Fevesy Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Komet blu said: Colonizer rhetoric? Wdym? Stans are one thing, but media? I think it might relate to this. I read it earlier. Referring them as "former eastern part of the country" Although further in the comments people mention that those media sites are known to say provoking stuff and clickbait. Edited May 16, 2023 by Fevesy
kimberly Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Komet blu said: Please what is this Point at an entry in the past that's similar to Cha Cha Cha. Or at something that's commonly heard on radio or charts. CCC is a bend of metal, rap, EDM and pop with two distinct halves that follow the storyline of the lyrics, I'd say that's pretty original. To say it's generic? You may not like it but generic?? I giggled at 'the only difference between Tattoo and Cha Cha Cha is that the latter is in Finnish', that's really funny ngl Cha Cha Cha sounds like a mashup of LMFAO songs from 2010-2011. 3 minutes ago, Fevesy said: Although further in the comments people mention that those media sites are known to say provoking stuff and clickbait. yes let's not treat tabloids and Perez Hilton equivalents as if they were the New York Times.
WalkAway Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Can you not?! There's nothing generic about Cha Cha Cha. From the mix of genres to the structure of the song. Tattoo is the epitome of plastic formulaic Swedish music.
Bloodflowers. Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Komet blu said: Bojan and Kaarija actually getting that baby seal Legends I want that kind of friendship with foreigners!
Atlantis Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 The way the actual people's winner is about to outstream that dated AI Spotify playlist fodder song is so funny. Not that it matters or changes anything but it's funny after all the Spotify numbers ''people's winner!1'' spamming
PopKills Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, governmenthooker96 said: I didn’t get the controversy until watching both performances again. Loreen‘s song sounds so basic and like a hundred other song. Finland was original and fun. This whole song contest can‘t be taken seriously. If Germany had sent Loreen she would have never won. Germany always ending last is also proof enough that the voting system sucks. Germany literally was 1st place in 2010 and 4th 5 years ago. It mostly is the performers I fear. Edited May 16, 2023 by PopKills
Beautiful Garbage Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, igninton said: The beat, the melody, the visuals... I mean, I'm waiting. Y'all are too brave to call Tattoo a cheap generic mess but the only difference between Tattoo and Cha Cha Cha is that the latter is in Finnish. MTE. You can literally hum to Cha Cha Cha's verses in this 2019 Rammstein song - whom Kaarija himself refers to as his biggest inspiration. Like, it's not that deep. Cha Cha Cha isn't ground-breaking material by ANY means.
anti-bitch Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Generic or not, Cha Cha Cha is a HIGH ENERGY song and performance. And overall, I like that so many of the acts were singing in their native language this year
Fevesy Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 I'd put it like this: Tattoo as a song follows a very predictable formula extremely well, whereas Cha Cha Cha on the first listen keeps you on your toes and goes completely left after the 2nd chorus. Cha Cha Cha could be compared to something like Babymetal, a bunch of K-Pop songs, or Girl's Alouds "Biology" (for a few that come to mind) where the genre changes around. I can completely understand why someone would think Cha Cha Cha is unlistenable though.
Fevesy Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 In fact, Cha Cha Cha and Unicorn are actually very similar in that regard, both chaotic and designed for the performance.
anti-bitch Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Fevesy said: I think it might relate to this. I read it earlier. Referring them as "former eastern part of the country" Although further in the comments people mention that those media sites are known to say provoking stuff and clickbait. Yeah, tabloids are the same in every country. But this is where it gets too serious, if people let their national identity depend on the results of a song contest, or sports results or whatever tournament.
WeFoundWill Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 as a kpop stan I can confirm Cha Cha Cha is INSANELY kpop coded. ESPECIALLY the rap. It‘s addicting
anti-bitch Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said: Won the whole contest yet still going on about Finland I had no idea Finland and Sweden had beef with one another until today Well the beef isn't so serious. It's mostly comes up with Eurovision and ice hockey results. And maybe a bit with the NATO process lately.
anti-bitch Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 But I hope it doesn't take another two decades almost for Finland to be in competition for winning again. There's been some bops lately from Krista Siegfrieds, Saara Aalto and Blind Channel etc. Also Erika Vikman could have done well with "Cicciolina" in 2020 if the show had happened. 1
Fevesy Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, anti-***** said: But I hope it doesn't take another two decades almost for Finland to be in competition for winning again. There's been some bops lately from Krista Siegfrieds, Saara Aalto and Blind Channel etc. Also Erika Vikman could have done well with "Cicciolina" in 2020 if the show had happened. I don't think it will. UMK has been producing higher quality songs than Melfest as of late - and with the entire Finland stanning Cha Cha Cha I can see it being taken extremely seriously. Just hope there's no Cha Cha Cha clones next year
PopKills Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, Fevesy said: I'd put it like this: Tattoo as a song follows a very predictable formula extremely well, whereas Cha Cha Cha on the first listen keeps you on your toes and goes completely left after the 2nd chorus. Cha Cha Cha could be compared to something like Babymetal, a bunch of K-Pop songs, or Girl's Alouds "Biology" (for a few that come to mind) where the genre changes around. I can completely understand why someone would think Cha Cha Cha is unlistenable though. I agree but I would’ve loved Cha Cha Cha as winner because it would’ve been as revolutionary for the hyperpop/progressive pop world as Hard Rock Halleluja was for the Rock world.
kimberly Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, anti-***** said: But I hope it doesn't take another two decades almost for Finland to be in competition for winning again. There's been some bops lately from Krista Siegfrieds, Saara Aalto and Blind Channel etc. Also Erika Vikman could have done well with "Cicciolina" in 2020 if the show had happened. yes, Kaarija did a great job and got Finland its second-ever Top 5 result since they've started competing in 1961, the first being Lordi's win in 2006. they are usually overlooked in the contest, which I think is partially why the "backlash" this year is loud. my Eurovision wishes for the next 10 or so years: - Cyprus scores first win - Iceland scores first win (2020 was really between Italy, Russia and Iceland imo) - Lithuania scores first win or first Top 3 (The Roop and two Monikas have been GREAT) - Armenia scores first win or first Top 3 - Sweden breaks the tie with Ireland with their 8th win
Hurem Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 Sweden is gonna flop with the public in years to come. If there will be a voting system change in favor of televote, Swden isn't cracking top 5 anytime soon.
ZIVERT Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hurem said: Sweden is gonna flop with the public in years to come. If there will be a voting system change in favor of televote, Swden isn't cracking top 5 anytime soon. Their Ireland era is coming
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 16, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted May 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Hurem said: Sweden is gonna flop with the public in years to come. If there will be a voting system change in favor of televote, Swden isn't cracking top 5 anytime soon. I agree, there will be a lot of casual fans upset at the result this year that’ll be less likely to vote for them. I wonder if jurors will also start to not reward them as convincingly due to the backlash as well?
Hurem Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, khalyan said: I agree, there will be a lot of casual fans upset at the result this year that’ll be less likely to vote for them. I wonder if jurors will also start to not reward them as convincingly due to the backlash as well? If juries drop them too, they can say goodbye to top 10 entries Watch them be a NQ in 2025, whew
kimberly Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hurem said: Sweden is gonna flop with the public in years to come. If there will be a voting system change in favor of televote, Swden isn't cracking top 5 anytime soon. 12 minutes ago, khalyan said: I agree, there will be a lot of casual fans upset at the result this year that’ll be less likely to vote for them. I wonder if jurors will also start to not reward them as convincingly due to the backlash as well? you wish. when they send Cornelia Jakobs again and she sweeps juries and televote
Kummercell Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, kimberly said: yes, Kaarija did a great job and got Finland its second-ever Top 5 result since they've started competing in 1961, the first being Lordi's win in 2006. they are usually overlooked in the contest, which I think is partially why the "backlash" this year is loud. my Eurovision wishes for the next 10 or so years: - Cyprus scores first win - Iceland scores first win (2020 was really between Italy, Russia and Iceland imo) - Lithuania scores first win or first Top 3 (The Roop and two Monikas have been GREAT) - Armenia scores first win or first Top 3 - Sweden breaks the tie with Ireland with their 8th win I'd like to see all that + another Balkan country winning
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