charts discussion Chartmasters updates formula; ready to clock fake YouTube views and Chinese sales

[Protocol]

An interesting in-depth article about how they're re-calculating streaming worth to try to arrive at a number of album-equivalent units for each artist: https://chartmasters.org/2022/05/tuning-of-the-cspc-formula/

 

"Bon Appetit" and its fake YouTube views are about to get demolished  

[Mariah's Glove]

Taylor is done

[YellowRibbon]

Taylor's gonna remain unbothered since most of her streams are on-demand...

[AlexStexaul]

china sales always seemed fraud to me. 

its couldnt get more irrevelant than that counting sales from that unofficial reports. 

[TayDine1989]

Taylor is not done and will be unaffected.

[sasashite]

To fix this flaw, from now on, featured acts, combined when there are several, will be allocated 50% of singles’ formats units. The lead singer will still get 100% of the total as before.

Thus, if a song has one featured singer, he will get 50% of the singles’ formats units. If there are 4 featured acts yet, each will get a fourth of these 50%, meaning 12.5%.

 

Rihanna, Xtina, Drake and some others about to decrease quite a bit. 

As they should tbh. Featured artists getting 100% of the units is pathetic.

[MALAMENTE]

Do co-lead credits count as feats too or? 

[Taylena]

Taylor unbothered and it actually helps her numbers to increase!  OTHs lose again.  

 

 

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Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, Bad Bunny, BTS, Katy Perry, Shakira and all the other artists with big YouTube presences will gain a significant amount of CSPC. For example Taylor should go from having about 1.95m CSPC from YouTube to 3.73m (used channel views).

But a lot of artists are gonna lose a lot of CSPC due to the different weighting of features. For example Taylor Swift will be virtually unaffected bc she only has a couple of songs where she is a featured artist. An artist like Justin Bieber however, who has 13.5m CSPC from featured singles, could take a massive hit. Even if he had 50% of the credit on all of those featured tracks, he is still gonna lose 6.75m CSPC. Rappers like Travis Scott (10m featured CSPC) and Cardi B (10m featured CSPC) will probably be pretty affected. Drake and Eminem both have combined Orphan and Featured sections of 40m and 30m respectively, so they will both probably take massive cuts.

The adjustment of Chinese sales are gonna mainly help big acts in China like the local acts and big names like Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, who still sell albeit a lot less than they used too after fan purchasing.

 

[Ascareus Kratos]

Oth will lose again

[C-Amber]

They should focus on calculations the sales from all artists instead of changing rules.

 

 

old formula: CSPC unit = sales * price/50

new formula: CSPC unit = sales * price/50 * (1 + NI*0.5) where NI = 1 for non-idols, 0 for idols

Idols are to be understood as the Asian definition of it, meaning that an idol act is a kpop, cpop or jpop group formatted by major local labels. No western artist fits this definition.

 

 

 

Wtf is this???? How is this fair ?

Edited May 20, 2022 by C-Amber

[sasashite]

4 minutes ago, MALAMENTE said:

Do co-lead credits count as feats too or? 

No. Some examples:

 

Taylor Swift & Zayn - I Don't Wanna Live Forever: Taylor gets 100%, Zayn gets 100%

Lady Gaga - Telephone (feat. Beyoncé): Gaga gets 100%, Beyoncé gets 50%

Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caeser & Giveon): Justin gets 100%, Daniel gets 25%, Giveon gets 25%

[TayDine1989]

14 minutes ago, Taylena said:

Taylor unbothered and it actually helps her numbers to increase!  OTHs lose again.  

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, sasashite said:

No. Some examples:

 

Taylor Swift & Zayn - I Don't Wanna Live Forever: Taylor gets 100%, Zayn gets 100%

Lady Gaga - Telephone (feat. Beyoncé): Gaga gets 100%, Beyoncé gets 50%

Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caeser & Giveon): Justin gets 100%, Daniel gets 25%, Giveon gets 25%

Another difficult and pressing day for the Dr. Taylor Swift haters 

[Yog]

Featured acts are about to get hit hard, thankfully my faves can’t relate 

[Bosque]

 

55 minutes ago, Mariah's Glove said:

Taylor is done

It doesn't matter how they count it, Taylor dominates everything anyway 

[PopFan1996]

42 minutes ago, sasashite said:

Rihanna, Xtina, Drake and some others about to decrease quite a bit. 

Xtina? She has two big features and that's all so not a good example lol

You should've mentioned Selena Gomez in her place. A better example 


 

[PopFan1996]

Adele's catalog already increased by 3.5 million units to 97,4M with this new rule change. 

With 30's pure sales that have yet to be counted, she definitely already hit the 100M mark and she did that with only 4 albums. 

[Rev8]

Imo could've done more in the streaming department of things //ofspotify// (/sales)

 

 

[tiagol88]

Thank god my faves hits were almost all solo. Nit everyone can relate

[unclefloprry]

Poor TayTay a celebration of life 

[Dreajae]

This is silly to be honest. I'm here for the raw numbers but not these crazy conversion rates that are honestly overinflated no matter how you divide them. 

[Headlock]

20 minutes ago, unclefloprry said:

Poor TayTay a celebration of life 

You didn’t read the thread did you 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Headlock

[babyforlife]

Because only swifties who bragging about chinese sales  right? 

[Cloröx]

Not people here thinking this will badly affect Taylor when in reality she just added another 5M extra SPS 

 

And this excluding Chinese sales based on new formula which will be updated later on 

 

Heavily featured artists like Nicki, Drake, Rihanna and a lot of rappers will get significant reduction once he implemented this rules 

[WildHeart]

"The infamous case of Badshah shocked the internet back in July 2019.

His song Paagal looked like an out-of-the-blue smash, recording 75 million views during its first day, topping previous global records from the likes Taylor Swift, Blackpink, and BTS.

 

A lot of people got suspicious about it, especially when YouTube failed to communicate the breaking of the record, something they usually do.

The shock got even bigger when by the end of the week, while the video viewcount was showing over 82 million views, the song was completely absent from the YouTube’s weekly top 100 chart.

 

The controversy got so big that the police investigated the case, forcing Badshah to admit he bought 72 million clicks in order to beat the global record."

 

[Mohit]

Taylor and her 2 cent worth Chinese sales are finna gonna get busted