle procurement by 2027, all vehicles by 2035 Net Zero federal building portfolio by 2045, 50% reduction by 2032 • Net Zero federal procurement no later than 2050 • Net zero emissions from federal operations by 2050, 65% reduction by 2030 • Finalized rule slashing the use of hydrofluorocarbons by 85% by 2036 – will slow temp rise by 0.5°C on it’s own. • Set new fuel efficiency standards for cars and light trucks, raising the requirement for 2026 from 43mpg to 55mpg. • Protected Tongass National Forest, one of the world’s largest carbon sinks, from development, mining, and logging • Revoked Keystone XL permit • Used the CRA to reverse the Trump administration Methane rule, restoring stronger Obama era standards. • EPA proposed new methane rule stricter than Obama rule, would reduce 41 million tons of methane emissions by 2035 • Partnered with the EU to create the Global Methane Pledge, which over 100 countries have signed, to reduce methane emissions by 30% by 2030 from 2020 levels • US-EU trade deal to reward clean steel and aluminum and penalize dirty production • Ended US funding for new coal and fossil fuel projects overseas, and prioritized funding towards clean energy projects • G7 partnership for “Build Back Better World” – to fund $100s of billions in climate friendly infrastructure in developing countries • Restoring California’s ability to set stricter climate requirements • Signed EO on Climate Related Financial Risk that instructs rule making agencies to take climate change related risk into consideration when writing rules and regulations. • $100M for environmental justice initiatives • $1.1B for Everglades restoration • $100M for environmental justice initiatives • $1.1B for Everglades restoration • 30 GW Offshore Wind Plan, incl: • Largest ever offshore wind lease sale in NY and NJ • Offshore wind lease sale in California • Expedited reviews of Offshore Wind Projects • $3B in DOE loans for offshore wind projects • $230M in port infrastructure for Offshore wind • Solar plan to reduce cost of solar by more than 50% by 2030 including $128M in funding to lower costs and improve performance of solar technology Multi-agency partnership to expedite clean energy projects on federal land • Instructed Dept of Energy to strengthen appliance efficiency rules • Finalized rule to prevent cheating on efficiency standards • Finalized rule to expedite appliance efficiency standards • Repealed Federal Architecture EO that made sustainable federal buildings harder to build • Reversed size cuts and restored protections to Bears Ears, Grand Staircase-Escalante, and Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monuments • Restoring NEPA regulations to take into account climate change and environmental impacts in federal permitting • Extended public health emergency through at least April 15, 2022 • $50B in funding for FEMA for COVID Disaster Relief including vaccine funding • Set 100% FEMA reimbursement to states for COVID costs, retroactively to start of pandemic • $47.8B for testing • $1.75B for COVID genome sequencing • $8.5B to CDC for vaccines • $7.6B to state and local health depts • $7.6B to community health centers • $6B to Indian Health Services • $17B to the VA, including $1B to forgive veteran medical debt • $3B to address mental health and substance abuse • Over 500 million vaccine shots administered in a year • Established 90,000 free vaccination sites • Raised federal reimbursement from $23 to $40 per shot for vaccine sites • 6000 troops deployed for initial vaccination • Cash incentives, free rides, and free childcare for initial vaccination drive • 400 million vaccines donated internationally, 1.2 billion committed $2B contribution to COVAX for global vaccinations • Funded expansion of vaccine manufacturing in India and South Africa Implemented vaccine mandate for federal employees, contractors, and employees at healthcare providers that receive Medicare/Medicaid funding. • Implemented vaccine/test mandate for large businesses (SC struck down) • Invoked DPA for testing, vaccine, PPE manufacturing • Federal mask mandate for federal buildings, federal employees, and public transportation • Implemented test requirement for international travel • Implemented joint FDA-NIH expedited process to approve at home tests more quickly • Over 20,000 free federal testing sites 8 at home tests per month required to be reimbursed by insurance • 1B at home tests available for free by mail • 50M at home tests available free at community health centers • 25M high quality reusable masks for low-income residents in early 2021 • 400M free N95 masks at pharmacies and health centers • Military medical teams deployed to help overburdened hospitals • Rejoined the WHO • Ended the ban on trans soldiers in the military • Reversed Trump admin limits on Bostock ruling and fully enforced it • Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ patients in healthcare • Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ families in housing under the Fair Housing Act • Prohibited discrimination against LGBTQ people in the financial system to access loans or credit • Justice Department declared that Title IX prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity in education. • Revoked ban on Federal Diversity Training Instructed the VA to review its policies to remove barriers to care for trans veterans • First Senate confirmed LGBTQ Cabinet Secretary • First trans person confirmed by the Senate • Extended birthright citizenship to children of same sex couples born abroad • State Department allows X gender marker on passport for non-binary Americans • Banned new contracts with private prisons for criminal prisons • Justice Department reestablished the use of consent degrees with police departments • Pattern and Practice investigation into Phoenix, Louisville, and Minneapolis Banned chokeholds and limited no-knock raids among federal law enforcement Initiative to ban modern day redlining • Doubled DOJ Civil Rights Division staff • Increase percentage of federal contract for small disadvantaged businesses from 5% to 15% ($100B in additional contracts over 5 years) • Sued TX and GA over voting laws. Sued TX over abortion law. Sued GA over prison abuse. • Signed law making Juneteenth a federal holiday • Signed EO to use the federal government to improve voting access through federal programs and departments. • Signed COVID-19 Hate Crime Act, which made more resources available to support the reporting of hate crimes • Signed EO for diversity in the federal workplace • Increased federal employment opportunities for previously incarcerated persons • Banned ghost guns • New regulations on pistol-stabilizing braces • First annual gun trafficking report in 20 years • New zero tolerance policy for gun dealers who willfully violate the law • Signed COPS act, ensuring confidentiality for peer counseling for police officers • Signed Protecting America’s First Responders Act, expediting benefits for officers disabled in the line of duty • Signed bill making it a crime to harm US law enforcement overseas • Student loan freeze through April 30th, 2022 • Changed criteria so an additional 1.14M borrowers qualified for the loan pause (retroactively forgave interest and penalties) • Forgiven $11.5B in student loans for disabled students, students who were defrauded, and PSLF • Fixed PSLF so that it is much easier for previous payments to apply. • Determined that the paused months will apply to PSLF • Student loan debt forgiveness is tax free through 2025 • Ended Border Wall emergency and cancelled all new border wall construction and contracts • Repealed Trump’s Muslim Ban • Set FY 2022 refugee cap to 125,000, the highest in almost 30 years • Prohibiting ICE from conducting workplace raids • Family reunification taskforce to reunite separated families. Reunited over 100+ families and gave them status to stay in US • Granted or extended TPS for Haitians, Venezuelans, Syrians, and Liberians • Lifted moratorium on green cards and immigrant visas • Ended use of public charge rule to deny green cards • Loosened the criteria to qualify for asylum • Changed ICE enforcement priorities • Reinitiated the CAM Refugee program for Northern Triangle minors to apply for asylum from their home countries • $1B+ in public aid and private investment for addressing the root causes of migration • Ended family detention of immigrants and moved towards other monitoring • HHS prohibited working with ICE on enforcement for sponsors of unaccompanied minors • Got rid of harder citizenship test • Allowed certain visas to be obtained without an in person consulate interview • Rescinded “metering” policy that limited migrants at ports of entry • Ended the War in Afghanistan • First time in 20 years US not involved in a war • Ended support for Saudi offensive operations in Yemen • Airstrikes down 54% in 2021 from 2020. • Issued policy restricting drone strikes outside of warzones • Restored $235M in aid to Palestinians AUKUS defense pact with Australia and UK • New rules to counter extremism within the military • Signed law funding capitol police and Afghan Refugees • EO on competitiveness to write consumer friendly rules, such as right to repair • EO on improving government experience, incl • Social Security benefits will be able to be claimed online • Passports can be renewed online Makes it easier for low-income families to apply for benefits • Increase telehealth options • WIC recipients can use benefits online • $7.25B in additional PPP funds • Signed PPP extension law to extend the program for 2 months • Changed criteria to make it easier for small and minority businesses to qualify for PPP loans • $29 Restaurant Recovery Fund to recover lost revenue • $1.25B Shuttered Venue fund • $10.4B for agriculture • 30 year bailout of multiemployer pension funds that protects millions of pensions through 2051. • Pro-labor majority appointed to NLRB • Established task force to promote unionization • Restored collective bargaining right for federal employees • Negotiated deal for West Coast Ports to run 24/7 to ease supply chain • Signed EO to secure and strengthen supply chains • Investing $1B in small food processors to combat meat prices • Extended 15% SNAP benefit increase through Sept 30, 2021 • Made 12 million previously ineligible beneficiaries eligible for the increase • Public health emergency helps keep benefits in place • Largest permanent increase in SNAP benefit history, raising permanent benefits by 27% ($20B per year) • Made school lunches free through for all through the 2021-2022 school year • Extended the Pandemic EBT program • Largest ever summer food program in 2021 provided 34 million students with $375 for meals over the summer. • Restarted the FHA-HFA risk sharing program to finance affordable housing development • Raised Fannie/Freddie’s Low-Income Housing Tax Credit from $1B to $1.7B a year to invest in affordable housing • $383M CMF grant program for affordable housing production • Prioritizing owner-occupants and non-profits as purchasers of FHA-insured and Distressed HUD properties, rather than large investors • Paid a 10% retention incentive to permanent federal firefighters and a $1000 bonus to seasonal firefighters • Transitioned hundreds of federal firefighters from part time to full time and hired hundreds more • $28.6B in supplemental disaster relief approved for natural disasters • $8.7B in funding to increase lending to minority communities • Released $1.3B in Puerto Rico disaster aid previously held up by Trump admin and removed restrictions on $8.2B housing disaster aid • Forgave $371M in community disaster loans in PR • Released $912M in previously withheld education aid to PR • Permanently made all families in PR eligible for the CTC (previously only families with 3 or more children were) • Provided permanent funding to quadruple the size of PRs local earned income tax credit • Permanent $3B per year boost to funding for PR’s Medicaid program • Raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour for federal contractor, eliminated the minimum wage exception for certain contractor positions, and ended the tipped contractor wage. • Ordered the minimum wage for federal employees to be raised to $15 an hour • Medicaid drug rebate change to discourage excessive price increases and save Gov $23.5B • Incentives for states to expand Medicaid Finalized the rule that bans surprise medical bills for out of network medical services • Instituted a moratorium on the federal death penalty This list is of course what has become law. No it’s not? Several of the list items are just statements Biden has made. Such as him endorsing a $15 minimum wage. That obviously hasn’t become law since 8 Democrats voted it down and Biden said nothing in response. Copying and pasting long lists of arbitrary “accomplishments” isn’t compelling and won’t change the fact that the vast majority of Americans feel worse off than they were a year ago.
ClashAndBurn Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: It's giving "jOe BiDeN cOnTrOlS tHe gAs PrIcEs" $40 billion. To Ukraine. That was his ultimate priority to pass through Congress while American mothers watched their infants waste away due to not being able to obtain baby formula because Biden failed to act for THREE. MONTHS.
Miss Show Business Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bloo said: No it’s not? Several of the list items are just statements Biden has made. Such as him endorsing a $15 minimum wage. That obviously hasn’t become law since 8 Democrats voted it down and Biden said nothing in response. Copying and pasting long lists of arbitrary “accomplishments” isn’t compelling and won’t change the fact that the vast majority of Americans feel worse off than they were a year ago. Yes, it is. The $15 minimum wage increase was done at the Federal level - for federal employees. It doesn't include any policy that wasn't passed by congress or that wasn't executive action. I understand why people feel worse off than they do a year ago, but Biden cannot be blamed for it. Inflation for example is a global issue. Biden isn't responsible for that. Presidents with no congressional supermajority basically can only make changes at the Federal level, and sign whatever legislation manages to be passed by Congress. Dems in Congress have been bending over backwards trying to pass bills with the limited majority. For example, the recent failed attempt to codify Roe into law. They're still negotiating it, and trying to pass at least something to lessen the effect of the eventual SCOTUS decision. All of this would not be necessary if Dems hold the House and expand their Senate majority. That's the ultimate solution. When the Senate has a 60/40 supermajority (not including Manchin and Sinema), then I'll accept the criticism.
Cruel Summer Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: $40 billion. To Ukraine. That was his ultimate priority to pass through Congress while American mothers watched their infants waste away due to not being able to obtain baby formula because Biden failed to act for THREE. MONTHS. And don’t forget that in the mean time they sent Pete to the media to speak about how America is and should always be capitalist and it’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that it’s citizens are provided for or baby formula is produced and distributed, it’s four massive corporations and the proper response is to be vaguely mad at them or something 2 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: Yes, it is. The $15 minimum wage increase was done at the Federal level - for federal employees. It doesn't include any policy that wasn't passed by congress or that wasn't executive action. I understand why people feel worse off than they do a year ago, but Biden cannot be blamed for it. Inflation for example is a global issue. Biden isn't responsible for that. Presidents with no congressional supermajority basically can only make changes at the Federal level, and sign whatever legislation manages to be passed by Congress. Dems in Congress have been bending over backwards trying to pass bills with the limited majority. For example, the recent failed attempt to codify Roe into law. They're still negotiating it, and trying to pass at least something to lessen the effect of the eventual SCOTUS decision. All of this would not be necessary if Dems hold the House and expand their Senate majority. That's the ultimate solution. When the Senate has a 60/40 supermajority (not including Manchin and Sinema), then I'll accept the criticism. Federal workers make up less than two percent of the work force. While I applaud their raise, it made no difference for the extremely vast majority of workers. The Biden administration’s failure is its failure to make any meaningful positive difference in the average American life. Nothing has been done to reign in inflation, student debt appears to be back off the table again, the formula shortage has been handled poorly - it’s just a never ending story of things that they could have done something about but didn’t. Biden never should have run for President - he is an unfit leader who is willingly complicit in the economic situation we face today. That willing complicity is the point, actually. Things wouldn’t be different if there were two more Democrats in Congress, and we should admit that. This isn’t a party that actually wants to make life better for Americans in every way it can, it’s a party that wants to stay in a state of perpetual crisis because that fuels more donations. This is a party that had a supermajority in both chambers and didn’t bother to codify Roe v Wade, that bent over backwards to accommodate a neutered ACA instead of real meaningful healthcare reform. The Democrats are excellent at nothing if not performative concern and messaging in order to drive donations, and that is their party’s entire purpose as an institution.
Аshanti Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: The $15 minimum wage increase was done at the Federal level - for federal employees.
ClashAndBurn Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Things wouldn’t be different if there were two more Democrats in Congress, and we should admit that. They're actually saying here that we need 12+ more Democrats in the Senate because they don't believe in overturning the filibuster either. 3 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: And don’t forget that in the mean time they sent Pete to the media to speak about how America is and should always be capitalist and it’s not the government’s responsibility to ensure that it’s citizens are provided for or baby formula is produced and distributed, it’s four massive corporations and the proper response is to be vaguely mad at them or something Yeah, Pete's a craven servile little weasel in service of capital and always has been. He started his professional career as a bread-price fixer for McKinsey after all. This is the hero that neoliberals are placing their hopes in for the future beyond Biden. He's everything they want out of a politician. I like how the backlash to that was so strong they were like "yeah, we'll fly in baby formula imports now I guess" just days later
Communion Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Nano said: Only polls I'm aware of If you being a right-winger not even from America didn't clue in me you're arguing from a place of dishonest hate, you trying to pass off polling that largely tries to capture how cis people feel they *understand* trans people in a conversation about support for anti-trans legislation sure does. Of course most cis people won't understand how a trans man identifies as a man; polling from just a few years ago would likely show the same for how straight Americans feel about LGB people - confusion, not condemnation. Trying to mock trans people and troll that "most cis people don't ACTUALLY agree with them", despite your best hopes, doesn't manifest out of thin air an agenda to pass laws limiting the freedoms of trans people:
Vermillion Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Biden said he's running again in 2024 to Obama off-the-record according to The Hill and (unless he dies) I believe him - but I think he's going to lose against either Trump or DeSantis. That's all I've got to say here and will add more later in the politics thread.
Jennifer Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Good. Anyone with half a brain knows that liberals and democrats are idiotic in every way. The response to Covid revealed everything.
Pop Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Element said: This is just a shining example of the difference between the voter base between the two parties. Republican supporters don’t care if their president ran down 100 people in a street. They’d still show support in the polls and voting booth. Democratic supporters actually respond to their party leaders’ negative aspects/actions by saying they don’t approve. THAT’S HOW POLITICS SHOULD BE. Critical thinking and nuance. Not the cult of personality and stupidity that the right has built up for 30 years. Right wing has become a free-for-all. Center and left are holding their people accountable and then being made fun of by the right wing under the manufactured drama of “cancel culture”.
ClashAndBurn Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Espresso said: Biden said he's running again in 2024 to Obama off-the-record according to The Hill and (unless he dies) I believe him - but I think he's going to lose against either Trump or DeSantis. That's all I've got to say here and will add more later in the politics thread. I think he loses too, but... by far better than anybody else the Dems could or would run. Other than maybe Eric Adams who would also probably lose, but by a comparable amount to Biden. Ultimately, I think the Biden presidency has killed the Democratic Party's branding by... even more than it was already killed by Obama, who was perceived as an elitist, yes, but was also regarded by most people as competent. Biden's not elitist, in contrast, but he's definitely viewed as incompetent which for a lot of people is worse. Trump was also incompetent, but as a Republican the bar is lower and he's flocked by devotees. The floor for his approval was always higher than it's ever been for more conventional politicians like Biden, Obama, and Bush 43.
Mike91 Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 His whole appeal was that he could bring democrats and republicans together. Now that it hasn't happened (who could have guessed?) I wonder if dems ditch him in 2024? Not that it matters. They'll still nominate the same old sh*t in the form of Kamala or Pete and dems will lose badly.
MotoPapi Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 I regret voting for Biden/Kamala so much. I would rather vote for trump now
Dula Peep Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 Unfortunately Republicans are loyal and will fall in-line no matter what and Democrats will b*tch, moan, complain and be unsatisfied no matter what. That's why. Theres only one woman who could unite us all....
Miss Show Business Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said: Things wouldn’t be different if there were two more Democrats in Congress, and we should admit that. They wouldn't? Are you completely unaware of anything Dems in passed in the House? The House passed hundreds of bills, many of which the left wanted, including the Equality Act, Voting Rights, Women's Rights, etc. Speaking of baby formula, Dems in the House literally just introduced legislation to solve that issue, and passed legislation to end price gouging by oil companies. Guess who voted against the latter? You guessed it, the Republicans. And all of these bills die in the Senate because we simply do not have the 60/40 majority required to avoid a filibuster, which we all know is not above Republicans to use whenever they could. To blame Democrats for what is voters failures and the Republicans failures to deliver meaningful action to their constituents is nonsense. Democrats have consistently been approving of all of these issues liberals and leftists want addressed — yet they get blamed because Republicans killed them in the Senate. Again, the solution here is to expand the Senate majority. If Dems do this (and hold the House too) and then don't pass any of these things? Then I will accept the criticism. Otherwise, it's silly to put blame solely on the Democrats and POTUS for things literally beyond their control. Edited May 23, 2022 by Miss Show Business
ClashAndBurn Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Miss Show Business said: They wouldn't? Are you completely unaware of anything Dems in passed in the House? The House passed hundreds of bills, many of which the left wanted, including the Equality Act, Voting Rights, Women's Rights, etc. Speaking of baby formula, Dems in the House literally just introduced legislation to solve that issue, and passed legislation to end price gouging by oil companies. Guess who voted against the latter? You guessed it, the Republicans. And all of these bills die in the Senate because we simply do not have the 60/40 majority required to avoid a filibuster, which we all know is not above Republicans to use whenever they could. To blame Democrats for what is voters failures and the Republicans failures to deliver meaningful action to their constituents is nonsense. Democrats have consistently been approving of all of these issues liberals and leftists want addressed — yet they get blamed because Republicans killed them in the Senate. Again, the solution here is to expand the Senate majority. If Dems do this (and hold the House too) and then don't pass any of these things? Then I will accept the criticism. Otherwise, it's silly to put blame solely on the Democrats and POTUS for things literally beyond their control. Passing stuff in the House that doesn't pass in the Senate is worthless and not even deserving of being mentioned. Good ******* God. These aren't accomplishments. At all. Period.
Communion Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: They wouldn't? Are you completely unaware of anything Dems in passed in the House? 50 + 2 - 8 = 44 Math is hard and Democrats are bad people as long as centrism is not exiled from the party!
Miss Show Business Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Passing stuff in the House that doesn't pass in the Senate is worthless and not even deserving of being mentioned. Good ******* God. These aren't accomplishments. At all. Period. Why not? Would you rather they do nothing? It shows that Democrats want to actually pass these bills — and that they're dying in the Senate. The Senate is the real problem. Always has been.
Miss Show Business Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Communion said: 50 + 2 - 8 = 44 Math is hard and Democrats are bad people as long as centrism is not exiled from the party! And yet even with all of those votes, this still wouldn't have survived the filibuster, because of the... Republicans!
ClashAndBurn Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: Why not? Would you rather they do nothing? It shows that Democrats want to actually pass these bills — and that they're dying in the Senate. The Senate is the real problem. Always has been. Passing dead-end bills in the House is THE SAME as doing nothing. You're wasting energy on things that will never happen and will never even get brought to the floor. There is no path for Democrats to ever have 60 votes in the Senate. And when a good amount of your caucus (not just two Senators mind you) disagree wholeheartedly with your agenda to do things such as raise the minimum wage and lower drug prices and securing abortion rights, it's hard to be optimistic about a party that can't even find 50 votes for those things. The bipartisan position in the Senate (with Democratic support mind you) is opposition to all of those things! Democrats' hopes are resting on pro-life conservative Democrats like Joe Manchin and Henry Cuellar always being the deciding vote for everything meaningful.
Communion Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Miss Show Business said: And yet even with all of those votes, this still wouldn't have survived the filibuster, because Democrats do not want to abolish it Correct!
Miss Show Business Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Passing dead-end bills in the House is THE SAME as doing nothing. this ridiculous logic. Good day to you.
Breathe On Moi Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Element said: This is just a shining example of the difference between the voter base between the two parties. Republican supporters don’t care if their president ran down 100 people in a street. They’d still show support in the polls and voting booth. Democratic supporters actually respond to their party leaders’ negative aspects/actions by saying they don’t approve. THAT’S HOW POLITICS SHOULD BE. Critical thinking and nuance. Not the cult of personality and stupidity that the right has built up for 30 years. Right wing has become a free-for-all. Center and left are holding their people accountable and then being made fun of by the right wing under the manufactured drama of “cancel culture”. Babe, this is pretty hot
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