event Eurovision Song Contest 2023 | Loreen does it again!

[kimberly]

2 minutes ago, Mikeymoonshine said:

Well I'm sorry the juries didn't vote in a way you liked but again that's how the system has worked for years. Those were the rules of the competition and that could have happened any of those previous years. It's not some kind of scam that most of the juries really liked Loreen's song. It just comes down to what appeals to music industry types vs what appeals to the general public. I've never liked the Jury system and I've advocated for it to be changed in the past. What I haven't done is said a winner didn't deserve to win just because I don't like the system because that would be ridiculous and childish. 

 

same people upset with this year's results were also upset and moaning last year because of Ukraine's massive televote win. some people just can't resist being Karens when things don't go their way.

[Sweetestsecret]

Just now, Kylie Jenner said:

Please enlighten me on the specifics of exactly how she cheated dear

 

The results (especially the televote numbers)  are out there .. they show the true winner 

[anti-bitch]

This was funny when the crowd started chanting Cha Cha Cha during the jury voting

 

 

[Kylie Jenner]

Just now, Sweetestsecret said:

The results (especially the televote numbers)  are out there .. they show the true winner 

Well yes yes they do!

 

[Sweetestsecret]

2 minutes ago, Kylie Jenner said:

Well yes yes they do!

 

I don't see the televote numbers in this picture.I only see the Finland winner and a scammer 

Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret

[Mikeymoonshine]

2 minutes ago, DUA LIPA said:

now when did i say loreen didn't deserve to win 

 

  

You're the one who replied to me trying to justify "what people are complaining about". I was never actually talking about you in the first place. I'm glad you agree she deserved to win though. 

[karma police]

not some of the people here trying to change the topic from rigged jury votes to misogyny and racism in a desperate attempt to silence the criticism

it's all too predictable

[Fevesy]

10 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Sweden's televote apparently ranked Spain last in the final, so maybe I shouldn't be too hard on them

Sweden we love you!!

[ZIVERT]

1. Finland - 376 points

2. Sweden - 243 points

3. Norway - 216 points

4. Ukraine - 189 points

5. Israel - 185 points

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24. GERMANY - 15 points

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BARRIER

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26. SPAIN - 5 points

[Kylie Jenner]

1 minute ago, Sweetestsecret said:

I don't see the televote numbers in this picture.I only see the Finland winner and a scammer 

You will be in my prayers tonight. Your time will come inshallah

 

[khalyan]

Just now, Mikeymoonshine said:

But why does that make a difference if the complaints are all about the system being unfair and not about fans of another entry having a tantrum? There was not nearly the amount of backlash and he gets pretty much zero hate about winning. 

Well, there were plenty of people who thought that Keiino should have won, but I think a lot of it comes from the lead up to the competition as well.  In 2019 Duncan was heavily favorited but there wasn't a challenger that the public fully supported.  Italy, Switzerland, Australia, and Sweden were all ranked in the top 5 of the odds behind Duncan, and Duncan beat them all in the televote and all but Sweden in the jury.  I don't think anyone was taking Norway or North Macedonia seriously as contenders prior to the contest.

 

This year, while Loreen was also heavily favorited to win there was a challenger that the public fully supported so the defeat feels worse.  Loreen became the first winner to not get more televotes than jury votes since Mans  

[POPTART]

Let me just say that vote of 180 people shouldn't prevail over public vote, ever.

I knew Loreen was going to win jury vote, but to be 130+ points over a second place is laughable - the song isn't that good

[chessguy99]

9 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

I think you'll find that the televote in every country ranked Spain last

 

Portugal gave them 3 points in the televote, along with 2 from The Rest of the World. Amazingly, nobody got a nul points in televote this year.

[Kylie Jenner]

Blanca paloma getting 5 (five) televote points is actually the funniest esc moment ever

 

[Komet]

4 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

This was funny when the crowd started chanting Cha Cha Cha during the jury voting

 

 

I really don't remember both the public and the audience in the arena unmistakably unite around one country only to get slapped in the face told to **** off And all because ~100 people said so

[kimberly]

4 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Loreen became the first winner to not get more televotes than jury votes since Mans  

incorrect. Salvador got more Jury votes than Televotes (albeit a very small difference).

[Sweetestsecret]

3 minutes ago, Komet blu said:

I really don't remember both the public and the audience in the arena unmistakably unite around one country only to get slapped in the face told to **** off And all because ~100 people said so

They did it again after Loreen's reprise performance.Loreen sang tattoo but people sang cha cha cha.... congratulations to them

Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret

[Komet]

2 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Well, there were plenty of people who thought that Keiino should have won, but I think a lot of it comes from the lead up to the competition as well.  In 2019 Duncan was heavily favorited but there wasn't a challenger that the public fully supported. 

It's me, I'm people. 🙋‍♂️ But Duncan's win was accepted easier not only because of the slim point difference between him and Norway, but also since jury put him at 3rd; so it's not like they handpicked the winner and the public vote still prevailed in a way.  Yesterday's events were nothing of the sort.

[Kylie Jenner]

 

Kaarija couldn't do this but Daniela ESCfan could do cha cha cha btw

[crymelanie]

the way gp said no to white twink mediocrity and yes to excellence says it all i can't bear cha cha cha even from the start of the performance

[TanjiroKamado]

I just rewatched some performances and the girl who sang Unicorn kinda slayed

 

[khalyan]

22 minutes ago, kimberly said:

incorrect. Salvador got more Jury votes than Televotes (albeit a very small difference).

7 points and he won both the jury and the tele so it really doesn’t matter there  

[POPTART]

Swedes really are ruining Eurovision, huh? (looking at you Martin)

[anti-bitch]

I can't wait for next year's ESC honestly. I love this show

[TMRA]

Loreen had a great song and an amazing performance. Honestly her performance looks like a music video. And considering she gave us "Euphoria" aka my fav eurovison winning song ever I could never be mad