mystery Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Impact of the 2023 final on the Spotify Chart: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 #28 (+103) Queen of Kings - 2,236,355 #91 NEW Unicorn - 1,420,732 #193 RE Due Vite - 1,039,657 Impact of the 2022 final on the Spotify Chart: #38 NEW Stefania - 1,962,754 #77 NEW Space Man - 1,384,130 #85 NEW SloMo - 1,316,939 #105 RE Hold Me Closer - 1,153,782 #117 NEW Give That Wolf A Banana - 1,041,559 #122 RE Brividi - 994,895 #128 NEW De Diepte - 956,394 Impact of the 2021 final on the Spotify Chart: #9 (+146) ZITTI E BUONI - 3,902,224 #44 NEW Voilà - 1,604,147 #62 NEW Dark Side - 1,288,760 #69 NEW Shum - 1,187,927 #73 NEW Tout l'univers - 1,160,344 #87 NEW 10 Years - 1,086,420 #110 NEW El Diablo - 923,682 #125 NEW Je Me Casse - 854,971 #132 NEW Discoteque - 842,722 #153 NEW Voices - 781,736 #156 NEW Mata Hari - 771,763 Keep in mind that the #200 cutoff for each year is: 2021 - 689,037 2022 - 764,682 2023 - 1,015,388 This year is much stronger. Edited May 15, 2023 by mystery
Mark Rih Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, mystery said: Impact of the 2023 final on the Spotify Chart: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 #28 (+103) Queen of Kings - 2,236,355 #91 NEW Unicorn - 1,420,732 #193 RE Due Vite - 1,039,657 Impact of the 2022 final on the Spotify Chart: #38 NEW Stefania - 1,962,754 #77 NEW Space Man - 1,384,130 #85 NEW SloMo - 1,316,939 #105 RE Hold Me Closer - 1,153,782 #117 NEW Give That Wolf A Banana - 1,041,559 #122 RE Brividi - 994,895 #128 NEW De Diepte - 956,394 Keep in mind that the #200 cutoff for both years is: 2022 - 764,682 2023 - 1,015,388 This year is much stronger. Wow @ both Tattoo and Cha x3. It's a shame they had to go against each other on the same year don't get me wrong talent won in the end but still And also Queen of Kings
Cryptique Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, mystery said: Impact of the 2023 final on the Spotify Chart: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 #28 (+103) Queen of Kings - 2,236,355 #91 NEW Unicorn - 1,420,732 #193 RE Due Vite - 1,039,657 Impact of the 2022 final on the Spotify Chart: #38 NEW Stefania - 1,962,754 #77 NEW Space Man - 1,384,130 #85 NEW SloMo - 1,316,939 #105 RE Hold Me Closer - 1,153,782 #117 NEW Give That Wolf A Banana - 1,041,559 #122 RE Brividi - 994,895 #128 NEW De Diepte - 956,394 Keep in mind that the #200 cutoff for both years is: 2022 - 764,682 2023 - 1,015,388 This year is much stronger. i mean last year was just MEHHH
kimberly Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, mystery said: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 the people's winner
Cryptique Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 if Cha Cha Cha snatched the Eurovision Winner Headlines, it wouldve done 5M+ Spotify Streams.. but still, amazing result
byzantium Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, mystery said: Impact of the 2023 final on the Spotify Chart: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 #28 (+103) Queen of Kings - 2,236,355 #91 NEW Unicorn - 1,420,732 #193 RE Due Vite - 1,039,657 Impact of the 2022 final on the Spotify Chart: #38 NEW Stefania - 1,962,754 #77 NEW Space Man - 1,384,130 #85 NEW SloMo - 1,316,939 #105 RE Hold Me Closer - 1,153,782 #117 NEW Give That Wolf A Banana - 1,041,559 #122 RE Brividi - 994,895 #128 NEW De Diepte - 956,394 Keep in mind that the #200 cutoff for both years is: 2022 - 764,682 2023 - 1,015,388 This year is much stronger. Do you have any insight into 2021? I for some reason remember that being stronger than 2022 as well.
mystery Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, byzantium said: Do you have any insight into 2021? I for some reason remember that being stronger than 2022 as well. Added.
Fevesy Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, byzantium said: I’m confused by this. I’m not seeing a compelling need to change it from a 50-50 televote, juryvote split. To win you basically need to win over the public and the critics and that seems fair. I think it would cheapen the competition if whoever was hottest won for example. Sometimes I disagree with the Jury (giving all those points to the UK last year) but also sometimes I disagree with the public (giving all those points to Moldova last year). I think they balance each other nicely. This year, Sweden won the jury vote by a landside and the public favorite would have had to basically get the maximum points on almost every country to counteract it. Keep in mind there are 180M-200M people watching the contest, and this year they introduced voting from all around the globe. What precedent does it send that the public would have to do an almost impossible feat to counteract the opinions of 100-180 musical professionals? As I mentioned, the rest of the world was introduced this year to make other viewing countries feel welcome but the jury favorite stomped so hard that it felt in the end pretty pointless for those people to vote. That in itself looks bad on the contest especially since it was marketed that those countries can now vote in the contest. For that reason, I would bet they are at least looking at reviewing the current system. Who knows if they are actually changing it. I get that this year is a very extreme case, after reading arguments on both sides and my own experience as I mentioned in the previous post. I agree we need a jury. I'm actually of the opinion that the jury should be in the semi-finals to maintain some sort of quality going into the final as we all know what a televote only system would look like however I would always maintain that the public should have a bigger say than the musical professionals. If that's what people pick up their phones and pay money to do.
ZIVERT Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, mystery said: Impact of the 2023 final on the Spotify Chart: #5 (+41) Tattoo - 4,275,290 #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 #28 (+103) Queen of Kings - 2,236,355 #91 NEW Unicorn - 1,420,732 #193 RE Due Vite - 1,039,657 Impact of the 2022 final on the Spotify Chart: #38 NEW Stefania - 1,962,754 #77 NEW Space Man - 1,384,130 #85 NEW SloMo - 1,316,939 #105 RE Hold Me Closer - 1,153,782 #117 NEW Give That Wolf A Banana - 1,041,559 #122 RE Brividi - 994,895 #128 NEW De Diepte - 956,394 Impact of the 2021 final on the Spotify Chart: #9 (+146) ZITTI E BUONI - 3,902,224 #44 NEW Voilà - 1,604,147 #62 NEW Dark Side - 1,288,760 #69 NEW Shum - 1,187,927 #73 NEW Tout l'univers - 1,160,344 #87 NEW 10 Years - 1,086,420 #110 NEW El Diablo - 923,682 #125 NEW Je Me Casse - 854,971 #132 NEW Discoteque - 842,722 #153 NEW Voices - 781,736 #156 NEW Mata Hari - 771,763 Keep in mind that the #200 cutoff for each year is: 2021 - 689,037 2022 - 764,682 2023 - 1,015,388 This year is much stronger. A SMASH HIT!!!! Loreen is WINNING again and I love to see it she deserves it so much
Starkboy Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 Wow at both Tattoo and Cha Cha Cha Also kinda shocked Queen of Kings is doing so good Marco pulling +700k outside Italy
Gwendolyn Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 Are y’all gonna actually Spotify charts to see who deserves to win or not
Fevesy Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fevesy said: This year, Sweden won the jury vote by a landside and the public favorite would have had to basically get the maximum points on almost every country to counteract it. Keep in mind there are 180M-200M people watching the contest, and this year they introduced voting from all around the globe. What precedent does it send that the public would have to do an almost impossible feat to counteract the opinions of 100-180 musical professionals? As I mentioned, the rest of the world was introduced this year to make other viewing countries feel welcome but the jury favorite stomped so hard that it felt in the end pretty pointless for those people to vote. That in itself looks bad on the contest especially since it was marketed that those countries can now vote in the contest. For that reason, I would bet they are at least looking at reviewing the current system. Who knows if they are actually changing it. I get that this year is a very extreme case, after reading arguments on both sides and my own experience as I mentioned in the previous post. I agree we need a jury. I'm actually of the opinion that the jury should be in the semi-finals to maintain some sort of quality going into the final as we all know what a televote only system would look like however I would always maintain that the public should have a bigger say than the musical professionals. If that's what people pick up their phones and pay money to do. And yes, before anyone says it I know that Tattoo was the 2nd public favourite overall.
abelfenty Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, mystery said: #7 (+61) Cha Cha Cha - 3,819,748 A Finnish song did that
TaylenaStan Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 If anything tho the ''controversy'' around Cha Cha Cha not winning probably helped it getting more streams Alessandra Queen of Kings was the true robbery by the jury
Fevesy Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Fevesy said: Mess This is another loss for the ABBA conspiracy theorists btw
WalkAway Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fevesy said: Mess Abba hates Loreen too, confirmed.
WalkAway Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 Not people saying that Sweden and Finland are the top 2 because they are joining NATO.
Fevesy Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Btw, just to continue the conversation on the Jury/Public split since it's healthy and let people form their own opinions, either for 50/50 or not: How it would have impacted the winner in the last 14 years Increasing Televote weight Increasing Jury weight It does highlight that this year is a very extreme case. In most cases, it doesn't actually impact at all. Spoiler Closing my eyes to 2016 Edited May 15, 2023 by Fevesy
ZIVERT Posted May 15, 2023 Posted May 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, Fevesy said: Mess Instead we will get Mahmood, Måns, Dunce, and Netta to sing ABBA covers
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