mellenthin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, alstrom said: I get why people are upset, but Sweden won by the rules set by the competition? Like if you don't approve by the rules, don't participate and use your money if you're not gonna accept the winner who is crowned based on the rules set for the competition. It's so sad to see all these people bashing Loreen, just because their favourite didn't win. Really disappointed in the humanity of people.
mystery Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Jury vote winners: 2009 - Norway - WINNER 2010 - Germany - WINNER 2011 - Italy - 2nd place 2012 - Sweden - WINNER 2013 - Denmark - WINNER 2014 - Austria - WINNER 2015 - Sweden - WINNER 2016 - Australia - 2nd place 2017 - Portugal - WINNER 2018 - Austria - 3rd place 2019 - North Macedonia - 7th place 2020 - 2021 - Switzerland - 3rd place 2022 - United Kingdom - 2nd place 2023 - Sweden - WINNER
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Benjamin said: This "Sweden came second in the vote!" argument is really bad when you think of the voting system. For all we know Finland got 98% of the total public vote, Sweden 1% and the rest shared 1%. Very unlikely, obviously, but it doesn't matter how big a landslide someone gets in the public vote, they can only get 2 extra points than the 2nd place. So, yeah, Sweden came 2nd, but how far behind was that 2nd place? Maybe that's why there's so many angry people, huh? Anyway, we all know Austria, France and Norway are the real top 3 and everyone needs to get some taste. ??? didn't they reveal the number of points yesterday?
mystery Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) When Televote winner didn't win: 2015 - Italy - 3rd place 2016 - Russia - 3rd place 2019 - Norway - 6th place 2023 - Finland - 2nd place When Jury winner didn't win: 2011 - Italy - 2nd place 2016 - Australia - 2nd place 2018 - Austria - 3rd place 2019 - North Macedonia - 7th place 2021 - Switzerland - 3rd place 2022 - United Kingdom - 2nd place Edited May 14, 2023 by mystery
DUA LIPA Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Paola Bracho said: It's not that Tattoo was the absolute masterpiece but everything else was a wreck that made Tattoo shine even more. She simply left no other option to the juries. there were other options the juries just always pander back to radio fudder scandi pop the most unrealistic part about the jury ranking is the huge gap between sweden and the rest. Edited May 14, 2023 by DUA LIPA
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Benjamin said: This "Sweden came second in the vote!" argument is really bad when you think of the voting system. For all we know Finland got 98% of the total public vote, Sweden 1% and the rest shared 1%. Very unlikely, obviously, but it doesn't matter how big a landslide someone gets in the public vote, they can only get 2 extra points than the 2nd place. So, yeah, Sweden came 2nd, but how far behind was that 2nd place? Maybe that's why there's so many angry people, huh? Anyway, we all know Austria, France and Norway are the real top 3 and everyone needs to get some taste. the countries didn't give sweden 12 points on televote. Sweden didn't have 12 points..but it's the winner cause of the scam jury.. yeah that sucks. Finland is the true winner
mellenthin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Sweetestsecret said: the countries didn't give sweden 12 points on televote. Sweden didn't have 12 points..but it's the winner cause of the scam jury.. yeah that sucks. Finland is the true winner Go cringe yourself to sleep
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Sweetestsecret said: the countries didn't give sweden 12 points on televote. Sweden didn't have 12 points..but it's the winner cause of the scam jury.. yeah that sucks. Finland is the true winner you sound like a Trump supporter in 2020.
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, mellenthin said: Go cringe yourself to sleep I slept when Loreen performed...it was boring
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Starkboy said: you sound like a Trump supporter in 2020. Go enjoy your fake victory..Kaarija was the true winner of the night Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
Paola Bracho Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, qee said: We = The ESC bubble But seriously, I get your point. I just don't agree with it. Tattoo has 60 mill spotify streams already. Too much for being an ESC bubble favorite. 1 minute ago, DUA LIPA said: there were other options the juries just always pander back to radio fudder scandi pop No. Sorry. It was one of those years that the jury vote was totally expected. Tattoo + Loreen made the perfect combination.
Starkboy Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Spotify #46 (+23) Loreen - Tattoo | 2,132,054 (+359k) #68 (+83) Kaarija - Cha Cha Cha | 1,765,031 (+453k) #131 (NE) Alessandra - Queen of Kings | 1,351,047 Not Kaarija coming to snatch ffjjfj
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, prézli said: Loreen got ZERO 12 points from the televote. People from home had better taste than the juries
abelfenty Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 We have to LAUGH at sPAIN finishing LAST in the televote I love seeing Spanish Eurofans being humbled
bluceleste Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Overall, I’m pleased with the results. My favorite song won and my 2nd favorite was the runner up. It was great seeing how well received Italy’s song was by the public since many in the fandom had written it off. The biggest shocks were Austria’s lack of support from the public and Slovenia’s overall poor score (the song is great and they had amazing stage presence wtf) Lol @ The Finnish tactical voting. It’s not at all fishy that Tattoo, which has been a streaming hit in Finland for weeks, ends up not receiving a single point from the public. You never win when you play dirty. #Karma. I’m baffled as to why some are surprised by Spain’s poor audience points when not even Spaniards are interested in listening to the song (see Spotify streams) Graham and Hannah were great together. Alesha was good, too, but I prefer a comedic host. 1 Sweden 2 Finland 3 Lithuania 4 Slovenia 5 Italy 6 Cyprus 7 Ukraine 8 Czech Republic 9 Austria 10 Israel
mellenthin Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, bluceleste said: Lol @ The Finnish tactical voting. It’s not at all fishy that Tattoo, which has been a streaming hit in Finland for weeks, ends up not receiving a single point from the public. You never win when you play dirty. #Karma. This.
Paola Bracho Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Let's see how the pUbLIc vOtE will be translated in streams. I expect it to annihilate the jury vote!
TaylenaStan Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Starkboy said: Spotify #46 (+23) Loreen - Tattoo | 2,132,054 (+359k) #68 (+83) Kaarija - Cha Cha Cha | 1,765,031 (+453k) #131 (NE) Alessandra - Queen of Kings | 1,351,047 Not Kaarija coming to snatch ffjjfj Alessandra Scandinavia dominating Edited May 14, 2023 by TaylenaStan
DUA LIPA Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, bluceleste said: Overall, I’m pleased with the results. My favorite song won and my 2nd favorite was the runner up. It was great seeing how well received Italy’s song was by the public since many in the fandom had written it off. The biggest shocks were Austria’s lack of support from the public and Slovenia’s overall poor score (the song is great and they had amazing stage presence wtf) austria and slovenia did well in the semi, austria was obv done dirty by the running order and i guess europe showed its slavophobia once again last night italy slaying as usual as the fans are seething, we love to see it.
the good guy_duh Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Something tells me that this will be Sweden's last victory for a looong time The public is clearly fed up with scandi-pop, zero 12 points clearly shows that even with a song and performance like Tattoo
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 28 minutes ago, little legend said: So embarrassing for Sweden Half of Europe crowning FINLAND as the WINNER and NONE for SWEDEN No wonder a lot of people are MAD
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