event Eurovision Song Contest 2023 | Loreen does it again!

[Komet]

4 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

This was funny when the crowd started chanting Cha Cha Cha during the jury voting

 

 

I really don't remember both the public and the audience in the arena unmistakably unite around one country only to get slapped in the face told to **** off And all because ~100 people said so

[kimberly]

4 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Loreen became the first winner to not get more televotes than jury votes since Mans  

incorrect. Salvador got more Jury votes than Televotes (albeit a very small difference).

[Sweetestsecret]

3 minutes ago, Komet blu said:

I really don't remember both the public and the audience in the arena unmistakably unite around one country only to get slapped in the face told to **** off And all because ~100 people said so

They did it again after Loreen's reprise performance.Loreen sang tattoo but people sang cha cha cha.... congratulations to them

Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret

[Komet]

2 minutes ago, khalyan said:

Well, there were plenty of people who thought that Keiino should have won, but I think a lot of it comes from the lead up to the competition as well.  In 2019 Duncan was heavily favorited but there wasn't a challenger that the public fully supported. 

It's me, I'm people. 🙋‍♂️ But Duncan's win was accepted easier not only because of the slim point difference between him and Norway, but also since jury put him at 3rd; so it's not like they handpicked the winner and the public vote still prevailed in a way.  Yesterday's events were nothing of the sort.

[Kylie Jenner]

 

Kaarija couldn't do this but Daniela ESCfan could do cha cha cha btw

[crymelanie]

the way gp said no to white twink mediocrity and yes to excellence says it all i can't bear cha cha cha even from the start of the performance

[TanjiroKamado]

I just rewatched some performances and the girl who sang Unicorn kinda slayed

 

[khalyan]

22 minutes ago, kimberly said:

incorrect. Salvador got more Jury votes than Televotes (albeit a very small difference).

7 points and he won both the jury and the tele so it really doesn’t matter there  

[POPTART]

Swedes really are ruining Eurovision, huh? (looking at you Martin)

[anti-bitch]

I can't wait for next year's ESC honestly. I love this show

[TMRA]

Loreen had a great song and an amazing performance. Honestly her performance looks like a music video. And considering she gave us "Euphoria" aka my fav eurovison winning song ever I could never be mad

[Sazare]

Tattoo is so mid  Cha Cha Cha robbed.

[DUA LIPA]

the juries did sLOVEnia so wrong, glad to know the televote showed some taste instead  

[Abracadabra]

Not people demanding the rules are changed next year for juries just because they didn't like the outcome this year and their fave lost

 

It's serving Trump election deniers

[POPTART]

7 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Not people demanding the rules are changed next year for juries just because they didn't like the outcome this year and their fave lost

 

It's serving Trump election deniers

180 people cannot have more power than thousands of people voting. Finland couldn't have reached Sweden's points even when getting 87% of televote. And not to mention that Sweden didn't win any country's televote.

I don't think they should remove jury vote but it shouldn't be 50-50. Especially considering there's only 5 people in each jury with very questionable backgrounds (some of them at least).

Scandinavian bloc is also too powerful with jury points exchange.

It doesn't take an expert to see the system is flawed.

[Abracadabra]

1 minute ago, POPTART said:

180 people cannot have more power than thousands of people voting. Finland couldn't have reached Sweden's points even when getting 87% of televote. And not to mention that Sweden didn't win any country's televote.

I don't think they should remove jury vote but it shouldn't be 50-50. Especially considering there's only 5 people in each jury with very questionable backgrounds (some of them at least).

Scandinavian bloc is also too powerful with jury points exchange.

It doesn't take an expert to see the system is flawed.

So you're doing exactly what I said... saying the rules should be changed because you didn't like the outcome. Everybody knew the rules going into it and how it works. These accusations of it being rigged or that Loreen somehow cheated are literally clown behaviour, and sounds like they have come directly from the Trump supporter book of election deniers  You can't just say, okay we all knew the rules but next year they should be changed because my fave didn't win and I object  There's also zero chance that any of these angry Käärijä stans would be saying that Loreen was robbed and it was unfair if he had won in the same way Loreen did and she had came runner-up. At the end of the day, there's always some people fuming at the outcome when it doesn't go the way they wanted. Last year people were complaining the televote had too much power because of Ukraine, now it's not enough

 

 

[abelfenty]

8 minutes ago, POPTART said:

180 people cannot have more power than thousands of people voting. Finland couldn't have reached Sweden's points even when getting 87% of televote. And not to mention that Sweden didn't win any country's televote.

I don't think they should remove jury vote but it shouldn't be 50-50. Especially considering there's only 5 people in each jury with very questionable backgrounds (some of them at least).

Scandinavian bloc is also too powerful with jury points exchange.

It doesn't take an expert to see the system is flawed.

Can we stop trying to use this as a valid argument because it’s totally discrediting the fact that Loreen finished 2nd in the televote with 240+ points 

[ZIVERT]

3 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

Can we stop trying to use this as a valid argument because it’s totally discrediting the fact that Loreen finished 2nd in the televote with 240+ points 

People are acting like Loreen received 5 points from the televote, like  

[Abracadabra]

3 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

Can we stop trying to use this as a valid argument because it’s totally discrediting the fact that Loreen finished 2nd in the televote with 240+ points 

Right?  They are acting like she came 10th in the televote or something

[bjorn]

6 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

Can we stop trying to use this as a valid argument because it’s totally discrediting the fact that Loreen finished 2nd in the televote with 240+ points 

Period. 

[POPTART]

But the issue isn't the televote 

I've got nothing against Loreen herself. 

The fact is, she won because of the jury and the gap she made was huge to follow up even with 87% of televote. 

 

I'm more then sure they'll be changing things up. 

 

 

[Abracadabra]

1 hour ago, anti-***** said:

Yeah, Pop Idol in the UK. Simon Cowell literally started all these talent shows.

Simon Fuller created Pop Idol, not Simon Cowell.

[khalyan]

Just realized Loreen, Moldova 2022, and Russia 2019 all got practically the same amount of televotes  

[motherpills]

38 minutes ago, abelfenty said:

Can we stop trying to use this as a valid argument because it’s totally discrediting the fact that Loreen finished 2nd in the televote with 240+ points 

exactly

 

[motherpills]

1 hour ago, TanjiroKamado said:

I just rewatched some performances and the girl who sang Unicorn kinda slayed

 

but we support palestine