Reverse Warholian Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Mrnoniee said: watching her career dissolve right in front of my eyes is fascinating to say the least. Her hitmaking days might be behind her, but I'd say headlining sold out ampitheatres and festivals every night off the back of a widely praised Grammy nominated album is hardly a signifier of career dissolution
Protocol Posted May 23, 2022 Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Reverse Warholian said: The guy she is responding to is dumb. The relationship between artists and label is not one of boss/employee. It's more of a combination of client and contractor. Labels are working for the artist, who is simultaneously funded by them. Labels withholding release dates until you can prove the song will be successful before it's released (?!??) is a very new thing as a result of TikTok clips. It used to be that the song would come out to radio first, and if it did well enough they would send singles to stores, or release it on iTunes. Some tracks that did not perform well enough would get scrapped (like JLo's "Louboutins") but at least they'd be out there in some form. So Halsey has a right to complain. When she signed her deal this kind of thing was not happening at all.
Comedor Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 Well she got the viral moment she was looking for. Now release the damn music and let it flop. the dramatics
Jude Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 What an ungrateful b****. Hope she continues to flop for a very, very long time.
cOe Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 She's fully right but people are gonna hate just because she's Halsey. It's ridiculous that you need vitality BEFORE releasing something like tf
Kingfisher Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 guys my mom will get me an iphone 13 if this comment gets 3k likes
Harry Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 the music sucks so i get why the label refuses to waste money
Reverse Warholian Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, cOe said: It's ridiculous that you need virality BEFORE releasing something like tf This. That's what a lot of folks here are missing. It's the dangling a carrot in front of a horse and false promise of a reward is what's wrong. If other artists have come forward with similar stories then it must be a thing Edited May 24, 2022 by Reverse Warholian
cOe Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Reverse Warholian said: This. That's what a lot of folks here are missing. It's the dangling a carrot in front of a horse and false promise of a reward is what's wrong. If other artists have come forward with similar stories then it must be a thing !! Right? This already happened to Kim Petras before
Europe Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, cOe said: !! Right? This already happened to Kim Petras before Also to Charlie Puth
smartalek22 Posted May 24, 2022 Posted May 24, 2022 first the World Trade Center now Capitol?? somebody stop her
Pandora30012 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 Whats the issue with promoting on tiktok? With streaming traffic has shifted from radio to online platforms. Back in the days labels would put their artists on radio promo tours, now they put them on tiktok. Its really just promotion and not as bad as everyone is trying to make it out to be
Protocol Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pandora30012 said: Whats the issue with promoting on tiktok? With streaming traffic has shifted from radio to online platforms. Back in the days labels would put their artists on radio promo tours, now they put them on tiktok. Its really just promotion and not as bad as everyone is trying to make it out to be Yeah but they would do the promo once the song was out, not before This is the equivalent of an artist going on endless radio tours to get in their good graces before the song is even out, and won't release the song until radio likes them enough and promises to play the track, a promise which they can back out of and has no guarantees, just like TikTok usage doesn't guarantee streams.
Pandora30012 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Protocol said: Yeah but they would do the promo once the song was out, not before This is the equivalent of an artist going on endless radio tours to get in their good graces before the song is even out, and won't release the song until radio likes them enough and promises to play the track, a promise which they can back out of and has no guarantees, just like TikTok usage doesn't guarantee streams. If the song is already popular before its release it will be added to more spotify playlists, therefore more radio play, more streams, more exposure, therefore biger chances of the sing charting high. Its just a kickstart, i dont see the problem with it.
1989 Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 2:51 PM, Goofy said: shading the same label who made her believe she sold 165M records, lmao
Bhabylon Posted May 25, 2022 Posted May 25, 2022 The way this fake drama got her more attention than the whole movie she released in her last era
JonRih Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 So she got a semi-viral tiktok moment in where she complains about having to have a fake viral tik tok moment… hmmm
Digitalism Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 5:08 PM, VOSS said: This is the tweet Why are artists so lazy nowadays It's not like halsey is doing any more promo than this
More Than A Melody Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Digitalism said: This is the tweet Why are artists so lazy nowadays It's not like halsey is doing any more promo than this I think what they're saying is that they have no problem making tik toks but that the label refuses to release their music unless they have a certain amount of viral tik toks, which is basically holding their music hostage. It's not like it's that easy to fabricate viral material, the randomnest things go viral
Gabe² Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said: I think what they're saying is that they have no problem making tik toks but that the label refuses to release their music unless they have a certain amount of viral tik toks, which is basically holding their music hostage. It's not like it's that easy to fabricate viral material, the randomnest things go viral Yes, this. Halsey already changed the song to have the production more pop like they asked her to. She’s cooperating. The song is done and they even filmed the music video yet the label is holding the song hostage even after the new pop production. That is not fair to Halsey which already did her part. If she wanted her song to be on limbo she would had kept the original song. who knows how long it’s gonna take for the song to reach the amount of vitality they want? A day? A week? A month? 6months? A year?
Pokemonfan1515 Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 She sold 165 million records in just 8 years??? Ended all our faves so effortlessly and organically
Digitalism Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 12 hours ago, More Than A Melody said: I think what they're saying is that they have no problem making tik toks but that the label refuses to release their music unless they have a certain amount of viral tik toks, which is basically holding their music hostage. It's not like it's that easy to fabricate viral material, the randomnest things go viral For that i would have to believe this isn't a PR stunt. Neverthelesss not everybody is saying that. I remember dua lipa complaining that she wasted a day learning the choreo for tiktok when It's literally their job.
ontherocks Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 Oh look, whose song got a deal with a visual that was already filmed for Coca Cola, but apparently shouldn't have been released according to Ms Halsey?
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