Luckitty Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 we all know governments won't take this seriously until it's too late just like with covid
Chemist Posted July 26, 2022 Author Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, KeirGrey said: Omg wondering who it was I'll tell you in private
BobBertran1992 Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, AlanRickman1946 said: Peter Staley, historic ACT UP activist, asks the very same thing https://twitter.com/peterstaley/status/1551562163575218176?s=20&t=X0wO3WQuhCfIw0eDi8pbYQ
Vermillion Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Chise and Owen Jones/Peter Staley are both talking past each other. Nothing Owen is suggesting is going to change anything. The data this it is mostly affecting MSM is out there and is part of a lot of current messaging. It's not a matter of many MSM not knowing but not caring. If they have a messaging plan for that I'm all ears. Which will continue until there start being widespread deaths from monkeypox like there have been some of in Africa.
Price of Fame Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Have my vaccine appointment on Thursday because it doesn't seem like this is gonna be taken seriously at all
Vermillion Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 So the U.S. decided to hold on using the 300,000 shots approved and ready to go from the plant in Denmark because they were being saved for their weaponized smallpox bioterrorism allotment. I'm sorry...but I'd qualify this as a scandal, no? Yeah....yeah. I would. Imho.
Protocol Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 I'm not surprised at all that the US government would choose to let gay men suffer while they have these vaccines sitting in a freezer while they wait for an imaginary smallpox bioterrorism attack that's never happened.
Gavin. Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Biden’s administration uniting the country in their hate for him and his/their lack of doing anything
BobBertran1992 Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Espresso said: Chise and Owen Jones/Peter Staley are both talking past each other. Nothing Owen is suggesting is going to change anything. The data this it is mostly affecting MSM is out there and is part of a lot of current messaging. It's not a matter of many MSM not knowing but not caring. If they have a messaging plan for that I'm all ears. Which will continue until there start being widespread deaths from monkeypox like there have been some of in Africa. What Owen is reacting to is people being outraged by the fact that the CDC is prioritizing MSM What people (apparent progressives) on social media, such as the one user to whom Owen is replying on the screenshot, are failing to realize is that the main problem with HIV/AIDS was that GOVERNMENTS LET LGBTQ PEOPLE GET SICK AND DIE.
Vermillion Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, BobBertran1992 said: What Owen is reacting to is people being outraged by the fact that the CDC is prioritizing MSM What people (apparent progressives) on social media, such as the one user to whom Owen is replying on the screenshot, are failing to realize is that the main problem with HIV/AIDS was that GOVERNMENTS LET LGBTQ PEOPLE GET SICK AND DIE. There's a lot to parse out here. The criticism that CDC is prioritizing MSM in vaccination right now is idiotic, given supply. But the supply issues are absolutely part of the CDC's fault, which if they cared, would be lobbying the Biden WH for different policy. Maybe they are and they're getting ignored, but that's clearly not yet been reported. The criticism that CDC is getting that they don't HAVE enough supply because of a monopoly in the United States is absolutely justified, given the one plant in the States under Jynneos is shut down which means we have to rely on just ONE plant in Denmark, AND the 300K allotment ready to go AND approved from the FDA wasn't being rush-released to the States because the administration (including the CDC) didn't care enough about just simply replenishing those shots because they don't want to go through the trouble of lobbying Congress for more funding and is willing to watch gay men suffer in the process for the excuse of keeping them for a weaponized smallpox bioterror allotment. That also gets to various criticisms about biopharma monopolies in the United States - it's a travesty of justice that we only have ONE company doing these contracts for a country of ~320 million. Now, if we want to discuss messaging, we can do that. But what I just laid out was more action based. The CDC is citing data on this being mostly MSM in messaging, unless I missed something. The problem is the glaring hypocrisy that the messaging isn't matching the action. Welcome to the U.S. government.
FreeXone Posted July 27, 2022 Posted July 27, 2022 I finally get my vaccine Tuesday!! Havent heard of too many cases here in Los Angeles. Maybe things simmered down after pride season
ClashAndBurn Posted July 27, 2022 Posted July 27, 2022 21 hours ago, Protocol said: I'm not surprised at all that the US government would choose to let gay men suffer while they have these vaccines sitting in a freezer while they wait for an imaginary smallpox bioterrorism attack that's never happened. The truth is, no matter what political party is in charge, we’re second class citizens and our humanity (deservingness of rights) is constantly up for debate. Those stockpiles are being kept for whenever there’s an outbreak that affects straight white people in comparable numbers.
Bosque Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Espresso said: And...there it is. took them long enough
Vermillion Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 Have to submit within 24hr time frame. Good luck with that Wonder how Florida's gonna bury these numbers too
FreeXone Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 Well now that all the lgbt festivals are over I wonder if the spread will significantly decrease. I was pleasently surprised san diego pride didnt see many upticks so maybe it was just a cluster thing.
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