BOOM! Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Sweetestsecret said: 100 points is huge difference.. and you said that Ukraine televoting results last year was fake..Make it make sense. Anyway congratulations for loreen, we all know kaarija will stay more remembered and iconic though the years . Finland couldn't afford Eurovision so the jury voted for Loreen..https://www.esc-plus.com/eurovision-2023-in-case-finland-wins-chances-are-very-unlikely-that-helsinki-will-host-the-competition/
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Komet blu said: If Ukraine won last via insanely high jury votes while televote chose someone else, then yeah people would be mad. But it's the public that gave them the win, so whete are the doiblr standards? People chose the winner themselves last year, something they eere roobbed of this year The PAYING public, I would add. Juries are paid to be there on the other hand. That adds insult to the injury!
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mellark said: It's not going to make a difference because they will stay mad anyway when their fave doesn't win. It's going to make a huge difference.. people will choose the artist who deserves to win.like Kaarija deserved to win this year
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Overall, Good ESC Year 2021 ESC remains GOAT tho.. that year i stanned ITALY, UKRAINE, ICELAND, LITHUANIA, SWITZERLAND, MALTA NOW, i fvckin need ASIAVISION
Solaria Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 GOOD morning, it feels amazing waking up knowing Godreen won TWICE and beat that ogre and all the incels are STILL crying about it. AHH, my ******* fave.
Solaria Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 51 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: I feel like they'll get rid of the juries completely next year, Loreen is getting a shitstorm for this and it isn't even her fault They’ll never get rid of the juries in the year SVT is hosting and considering Sweden holds a lot of power at the EBU I don’t think it’ll ever happen
Kavish Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 I'm not mad that Sweden won, but Finland would have been a more interesting winner. Tattoo is very safe and predictable. I hope France manages to win in my lifetime.
Blade Runner Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: Everyone was thinking that jury result was rigged. Loreen winning the juries makes sense, but with 2x the points of the runner-up? The only thing they can do to make up for it is either make juries 25% of the vote next year or get rid of them all together. Loreen doesn't deserve this hate, it isn't her fault, but this situation isn't doing her any favors. I mean, Finland was the unanimous public's winner This feels like another reality fueled by a couple a tweets witk 2K likes, probably. Her song is doing better on Spotify than any other and she is a legend that got thousands of public votes. Don't let angry teenage girls make you feel like there's a REAL backlash lol.
Solaria Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Besides, televote only finale was the system we had in the 2000s and thats when all the Western racist countries complained that Eastern Europe and Greece were sweeping away with the points every year. Ain’t no way thats gonna happen again
the д Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 if only they were this mad when norway stormed the televote in 2019 and got paid absolute DUST by the juries
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Love Again said: They’ll never get rid of the juries in the year SVT is hosting and considering Sweden holds a lot of power at the EBU I don’t think it’ll ever happen Hello? The very fact that they have so much power and they won in this way is the exact reason why they're getting rid of them, to save face, at least for a few years. Also Martin Osterdahl said in an interview last year that he wanted to remove them from the final already, but ultimately didn't
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, Blade Runner said: This feels like another reality fueled by a couple a tweets witk 2K likes, probably. Her song is doing better on Spotify than any other and she is a legend that got thousands of public votes. Don't let angry teenage girls make you feel like there's a REAL backlash lol. The generic song in English with massive playlisting getting marginally more streams than some song in Finnish? The shitstorm is actually in the real world, because you know, actual people voted. Not just aging gays.
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 they won’t get rid of juries, televote-only era was a horrible time for eurovision where it lost a lot of credibility. juries help balance out the drunks and tone deaf people voting at home to pick a good song and performance. that helps keep up eurovision’s brand.
Sweetestsecret Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) First step was to remove jury votes from semi finals.. now they will remove them for the final show as well Edited May 14, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, the д said: if only they were this mad when norway stormed the televote in 2019 and got paid absolute DUST by the juries Norway was 30 points ahead of the runner up, not 133 + winning in 18 countries sis
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, kimberly said: they won’t get rid of juries, televote-only era was a horrible time for eurovision where it lost a lot of credibility. juries help balance out the drunks and tone deaf people voting at home to pick a good song and performance. that helps keep up eurovision’s brand. That was 15 years ago. Times are now different, people see Eurovision as something to reliably build their career around.
Blade Runner Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, KillingYourCareer said: The generic song in English with massive playlisting getting marginally more streams than some song in Finnish? The shitstorm is actually in the real world, because you know, actual people voted. Not just aging gays. And they voted for Loreen too, so... That "backlash" is not a real thing and you can easily tell where all the noise is coming from.
the д Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Just now, KillingYourCareer said: Norway was 30 points ahead of the runner up, not 133 + winning in 18 countries sis but they were 18th with the jury when they won the televote, whereas finland managed to get 4th which is actually really impressive for that performance
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, KillingYourCareer said: That was 15 years ago. Times are now different, people see Eurovision as something to reliably build their career around. yes and that perception is a result of jury intervention. do you think eurovision would have that reputation if Moldova won last year or Russian grannies won in 2012?
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 Time to add some Kaarija songs to my Spotify Library
Komet Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: The generic song in English with massive playlisting getting marginally more streams than some song in Finnish? The shitstorm is actually in the real world, because you know, actual people voted. Not just aging gays. Not to mention the massive push by the label Besides, why tf does it matter? Why are we even holding the contest then, just check who hss the most streams at the beginning of May and hand them trophy Edited May 14, 2023 by Komet blu
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 all the moaning and whining about juries will die down in a day or two… it’s only a chronically online minority of eurovision viewers that are acting deranged about it. there’s no “backlash” from anyone else.
Cryptique Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 The fact that SWEDEN didnt win any single country televotes tho No wonder people are MAD MAD
KillingYourCareer Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Blade Runner said: And they voted for Loreen too, so... That "backlash" is not a real thing and you can easily tell where all the noise is coming from. Bffr. She's 133 points behind the televote winner with no win in any countries. There's a reason people are mad. Aging gays on this website who are craving to see an older female being successful won't acknowledge this, this forum lives in a bubble after all, but this is hurting Loreen more than it's helping her.
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